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IRGC releases drone footage of (now destroyed) Jaish Al-Adl terrorist HQ inside Pakistan

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So Iran has been flying drones deep inside Pakistan for a while without Pakistan saying anything (or knowing about it?)...

 

[Tehrani021]

Shoot down any invading plane/drone that enters your territory without permission is the basics of sovereignty

IRGC started that already

These red lines are extremely flexible. When US or Israel bombs Iran I will not be surprised if Islamic Republic says the attacks did nothing to justify lack of serious response.

So you're saying Iran started it, and you're on record saying that it was a stupid thing to do. So what would you say to the Iranian families that have had their children blown to bits and will continue to be blown to bits, who accuse you of inaction and biorzegi?

 

[Tehrani021]

IRGC releases drone footage of (now destroyed) Jaish Al-Adl terrorist HQ inside Pakistan

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So Iran has been flying drones deep inside Pakistan for a while without Pakistan saying anything (or knowing about it?)...

Theyre operating like that in clear daylight and somehow Pakistan with its superior military can't see this and is too stretched to do anything about. Mage ma kharim?

 

[lightning f57]

What should IRGC have done? Re-retaliate? Shut down their drones/fighters? This is straight nagging without saying what could have been done

This would be advocating for the most useless and ridiculous escalation/war in Iran history that all our enemies wants and dreams of

No, F-22s and F-35s will not start to flow 1000km inside Iran because Pakistan did a COIN operation 50km from the borders in a area without any law and already corrupted that isn't defended, instead of waging war by implying that their fighters and drones should have been shot down and potentially killing them, Iran would risk a re-retaliation and a war that none can afford and would make our enemies attack us, this is the best scenario for Zionists and USA, money should be invested to put law in this place

It also showed to Israel and USA that there are no shelters for terrorists specially for Baku, don't compare USA and Israel from the point of view of our national security with Pakistan, Pakistan is not a threat or an existential threat to Iran, this is completely different but you seem to have been touched by this COIN operation, they didn't targeted military infrastructure or government bodies, they just did the same IRGC did, the difference being IRGC struck 100km inside and killed 2 children, and Pakistan struck 50km inside and killed 11 children/civilians (also we will never know how much of these terrorists have been killed), if this was done by the US it would be way more harmful if Iran didn't do anything.

US and Israel are the red lines in term of crossing airspace.

I agree with the fact Pak attacking alleged terror bases in Iran is completely different to the US or Israel or any other country in the region attacking Iran. Firstly Pak never targeted Iranian military, the US and Israel would. Secondly both countries have had cordial relations for many years, this is prob lowest point but I am sure both sides feel after some time things will go back to normal and they will move on from this.

I would also expect bulk of Iranian forces to be westwards and pointing towards the Persian gulf. One can not really ascertain much strategically speaking from the strikes on both sides of the border.

But serious questions need to be asked on both sides. Why did Iran not try to coordinate the attack or pressure the pak government from other means. Why has the pak government and military just woken up to these terror bases, why are both sides doing little to stop militants and troublemakers operate from impunity on their territory. All these and more need to be answered to avoid similar situations.

 

[tsunset]

I agree with the fact Pak attacking alleged terror bases in Iran is completely different to the US or Israel or any other country in the region attacking Iran. Firstly Pak never targeted Iranian military, the US and Israel would. Secondly both countries have had cordial relations for many years, this is prob lowest point but I am sure both sides feel after some time things will go back to normal and they will move on from this.

I would also expect bulk of Iranian forces to be westwards and pointing towards the Persian gulf. One can not really ascertain much strategically speaking from the strikes on both sides of the border.

But serious questions need to be asked on both sides. Why did Iran not try to coordinate the attack or pressure the pak government from other means. Why has the pak government and military just woken up to these terror bases, why are both sides doing little to stop militants and troublemakers operate from impunity on their territory. All these and more need to be answered to avoid similar situations.

Claims that it was not enough are not only against Iran, but Pakistan, as treating Pakistan like they are our historical enemies or subhumans when Pakistan did nothing to Iran before this, meanwhile the US and Israel are threatening Iran of war at a monthly basis and imposed sanctions killing thousands and gave WMDs to Saddam to use on Iranians and attacked Iran navy, shot down an Iranian airliner over false claims

We are in good terms with Pakistan, neighbor and brother people. The (white) people coming from the other side of the planet and killing people everywhere and being proud of it are not our brothers/neighbors, there is no tolerating of these people and their actions

The red line IS US/Israel/West just crossing into Iran airspace to throw bombs, they know it very well and the COIN operation will not change anything, Iran has lobbed BMs and drones 100km into Pak, Pak did the same and no Iranian was even killed but refugees affiliated with terrorists. This doesn't have to trigger Iran to fire "100K missiles" into random places in Pakistan this is just that some users are sensible to this and thinks it is all over for Iran, they fell into the same trap with Afghanistan and this brought all kinds of opportunists such as Indians that only care about Pakistan being harmed

