Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[_Arabia_]

As they cheered on a "bunch" of ex Al-Qaeda beheaders who rolled into their villages, towns and cities.

What more evidence do you need bro?

Interesting the druze of SW Syria now want to be part of the Zionist entity as they are afraid of the HTS, as they fear for their safety and liberty from the new "government" in Damascus.

False nonsense already denied by Druze religious leadership. Also you clearly have no clue about the Syrian conflict as the Druze mostly stood with the opposition as seen last week.

No Druze have been attacked. No Christians either. No amount of propaganda is going to change this.

Even pro-Assad regime users have been reporting the reality on the ground.

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More ground reality and not fairytales:

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Falling right into the trap of believing Israeli news and Iranian regime propaganda.

Druze in Syria want to join Israel (false and denied by Druze leadership within Syria, religious as well) = Israeli regime propaganda, Syrians = AQ/ISIS = Iranian regime propaganda. End of story. You to no surprise at all are repeating both nonsense talking points.

EDIT: Wait a second, I even found pro-Assad regime Syrians agreeing with me for once.

Here you go.

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These people don't understand zionist psyops.

The Israelis can't even get the majority of Druze in the Golan Heights to take Israeli citizenship, but somehow think the Druze in Suweida are going to turn. lol

The Israelis want you to think everyone hates sunni arabs and would rather work with them than the Largest Bloc, who they have lived alongside for centuries.

Its textbook divide and conquer.

If you ask me, they are both two sides of the same coin in regards to their propaganda efforts. There is legitimate reasons for concern about how Syria will evolve as there are many challenges ahead but silly, idiotic and outright false (something they seem to specialize both in) are tiring. We had shrines destroyed, churches destroyed, minorities mass-killed etc. nonsense already.

In a few days they will invent some fairytale about Syrians joining hands with the IDF in Gaza. I would not put it past them. They are shameless, if their support for the Al-Assad regime was not already bad in itself.

 

[Sharma Ji]

They are shameless, if their support for the Al-Assad regime was not already bad in itself.

You that Saif Al Arab, Al Hasani guy from the old place ?

 

[Foinikas]

As they cheered on a "bunch" of ex Al-Qaeda beheaders who rolled into their villages, towns and cities.

What more evidence do you need bro?

Interesting the druze of SW Syria now want to be part of the Zionist entity as they are afraid of the HTS, as they fear for their safety and liberty from the new "government" in Damascus.

The Druze in south Lebanon were traditionally allies of the Israelis,so I guess there's some relation there. But really,it's frustrating to see all these people here cheering for radical fanatic gangs,at least a lot of people in Syria are afraid of them and were fed up with a government that was ineffective the last many years. Imagine,armed men appear in your city and tell you the government(that had been malfunctioning)has fallen. What do you do? You go like "eeh ok" and stay inside or "hooray hooray" outside.

 

[UKBengali]

The Druze in south Lebanon were traditionally allies of the Israelis,so I guess there's some relation there. But really,it's frustrating to see all these people here cheering for radical fanatic gangs,at least a lot of people in Syria are afraid of them and were fed up with a government that was ineffective the last many years. Imagine,armed men appear in your city and tell you the government(that had been malfunctioning)has fallen. What do you do? You go like "eeh ok" and stay inside or "hooray hooray" outside.

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You are confusing Palestinian Druze with Syrian Druze. Even now most Syrian Druze in Golan have refused Zionist entity citizenship.

Very bad times are here for Syria.

They will have a puppet rump "government" that will implement some kind of Sharia law on them.

So much for tolerance and respecting the diverse nature of the Syrian population.

 

[Foinikas]

Very bad times are here for Syria.

They will have a puppet rump "government" that will implement some kind of Sharia law on them.

So much for tolerance and respecting the diverse nature of the Syrian population.

All these centuries of tradition...Christian,Muslim Shia and Alawite. What will happen to these communities after 2-3 years when everybody focuses on Ukraine again? I'm sure Qatar and Saudi Arabia will rush to spend billions on the new government and rebuilding. After all,they "bought" this victory.

