Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[MMM-E]

Why is Turkey not invading the YPG/PKK occupied areas of Syria next door across the border (in particular the Arab and Turkmen-inhabited ones)? What is stoping Turkey? You are the only country directly bordering those regions.

Turkiye with Syrian National Army cleaned Syrian cities Jarablus , Azaz , Dabiq , Rai , Al Bab from ISIS Terrorists and Afrin , Rasulayn , Tel Abyad , Tel Rıfat , Manbij from PKK-YPG Terrorists

the next target is Ayn al Arab

USA blocking Turkiye to liberate Raqqa and Kamishli from PKK-YPG Terrorists who control oil reserves

sooner or later all Syrian cities will be cleaned from PKK-YPG Terrorists

 

[Takayoshi]

With the Assad government replaced, Iran's logistical route to Hezbollah is crippled.

What does the future hold for the Axis of Resistance groups after overthrowing of Assad?

 

[Khansaheeb]

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[_Arabia_]

Its goign to happen brother. Turkey just helped the SNA take back Manbij, it happened today.

Trust me It will happen, there is no way a PKK state will be allowed to exist on Turkey's southern border.

Sabr ya akhi. Turks have waited 5 years since the Turkish Operation to liberate Tell Abyad in 2019, after which the PKK made a deal to bring Russian troops to the border to stop any Turkish intervention.

I am just getting incredibly disillusioned with the current condition of the Muslim world and our inability to solve our own issues and put our own house in order.

Look at this map below:



Literally 85-90% of the yellow (SDF-controlled) area of Syria is not inhabited by Kurds, yet outsiders call it "Kurdish"? If this is not a US/Western/Israeli plan of creating a fake entity and balkanize Syria, I don't know what it is.



Even in the small Kurdish-majority areas of Northern Syria, there is a large Arab, Assyrian and Turkmen minority.

 

[MMM-E]

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia stresses the need for the international community to condemn these Israeli violations, and to emphasize respect for Syria’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,
The Golan is occupied Syrian Arab territory

If S.Arabia is serious then Arab League should send peace keeping Forces to protect Syrian's territorial integrity

Turkiye is ready to work with S.Arabia to do it
Israel can not fight against the Arab League+Turkiye

 

[Khansaheeb]

With the Assad government replaced, Iran's logistical route to Hezbollah is crippled.

What does the future hold for the Axis of Resistance groups after overthrowing of Assad?

Syria's war is not with Iran but the enemy neighbor next door which is illegally occupying its land and that of the Palestinian people.

 

[_Arabia_]

If S.Arabia is serious then Arab League should send peace keeping Forces to protect Syrian's territorial integrity

Turkiye is ready to work with S.Arabia to do it

Should have been done already in 2011 but unfortunately there are 20 + Arab nations and 20 + Arab regimes all with different policies, priorities, rivalries etc. Many Arab regimes are more busy protecting their thrones and internal stability even at the expense of external instability in other Arab regions.

Would have been fairly easy (in theory) to send 100.000 Egyptian, 100.000 Saudi Arabian, 100.000 Iraqi, 100.000 Jordanian etc. soldiers and 50.000 Lebanese soldiers to pacify Syria and prevent it from falling apart.

Yes, a few thousand would have died, yes, some Syrians would be crying about Arabs " occupying" them but it is much better than letting Russians and Americans into Syria. Nor would we be barrel bombing them or mass-murdering them for no reason.

Anyway ultimately the fault lies with the incompetent Al-Assad regime, he is the one that destroyed Syria, invited unwanted foreigners (Russian and Iranians) and later help the rise of ISIS which forced the US to meddle and establish a presence. Then YPG/PKK terrorist Kurds using the protection of the US to further destabilize Turkey and Syria and Iraq.

I am more than ever convinced that only joint Arab and Turkish cooperation in the region can prevent further mess from occurring. At least in Syria and Iraq.

 

[EugeneP]

I am just getting incredibly disillusioned with the current condition of the Muslim world and our inability to solve our own issues and put our own house in order.

Look at this map below:

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Literally 85-90% of the yellow (SDF-controlled) area of Syria is not inhabited by Kurds, yet outsiders call it "Kurdish"? If this is not a US/Western/Israeli plan of creating a fake entity and balkanize Syria, I don't know what it is.

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Even in the small Kurdish-majority areas of Northern Syria, there is a large Arab, Assyrian and Turkmen minority.

But how is inexact labelling of a region balkanization? Should people of U.K. get upset if people call that country Britain (or even England)? I have seen it happen all the time. We used to call USSR as Russia in the olden days.

 

[hyperman]

Turkiye with Syrian National Army cleaned Syrian cities Jarablus , Azaz , Dabiq , Rai , Al Bab from ISIS Terrorists and Afrin , Rasulayn , Tel Abyad , Tel Rıfat , Manbij from PKK-YPG Terrorists

the next target is Ayn al Arab

USA blocking Turkiye to liberate Raqqa and Kamishli from PKK-YPG Terrorists who control oil reserves

sooner or later all Syrian cities will be cleaned from PKK-YPG Terrorists

When Ayn al Arab falls, the PKK will be in terminal collapse. b/c thats the only significant Kurdish area outside of Hasakah left.