By the way i swear i would cut my **** off and delete my account if US/Israel/Turkey/whatever does any unilateral airstrikes inside Iran, whether against "Kurdish terrorists" or whatever they would claim, without any response from Iran, anyone can save this message

And to the emotive people, don't fall into their trap by focusing on Pakistan, this is exactly what they want, all eyes on Iran and Pakistan, look at MSM, it feels like what's going in Gaza doesn't exist anymore when watching them

 

[WatchtowerWarrior4Ever]

Weve been knocking that door for years and Pakistan keeps dragging its feet and more Iranians are getting blown up. Maybe next when this happens we can give you a week to sort it out or we will attack the positions like before. Rigi got captured after Pakistan denied he existed and kept stalling to hand him over.

Since the moderator has kept banning me to post on this thread for whatever reasons in his mind, i m unable to reply you guys in time. Perhaps u need to know that this particular route is a heaven for international smugglers. These smugglers have frequent clashes from the security officials on both sides. You can keep blaming Pakistan with utter lack of objectivity but the fact of the matter is....this smuggling route has remained beneficial for local populations only on both sides of the border.

Iran attacked inside Pakistan when Indian FM was present in Tehran....even if we ignore this angle, what baffles me that your IRGC opted this action despite the fact that your Iranian delegation was present in Pakistan, Governor of Sindh Province was on official tour of Chabahar, and Pakistan and Iranian navies were having naval exercises. So many channels were available and your establishment opted to have missile attacks inside a sovereign neighbor as if it's kind of festival going on?

Even Iraq has filed a complaint at the United Nations Security Council and the United Nations, on Tuesday, January 16, 2024, over the Iranian missile aggression that targeted the city of Erbil and led to innocent civilian casualties, injury to others, and damages to public and private properties.

Perhaps you guys need to know, that no sovereign country can tolerate such behavior. If Iranians opt to escalate further from here, they will directly fall into this massive trap by which Pakistan will have full support of it's Western allies while Iranians will suffer only further. Hope better sense shall prevail in Tehran. I am not going post here because moderators have issues from my posts.​

Other than your nukes there isn't anything that is of concern for Iran.

Maybe Qahar 313 can take out our entire squadrons of Vipers, Jf 17s, J-10s, Mirages or entire Awacs fleet with just one click. I agree totally.

 

[Tehrani021]

Since the moderator has kept banning me to post on this thread for whatever reasons in his mind, i m unable to reply you guys in time. Perhaps u need to know that this particular route is a heaven for international smugglers. These smugglers have frequent clashes from the security officials on both sides. You can keep blaming Pakistan with utter lack of objectivity but the fact of the matter is....this smuggling route has remained beneficial for local populations only on both sides of the border.

Iran attacked inside Pakistan when Indian FM was present in Tehran....even if we ignore this angle, what baffles me that your IRGC opted this action despite the fact that your Iranian delegation was present in Pakistan, Governor of Sindh Province was on official tour of Chabahar, and Pakistan and Iranian navies were having naval exercises. So many channels were available and your establishment opted to have missile attacks inside a sovereign neighbor as if it's kind of festival going on?

Even Iraq has filed a complaint at the United Nations Security Council and the United Nations, on Tuesday, January 16, 2024, over the Iranian missile aggression that targeted the city of Erbil and led to innocent civilian casualties, injury to others, and damages to public and private properties.

Perhaps you guys need to know, that no sovereign country can tolerate such behavior. If Iranians opt to escalate further from here, they will directly fall into this massive trap by which Pakistan will have full support of it's Western allies while Iranians will suffer only further. Hope better sense shall prevail in Tehran. I am not going post here because moderators have issues from my posts.​

Maybe Qahar 313 can take out our entire squadrons of Vipers, Jf 17s, J-10s, Mirages or entire Awacs fleet with just one click. I agree totally.

Oh so just because there is criminal activity then neither side should do anything about it and accept it as a norm? Whats Iranian blood worth when the criminals profit from stolen oil, right?!

The timing is odd I agree which is why I think there may have been cooperation. I cant even argue with that. But the need to act had more justification. Those channels have been exhausted for years and fallen on deaf ears!

Iraq can do whatever it wants, the UN is useless and Iran is not bound by anything it passes or does. Iraq knows it is hosting Israeli mossad and will not get much sympathy from any of Iran's allies. Many countries have violated sovereignty in the fight against terror, it is the norm and Iran has the clout to do it.