 

[UKBengali]

All these centuries of tradition...Christian,Muslim Shia and Alawite. What will happen to these communities after 2-3 years when everybody focuses on Ukraine again? I'm sure Qatar and Saudi Arabia will rush to spend billions on the new government and rebuilding. After all,they "bought" this victory.

Unless there is a "deal' to turn Syria into another Jordan, then no rebuilding and economic recovery will be "allowed" by Zio-US.

That looks impossible as Syria cannot have a puppet toy king like Jordan put in and even if this did happen Syria could turn at any time in the future with a revolution.

Syria will be kept split into multiple factions and kept in a state of chaos on purpose. Basic economic activities will be allowed for subsistence levels of economic production.

At least some Turkish posters were honest as they said they just want to weaken PKK but they do not understand that their master(Zio-US) has other plans for the Kurds which will be harmful to Turkish interests.

Syria is probably finished now as a unified country for years and maybe decades to come.

 

[Strider]

Something that most reasonable people would agree is credible evidence.

Even those that wanted Assad to stay.

Turks are just trying to distract from their own complicity in the agenda of Zio-US by blaming everyone bar themselves - Assad, Iran and Syria.

I know I am going to wait forever for anything concrete but maybe I may be surprised.

If you are looking for something 'concrete' in sensitive matters, you won't find many. That said, you can dig into old Israeli archives and see what they had to say regarding Assad.

Early in 2012, the year after the outbreak of the civil war in Syria, the Foreign Ministry drafted recommendations on Israel's position regarding Syrian President Bashar Assad.

As Haaretz reported at the time, the ministry said Israel should denounce the slaughter in Syria and call for Assad’s ouster. It argued that Israel shouldn’t be the only Western country not to condemn Assad, since that would feed conspiracy theories that Israel preferred the mass murderer to remain in power.

The Israeli foreign minister at the time, Avigdor Lieberman, accepted this recommendation, but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu opposed it. Netanyahu denounced the slaughter and the Syrian army and charged that “various leaders have no moral qualms about killing their neighbors and their own people as well.” But he never mentioned Assad as the person responsible or demanded his ouster. Israel’s UN ambassador during that period, Ron Prosor, said Assad has “no moral right to lead his people,” but that was it.

These diplomatic acrobatics and the Lieberman-Netanyahu dispute only fed the conspiracy theories, and Syrian rebel leaders were convinced that Israel wanted Assad to remain in power. They were right.

Now that Assad has regained control of most of Syria and is waging a final battle against rebels in the south, Israel is acting as if it is now reformulating its policy and becoming “reconciled” to Assad’s continued rule. Several weeks ago, Israel reportedly told Russia it wouldn’t oppose that, as if the decision were in its hands or as if Israel even had any leverage over what kind of government is in power in Syria after the war ends.

But Israel isn’t merely “reconciled” to rule by Assad. It also feared the prospect that the various rebel militias might succeed in ousting him, sparking a new civil war among the rebels themselves.

Position papers drafted by the Israeli army and the Foreign Ministry over the past two years didn’t actually voice support for the Syrian president, but their assessments show that they viewed his continued rule as preferable or even vital for Israel’s security. Israel's close cooperation with Russia, which gave Israeli forces a free hand to attack Hezbollah and Iranian targets in Syria, added the Israelis to the unofficial coalition of Arab states that support Assad’s continued rule.

Russia's military intervention in Syria, which began in 2015, was initially viewed by Israel as ineffective and doomed to fail. But in reality, it bolstered Assad’s status domestically, created a coalition with Iran and Turkey and neutralized the intervention of Arab states such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. And since the United States had withdrawn from the arena even before that, Israel ostensibly had to make do with the lesser evil.

Therefore if Israel’s goal is to oust Iran from Syria, Russia — rather than the United States or the Arab states — is the only power capable of limiting Iran’s operations there and perhaps even getting it to leave.


