Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Lulldapull]

The point is if that approach is tenable or not, if you look outside it's 2024, a globalised interconnected world where Ukrainians were training Syrian rebels

Ultimately if china wants to remain undisturbed then it needs to shape events around it to keep the heat off it

Every nation that's a player or pretender is doing this... Russia, USA, turkey, Britain, France etc they are doing something
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China I don't think can stay indifferent to everyone falling to the opposing camp, I don't see that as being ok for them

China doesn't wanna be involved bhai. They're peaceful people and want no part of any of this junkyard ME.

The other issue is their weapons don't cut the mustard.

Everybody knows Chinese military capability.

Its even less than Iran's to be honest......lol

Kuchh ne kar sakta China except make gadgets and trinkets. Koi ne khareedta Chinese hathyaar.......

 

[Davey Crockett]

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[EugeneP]

Where do you think is of more global importance and consequence?

Middle east or Myanmar?

In one week Russia has lost its prestige in the region and ten years of investment

If china and Russia have a limitless partners they logically are hurt by this too

For China, Myanmar is definitely of greater importance than far off Middle East. They have no love or hate for either side of the conflict. They can always get oil at market price from anybody. If an unfriendly or unstable state develops in Myanmar, it is literally a major pain in the butt for China. Imagine an Afghanistan for Pakistan. They already have North Korea for their pet mad dog.

 

[_Arabia_]

This is a chat forum of very varying and diverse inputs

Lets not focus on being from x or y on a chat forum

I agree but I could not ignore the comment given the irony. Point remains the same though. Iranians are as much foreign to Syria and the Arab world (and in many cases as unwanted) as say the likes of the US/Russia and other outsiders. Certainly when Iranian regime meddling in the Arab world has amounted to nothing positive and only occurs in war-torn areas of the Arab world where (surprise, surprise) there are some Shia Arab minorities.

They (Iranian regime) are obviously trying to expand their influence using Palestine, Islam etc. as slogans to fool the stupid among those mentioned groups, which is why it is equally laughable when the same Iranians are accusing Turkey of "imperialism" in Northern Syria, as if Iranians are handing out flowers in Northern Yemen, Iraq, Syria (until they were thrown out) and Southern Lebanon and if those proxies of theirs (all Shia Arab terrorist groups ironically) somehow are not used as tissue paper and for expanding Iranian influences. See their recent betrayal of Hezbollah, their supposed closest "ally".

It is comedic.

The same guy also uses the same pro-Iranian regime 3-4 Twitter users (Lebanese Shia Arabs) who use the same disproven talking points 24/7.

What a shame that we have no Syrians around, they would have a field day with such propaganda attempts from the usual suspects here.

 

[MMM-E]

These weapons should not fall into the hands of the PKK-YPG terrorist groups.

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[MNZGamerX]

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[_Arabia_]

Also imagine criticizing the crimes of Zionists (totally understandable and something most sane people across the world should be doing regardless of their religion, political views or origins) but remaining silent or even outright supporting the equal crimes of the Al-Assad regime while simultaneously pretending to be some Islamic "standard-bearers" or using Islam for their own nationalistic/imperialistic regional goals.

Or calling the Syrian opposition for terrorists while the likes of Iraqi Shia militias, Houthis, Hezbollah etc. are apparently peaceful pacifist that have never even hurt a fly.

All while MOST PALESTINIANS, HAMAS INCLUDED and other armed Palestinian factions, all are congratulating Syrians.

I guess they are so caught up in their own regime's propaganda and alternative reality, that they were thinking that fellow Arabs would somehow not be supporting the liberation of neighboring and suffering Arabs from a bloodthirsty and incompetent regime.

But those are the same people that believe that most Arabs are pro-Israel and anti-Palestine. So why even bother with such cases?

 

[_Arabia_]

@MMM-E

Why is Turkey not invading the YPG/PKK occupied areas of Syria next door across the border (in particular the Arab and Turkmen-inhabited ones)? What is stoping Turkey? You are the only country directly bordering those regions.

From what I can see those so-called "Kurdish groups", most of the territory they control is not Kurdish-inhabited at all. Join up with HTS, SNA, local Arab tribes in Eastern and Northern Syria and clean up this mess once and for all.

This would prevent any Israeli attempts (which are obvious) of creating some new fake entity in northern Syria.

Unlike the Syrians in Southern Syria, you actually have the ability to stop this project. The longer you wait, the harder it will be to stop it.

Consider it as a friendly advice because unlike many users here, I see Turkey as an obvious partner and friend for Syria and Arabs and I don't buy for 1 second that Turkey has any intention or wish to annex any Syrian land.

 

[StrategicBear]

Israel wasn't going to fall from the war with Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran as long as the US was providing it with unlimited support. Israel will fall when America is gone. America will go away when one of the following happens:

1) Nuclear exchange with Russia.
2) Economic collapse and/or civil war.
3) Natural disaster.

If anyone thought that Iran and Hezbollah were going to finish off Israel then that was a delusion peddled by various analysts, whose aim maybe was to increase their YouTube viewership. I watched these analysts say that Hezbollah was going to finish off Israel by itself and Iran wouldn't need to intervene. We saw what happened. Israel was turning Lebanon into Gaza and there was nothing Hezbollah could do about it.

