EugeneP
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May be Assad's anti-Israel street cred was perceived to be of higher level than others. So, based on that totem, he wins.
Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation
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clutch
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battalion25
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The Rebes achieved what Assad couldn´t achieve in 13 years.
I believe that is why Blinken was also in Turkey
I believe that is why Blinken was also in Turkey
That_Guy
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It's pretty clear now what happened.
Assad was abandoned.
With Russia distracted by Ukraine, and Iran trying to manage its proxy war with Israel, Assad was not a priority.
Hezbullah, while having its military capability mostly intact, and its entire leadership reconstituted, did not want to get involved again in Syria. It would have been a political disaster as Lebanese people were in no mood to give further benefit of the doubt to Hezbullah.
Plus, with all the leaks and reports coming out, it seemed like Assad was not only deeply disliked, but was actively selling out Hezbullah, and Iran to Israeli intelligence, and Russia to US intelligence.
Basically, Assad played himself. He grew too confident, and tried to play all sides against each other. He underestimated his usefulness to everyone involved.
So he everyone abandoned him.
Assad was abandoned.
With Russia distracted by Ukraine, and Iran trying to manage its proxy war with Israel, Assad was not a priority.
Hezbullah, while having its military capability mostly intact, and its entire leadership reconstituted, did not want to get involved again in Syria. It would have been a political disaster as Lebanese people were in no mood to give further benefit of the doubt to Hezbullah.
Plus, with all the leaks and reports coming out, it seemed like Assad was not only deeply disliked, but was actively selling out Hezbullah, and Iran to Israeli intelligence, and Russia to US intelligence.
Basically, Assad played himself. He grew too confident, and tried to play all sides against each other. He underestimated his usefulness to everyone involved.
So he everyone abandoned him.
Soldier35
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Syrian journalists have taken a panoramic video of the Russian Khmeimim airbase in Syria using a drone. As can be seen from the video, the aircraft are in hangars, but there are no protective nets on the hangars from drones. It is worth noting that there are presumably no anti-drone units at the base, since the drone is freely filming. Currently, the airbase is home to Russian Su-34NVO, Su-24M bombers and Su-35S fighters. Also visible in the frame are two Il-76 military transport aircraft of Russia and one Il-76 of the Syrian Air Force. According to Bloomberg, Russia is close to reaching an agreement with the new Syrian leadership on maintaining two military bases in Syria. If the agreement is concluded, the Port of Tartus and the Khmeimim airbase will remain in Syria.
Snake
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Supporting the Indian claim on Kashmir and supporting Palestine right to statehood are contradictory. Pakistan's official stance is right to self determination for Kashmir which is what they want for Palestine. You can't pick and choose in these matters so f*ck Assad for supporting Indian claim.
Believe it or not the largest military occupation in the world is not Gaza or West Bank but Kashmir. I think it still has about 700,000 soldiers - 1/3 the entire population of Gaza!
That_Guy
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I'll believe it when I see it.
There is very little reason for both sides to trust each other, as they're ideologically on opposite ends.
There is nothing substantial to believe that the Kurds won't just declare independence if push comes to shove.
mulj
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that is dissonance and not productive, some level of consistency has to be maintained if you want to be taken seriously in political sphere.
EyelessInGaza
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Even if everything you said is true, I want to know why the regime fell in 12 freaking days.
A massive win, with barely any casualties to speak of. On either side.
Whole cities given up without a fight.
I can only arrive at the following possible conclusions, some combination thereof:
- the SAA was absolutely useless
- The generals and/ or Assad did their own deals with the enemy
- Iran and Russia ran out of stamina/ patience/ finances/ willpower/ manpower to support Assad
- The rebels were very well prepared, and supported. Plus their military strategy was excellently planned and executed
But nothing by itself would be reason for SAA folding like a cheap suit.
I note that Assad’s behaviour was extraordinary. First thing a ruler does is to come on TV at a time like this. To show strength, reassure supporters. This man though was mostly missing from the public eye, from the outset.
I think this performance will be studied more in the future.
battalion25
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The Kurds don´t have the means or logistics to fight the rebels it would be over in 2 days. The US can´t hold their hands and trump wants to pull out of there entirely
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battalion25
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The Iraqis did cross over the border in large numbers and so did Hezbollah but there was just no way they could stand against such a storm from the north. HTS 120.000 and SNA 100.000 armed to the teeth that is in total 220.000 forces armed to the teeth.
They had jammers, drones, night visions, everything and they fought in a way the SAA didn´t use to which is softening their positions first with drones and even the Russians said they haven´t seen drones used that effectively.
The only place they stood there ground and fight was in Hama and after that it was over they knew it was over because they saw what they ran into and all these who fled Hama never wanted to fight the rebels again. They saw the perfect unstoppable storm in Hama
mulj
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Primary goal of new Syria is kicking out americans from north east all others issues have to wait before that. that will require lot of wisdom and support for them and people should show some patience to the ongoing provocation from merely real political perspective that is priority above all current ones. for that they need russia.
Lulldapull
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Wtf you mumbling man? Zia ul Huq killed 20k Al-Balastinians in 1977 no for an uprising in Jordan?
Wtf kind of official policy will Pakistani's have on Syria or Palestine?
Are you joking?
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