Assad is deeply dependent on Russia, even more than on Iran. And that’s convenient for Israel, because it means Syria’s foreign policy, including its future policy toward Israel, will be vetted by the Kremlin, thereby at least ensuring coordination with Israel and a reduction in the threat from Syria. In exchange, Israel has committed not to undermine Assad’s rule.

Moreover, Israel has insisted that the 1974 Separation of Forces Agreement that followed the Yom Kippur War remains in effect, meaning Israel won’t accept Syrian forces in parts of the Golan Heights demilitarized under that agreement. Officially, UN observers oversee the agreement’s implementation. But in practice, it was the Assad regime that ensured that Syria upheld the agreement and that kept the border quiet for decades. Israel, which has a low opinion of UN observers, also used its military deterrence to persuade Assad that upholding the agreement served his interests.

Source: https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...els-ally/0000017f-db2c-d3a5-af7f-fbaee1870000

 

[Foinikas]

Syria is probably finished now as a unified country for years and maybe decades to come.

Yeah,Netanyahu isn't going to give up the land that he grabbed and Syrians will be lucky if he doesn't grab more. Erdogan might leave or keep a small part of the country as an outpost or just demand bases which the new regime will probably not refuse. And like you said,the Americans have plans for the Kurds. It would be crazy for them not to protect them and use them as a stable ally inside Syria,bordering Iraq.

 

[UKBengali]

Yeah,Netanyahu isn't going to give up the land that he grabbed and Syrians will be lucky if he doesn't grab more. Erdogan might leave or keep a small part of the country as an outpost or just demand bases which the new regime will probably not refuse. And like you said,the Americans have plans for the Kurds. It would be crazy for them not to protect them and use them as a stable ally inside Syria,bordering Iraq.

Kurds are the perfect ally for Zio-US.

1. They can split Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran up by forming a contiguous nation.

2. Plenty of oil wealth and so they won't be an economic drain on Zio-US.

3. They would be eternally grateful to Zio-US for helping them gain their own country.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Energy wars, happy ISIS'ing now, Syria.

Zionists won, the US won.. Greater Israel already in progress.

Absolutely astounding dumbassery around these parts. Little wonder the region looks like it does... shame.

 

[UKBengali]

Energy wars, happy ISIS'ing now, Syria.

Zionists won, the US won.. Greater Israel already in progress.

Absolutely astounding dumbassery around these parts. Little wonder the region looks like it does... shame.

This is the first post of yours that I gave the "love" rating to as you are absolutely right there.

Now you may understand why the ME is dominated and controlled by Zio-US as the people don't know who their enemies are when even the deaf, blind and dumb would have figured it out decades ago.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Seems more like Iran and the Assadists crying together. lol Syrians are happy, not crying.

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They were happy in Libya too when Gadaffi was overthrown. They are not happy now, as they have it better before. Lets hope and pray things dont descend into Libya. There is no succesfull template of success with the type of people that HTS are .....

 

[hyperman]

They were happy in Libya too when Gadaffi was overthrown. They are not happy now, as they have it better before. Lets hope and pray things dont descend into Libya. There is no succesfull template of success with the type of people that HTS are .....

For the Record I didn't support the Libya invasion, but Hassan Nasrallah of the Pround Anti Zionist "Axis of Resistance" did.

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I know people like a simplistic black and white Geopolitical outlook but reality is more complicated that and with nuance.

The Issue with Libya is the Warlord Khalifa hafter and a proxy war between the UAE/Sisi on one side and the UN recognized govt backed by Turkey.

Libya is 99% Sunni and overwhelmingly Arab. it would have reconstituted, if not for the Emiratis.

Same issue in Sudan btw, Same issue in Somalia.

Emiratis. and their Paranoia about Popularly elected leadership in the Arab world, as a potential threat to their own thrones.

 

[MINUTEMAN]

TODAYS muslims are an evil mixture of opportunists and egoists. Hafiz esed and his miserable son bashar the syrian butcher will forever burn in hell together with mao tse tung, mussolini, stalin the japanese emperor and adolf.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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And? Who is he? Why is this significant.