Bangladesh Air Force

[AbuShalehRumi]

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Forceful retirement for six Air Force officers. If anyone finds the reason please share or I’ll go through the list of officers involved in hasina’s escape to see if they were involved.

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[Afif]

Why I don't get mention notifications?

There must have an intelligence cover up!

 

[AbuShalehRumi]

There must have an intelligence cover up!

RAW is after me?

 

[Afif]

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1:34 to 1:36.

Air training and doctrine command is good news.

MRCA is also good news.

Attack helicopter is the worse news. Spending $300-350 millions on 8 attack helicopters when we lack Sufficient MLRS and logn range missiles regiments, and sizable fleet of uavs, EW capabilities. It's like choosing luxury item over essentials.

$350 millions can easily gets us another Tiger MLRS regiment, a Tyfun or Pakistani fattah-2 missile Regiment, hundreds of logn range small uavs like Orlan-30 or Shark. Several EW units.

Or we can spend that money on much needed air defense. Even leaving the army aside, Air Force itself n procure a logn range high altitude air and missile defense system like HQ-9BE or SIPER. Which should be by any mean our first priority.

As I said, there is absolutely zero coordination, and priority management. We never going to become a modernised force with such institutional weakness.

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[Michael Corleone]

Attack helicopter is the worse news. Spending $300-350 millions on 8 attack helicopters when we lack Sufficient MLRS and logn range missiles regiments, and sizable fleet of uavs, EW capabilities. It's like choosing luxury item over essentials.

what can't they let this role be taken over by army and focus purely on air defence part of the equation

hope this plan is not another "replace the 8 migs with 8 jets for the next 30 years" plan

spent good amount of money on the broadcast equipment and team though

 

[Arthur]

what can't they let this role be taken over by army and focus purely on air defence part of the equation

hope this plan is not another "replace the 8 migs with 8 jets for the next 30 years" plan

spent good amount of money on the broadcast equipment and team though

That's exactly what it is going to turn to.

 

[Afif]

That's exactly what it is going to turn to.

Probably not.

 

[Strider]

Attack helicopter is the worse news. Spending $300-350 millions on 8 attack helicopters

That amount sounds a bit much for 8 attack helicopters. While they can swoop in on ground targets quickly and efficiently, operating them without achieving complete air superiority in the airspace is not feasible.

As I said, there is absolutely zero coordination, and priority management. We never going to become a modernised force with such institutional weakness.

This happens in nearly every institution in Bangladesh, both private and public. Absolutely no alignment whatsoever and often wrong placement. This is our weakness in general.

hope this plan is not another "replace the 8 migs with 8 jets for the next 30 years" plan

The MiGs still have life in them. So I don't think they would be replaced anytime soon.

 

[Afif]

That amount sounds a bit much for 8 attack helicopters.

That is actually a conservative estimate.

 

[Arthur]

Probably not.

Hope so

This happens in nearly every institution in Bangladesh, both private and public. Absolutely no alignment whatsoever and often wrong placement. This is our weakness in general

Lazy bums in the bureaucracy likes the perks not the work.

The MiGs still have life in them. So I don't think they would be replaced anytime soon.

They have a history of doing that. Remember the time they retired the A-5, later trying to sell them off?

 

[shakib787898]

Hope so


Lazy bums in the bureaucracy likes the perks not the work.

They have a history of doing that. Remember the time they retired the A-5, later trying to sell them off?

I still don't understand why did BD retired the A-5, Myanmar are still using them if they had them they would not have needed the attack helicopterat these time .. Any chace of restoring them they are still in storage I think.

 

[Strider]

That is actually a conservative estimate.

In that case, attack helicopters should be the last in the basket list.

Lazy bums in the bureaucracy likes the perks not the work.

It is not that they are lazy. They work hard. The issue is the lack of synchronization. Even foreign institutions in Bangladesh have this problem.

This lack of synchronization is more of an issue of underlying culture and attitude. Though I expect this to improve as soon as the new and upcoming workforce (Gen Z) take up roles in the future. The boomers were just terrible in this regard despite their hard work.

They have a history of doing that. Remember the time they retired the A-5, later trying to sell them off?

I do not recall that they were trying to sell them off. I don't think anyone would buy them since these are very old (i.e., 1980s).

I still don't understand why did BD retired the A-5, Myanmar are still using them if they had them they would not have needed the attack helicopterat these time .. Any chace of restoring them they are still in storage I think.

I can guess it was because they were very old. Generally as an aircraft ages, the more costly it becomes to operate. Overhauling them may not have been feasible.

I guess Myanmar still uses them because of a number of ongoing conflicts, limited financial resources and few options to procure more advanced aircraft. China, Pakistan and we retired them long back.

This decision to procure attack helicopters is not congruent with BD's strategic needs IMO.

 

[UKBengali]

This decision to procure attack helicopters is not congruent with BD's strategic needs IMO.

In order:

1. Nationwide MRSAM network

2. Suicide and surveillance drones.

3. 2-3 squadrons of 5th generation fighters

 

[LeonBlack08]

Interesting video making a case for Attack Helo

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[Michael Corleone]

The MiGs still have life in them. So I don't think they would be replaced anytime soon.

Base generation of MiG 29s have a service life of 2500 hours which is enough for 20 years of service life. I remember reading East German pilots thoughts on MiG 29 on an aviation magazine… the life extension kits can do a maximum of 4700 hours although Russians offer 6000 hours rating on the SMT. the Belarusian life extension kits rate the aircraft for 4000 hours max.

If we have flown those aircraft’s adequately then they’re really at the tail end of the service life. 5-10 years give or take.

I still don't understand why did BD retired the A-5, Myanmar are still using them if they had them they would not have needed the attack helicopterat these time .. Any chace of restoring them they are still in storage I think.

Usually it comes down to maintenance cost per flight hour flown. That thing is fully analog… heck F7MB/ BG shouldn’t be flown at the moment just based on how outdated they’re.