Like I said, it will take an act of God to bring the US to justice. After that, Israel's life expectancy will be measured in hours, not days.

Yellowstone Supervolcano Eruption...

 

[The SC]

Urgent: A strongly worded Saudi statement against the assault on Syrian territory by the Israeli occupation government:

Statement text:
The attacks carried out by the Israeli occupation government by seizing the buffer zone in the Golan Heights, and the Israeli occupation forces’ targeting of Syrian lands, confirm Israel’s continued violation of the rules of international law, and its intention to sabotage Syria’s chances of regaining its security, stability, and territorial integrity.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia stresses the need for the international community to condemn these Israeli violations, and to emphasize respect for Syria’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,
The Golan is occupied Syrian Arab territory

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[Khansaheeb]

Either Erdogan and his advisers are strategic geniuses or it is going to get really messy in the region. The new leader of Syria has said he intends to liberate Jerusalem. Turkey promised and Turkey has delivered. Israel is rushing to take advantage of the situation and has committed de facto land grabbing. War with Syria is now inevitable. Pakistan , Turkey , Iran should flood weapons in to stabilize the situation else Israel may have the upper hand. Sunni countries should rally behind Syria and rally behind it with weapons and resources. Inshallah this is the start of liberation of Al-Aqsa.

 

[Khansaheeb]

China doesn't wanna be involved bhai. They're peaceful people and want no part of any of this junkyard ME.

The other issue is their weapons don't cut the mustard.

Everybody knows Chinese military capability.

Its even less than Iran's to be honest......lol

Kuchh ne kar sakta China except make gadgets and trinkets. Koi ne khareedta Chinese hathyaar.......

India found out the reality when Pakistan beat their arse with Chinese weapons in the air and on the ground. We have seen the outcomes in Afghanistan and Iraq so let's murk reality. Most of Iranian weapons' giving Israel body blows are Chinese.

 

[EugeneP]

The new leader of Syria has said he intends to liberate Jerusalem.

That was not a wise statement from a 1-day old leader of a dirt pile of a nation. Can you criticize what Israel is doing now?

 

[_Arabia_]

Urgent: A strongly worded Saudi statement against the assault on Syrian territory by the Israeli occupation government:

Statement text:
The attacks carried out by the Israeli occupation government by seizing the buffer zone in the Golan Heights, and the Israeli occupation forces’ targeting of Syrian lands, confirm Israel’s continued violation of the rules of international law, and its intention to sabotage Syria’s chances of regaining its security, stability, and territorial integrity.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia stresses the need for the international community to condemn these Israeli violations, and to emphasize respect for Syria’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,
The Golan is occupied Syrian Arab territory

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This is all fine and nobody doubts that KSA supports Arab unity and that it is in the best interests of KSA and every strong/non-war torn Arab nation to do the same, but speeches and statements alone won't change much if anything. What we need is a joint Arab action in every war-torn Arab country to prevent hostile outside meddling. This is long overdue.

Unless the current leaderships are some kind of trojan horses who are enabling all this to occur or if all this nonsense is part of some wider plan that we the regular people are not a party to? Whatever it is, it is high time to act. All the resources, manpower, money, motivations are there.

The likes of Morocco, UAE and Bahrain should throw that Abraham Accord into the dustbin immediately. Israel has been acting like a rapid dog for 14 months now. Even worse than usual.

Egypt and Jordan (neighboring countries) should also throw those peace treaties in the dustbin. Clearly they are good for nothing.

Israel is nothing without the US/WEST that created it. Do something drastic. Attract potential Russian/Chinese military bases, allow them to station nuclear weapons aimed at Israel or West/Europe.

The current Muslim tactics in almost every Muslim hotpot from Kashmir to Myanmar to the Middle East are good for nothing it seems.

 

[hyperman]

@MMM-E

Why is Turkey not invading the YPG/PKK occupied areas of Syria next door across the border (in particular the Arab and Turkmen-inhabited ones)? What is stoping Turkey? You are the only country directly bordering those regions.

From what I can see those so-called "Kurdish groups", most of the territory they control is not Kurdish-inhabited at all. Join up with HTS, SNA, local Arab tribes in Eastern and Northern Syria and clean up this mess once and for all.

This would prevent any Israeli attempts (which are obvious) of creating some new fake entity in northern Syria.

Unlike the Syrians in Southern Syria, you actually have the ability to stop this project. The longer you wait, the harder it will be to stop it.

Consider it as a friendly advice because unlike many users here, I see Turkey as an obvious partner and friend for Syria and Arabs and I don't buy for 1 second that Turkey has any intention or wish to annex any Syrian land.

Its goign to happen brother. Turkey just helped the SNA take back Manbij, it happened today.

Trust me It will happen, there is no way a PKK state will be allowed to exist on Turkey's southern border.

Sabr ya akhi. Turks have waited 5 years since the Turkish Operation to liberate Tell Abyad in 2019, after which the PKK made a deal to bring Russian troops to the border to stop any Turkish intervention.

Manbij was officially declared fully secured just 4 hrs ago.

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