When there is an operation launched in Ain Al Arab, presumably the PKK will divert forces to try to defend it and prioritize it more than Arab areas. This will trigger a possible collapse in Raqqa and with its the entire front, after which they will be left with Hasakah and Deir Ez Zor and at that point, its going to be largely over, as Deir Ez Zor is all arabs and Southern Hasakak is also Arab.

The only wild card is the US and any attempts to preempt this. But Biden has a weak hand right now, with only a few weeks in Office and a guy coming in who has said he wants to stay out of the Syria matter. So its a big commitment to make for Biden to do something where there isn't surety that trump will stay the course. Of course what Trump says and what actually happens once the deep state does its damage control and walks back Trump words and actions is a different matter. But the PKK partnership with the removal of the Iran corridor as well as Daesh being gone as well as Turkey's importance growing for the US with regards to Russia in Ukraine and the Black Sea region as well as a emergent Iran, changes who they want to piss off in a delicate scenario. The Israelis might try lobbying Trump but they can't make a play unilaterally to have any significant effect to prevent a Turkish operation.

 

[Lulldapull]

India found out the reality when Pakistan beat their arse with Chinese weapons in the air and on the ground. We have seen the outcomes in Afghanistan and Iraq so let's murk reality. Most of Iranian weapons' giving Israel body blows are Chinese.

Any proof of your claims sir G?

 

[StrategicBear]

As an example, take Myanmar. It has been a mess for about 50 years and neglected by everybody. But it is not broken beyond any hope like Afghanistan or Haiti. Now, being a neighbor, would it not be in China's interest to make a workable country of Myanmar, like Thailand or Vietnam? But I don't see any happenings.

You mean this one?

Myanmar's civil war threatens key China trade route

The BBC visits the border with Myanmar, where a war is raging on China’s doorstep.

www.bbc.com

China doesn't seem to want to militarily intervene in Myanmar...

They know the Civil War there is not their fight... their precious soldier's lives is better off spent in Taiwan, SCS or Korea?

 

[_Arabia_]

But how is inexact labelling of a region balkanization? Should people of U.K. get upset if people call that country Britain (or even England)? I have seen it happen all the time. We used to call USSR as Russia in the olden days.

It matters because you are basically distorting reality, demographics, history etc. to further your geopolitical projects and forcing them onto people that want nothing to do with it.

The US foreign policies are self-serving and have little to nothing to do with what they preach (democracy, representation etc.) but at least be honest.

Kurds deserve political representation and even autonomy in Syria, if Syrians want that (this is their prerogative) but portraying land of which 90% is non-Kurdish as Kurdish is terrorism. Supporting PKK/YPG Is terrorism. Supporting displacement of local Arabs, Assyrians and Turkmens is terrorism.

All while doing all this hiding behind the usual "we Kurds have no state, master USA, please give us one against the evil Arabs, Turks and Iranians". You are not given any states in the real world. You fight for it and it is hardly the problem of non-Kurds that you have amounted to very little historically and never had any Kurdish state of note in history.

Let alone giving you a right to do what you are doing to non-Kurds.

Clearly this has to change.

 

[Xerxes22]

Thats your Iran and ASSAD who jumping from Russian lap to Yankee lap
Iran and ASSAD asked helping from USA and Israel when Russia left them alone

Here is the logic ppl, I rest my case. Mentally demented intellectual community of the terrorists that are on the ground. So this is their collective intellectual property. Check the last two lines of his argument.

 

[Lulldapull]

This is all fine and nobody doubts that KSA supports Arab unity and that it is in the best interests of KSA and every strong/non-war torn Arab nation to do the same, but speeches and statements alone won't change much if anything. What we need is a joint Arab action in every war-torn Arab country to prevent hostile outside meddling. This is long overdue.

Unless the current leaderships are some kind of trojan horses who are enabling all this to occur or if all this nonsense is part of some wider plan that we the regular people are not a party to? Whatever it is, it is high time to act. All the resources, manpower, money, motivations are there.

The likes of Morocco, UAE and Bahrain should throw that Abraham Accord into the dustbin immediately. Israel has been acting like a rapid dog for 14 months now. Even worse than usual.

Egypt and Jordan (neighboring countries) should also throw those peace treaties in the dustbin. Clearly they are good for nothing.

Israel is nothing without the US/WEST that created it. Do something drastic. Attract potential Russian/Chinese military bases, allow them to station nuclear weapons aimed at Israel or West/Europe.

The current Muslim tactics in almost every Muslim hotpot from Kashmir to Myanmar to the Middle East are good for nothing it seems.

lol.....oh bhai, you'd be thrown in da dustbin if you opened your fun-hole in front of these Zionists......

They own you! What part of that is difficult to understand? All your money in BOA and now hendu runnin your economies.

Stop joking........you crack us all up here.

 

[Xerxes22]

You have done more harm to Muslims than Israel.
We destroyed you first so that Israel would be next.

So the people funded and operated by the Americans are gonna "defeat", "destroy" "decimate" "demolish" the Israeli enemy. The logic guys...mental perversion