Iran can take out all of Pakistans airports and nuclear sites if Pakistan had done anything stupid last night which is why it didn't touch IRGC, who were the ones who fired the BMs.

 

[lightning f57]

Claims that it was not enough are not only against Iran, but Pakistan, as treating Pakistan like they are our historical enemies or subhumans when Pakistan did nothing to Iran before this, meanwhile the US and Israel are threatening Iran of war at a monthly basis and imposed sanctions killing thousands and gave WMDs to Saddam to use on Iranians and attacked Iran navy, shot down an Iranian airliner over false claims

We are in good terms with Pakistan, neighbor and brother people. The (white) people coming from the other side of the planet and killing people everywhere and being proud of it are not our brothers/neighbors, there is no tolerating of these people and their actions

The red line IS US/Israel/West just crossing into Iran airspace to throw bombs, they know it very well and the COIN operation will not change anything, Iran has lobbed BMs and drones 100km into Pak, Pak did the same and no Iranian was even killed but refugees affiliated with terrorists. This doesn't have to trigger Iran to fire "100K missiles" into random places in Pakistan this is just that some users are sensible to this and thinks it is all over for Iran, they fell into the same trap with Afghanistan and this brought all kinds of opportunists such as Indians that only care about Pakistan being harmed

By the way i swear i would cut my **** off and delete my account if US/Israel/Turkey/whatever does any unilateral airstrikes inside Iran, whether against "Kurdish terrorists" or whatever they would claim, without any response from Iran, anyone can save this message

And to the emotive people, don't fall into their trap by focusing on Pakistan, this is exactly what they want, all eyes on Iran and Pakistan, look at MSM, it feels like what's going in Gaza doesn't exist anymore when watching them

I cant argue against much of what you have said. At the end of the day Pak and Iran both have bigger problems to deal with, they need to address this border issue because I am 100% sure their enemies will have gained new ideas on how to create trouble for them both. The apartheid state and its zionist backers would love to see both Pak and Iran destroy each other, the one big issue the Islamic world has is decent leaders who can think with a level head.

 

[WatchtowerWarrior4Ever]

Oh so just because there is criminal activity then neither side should do anything about it and accept it as a norm? Whats Iranian blood worth when the criminals profit from stolen oil, right?!

Let's take you down from your high horses of an ideal world.

The lengthy border with Pakistan (976 kilometers) along with the history of the territory and the ethnic groups that inhabit it have determined the overall development of Sistan and Baluchistan. Its ethnic roots can betrayed to the nomadic tribes generally identified as Baluchi's and Sistanis that were and still are distributed among the Iranian, Pakistani, and Afghan territories. Fierce and rebellious to any kind of foreign domination, they have managed to preserve their cultural and economic independence throughout the histories of Iran and Pakistan.

Their nomadic traditions and trading skills coupled with their ancestral rejection of geopolitical frontiers have made these ethnics particularly known as “smugglers” of different types of goods within the Baluchistan territories in Iran and Pakistan.

I can recall a study carried out in Shirabad, a small town near the Sistan and Baluchistan provincial capital, Zahedan, 40% to 65% of Shirabad residents earns their living either by smuggling goods between Iran and Pakistan or by providing logistical support to local drug trafficking criminal organizations. It is worth mentioning that according to the same study none of the local leaders of local drug trafficking organizations live in Shirabad itself. It also means that the largest portion of the revenue generated by illegal activities is neither invested nor spent in this town. According to Iranian Law Enforcement authorities, there are 50 smuggling routes currently in use in Sistan and Baluchistan Province. Key locations are identified as Mirjaveh, Zahedan, and Iranshahr.

Because of the new tactics adapted by the smugglers, the number of these routes has increased dramatically in the past 5 years. The following are the identified trafficking routes originating from Sistan and Baluchistan Province:
1. Sistan and Baluchestan-Kerman-Yazd-Tehran
2. Sistan and Baluchistan-Khorasan
3. Sistan and Baluchistan-Bandar Abbas and/or Hormuzgan (Persian Gulf area) – Fars - Khuzestan

Trafficking in Sistan and Baluchistan Province is carried out by large well armed motorized convoys. Different local groups, or tribes, may join the traffickers against the law enforcement units operating in the area. Contrary to the situation in Khorasan Province, tribal links do ensure the overall support for the traffickers by the local communities. Hope this will enlarge your canvas of the realities we both nations had to deal with.

The timing is odd I agree which is why I think there may have been cooperation. I cant even argue with that. But the need to act had more justification. Those channels have been exhausted for years and fallen on deaf ears!

No sir you are wrong. These channels are always available unless your policy makers have different things in mind of course...

Iraq can do whatever it wants, the UN is useless and Iran is not bound by anything it passes or does. Iraq knows it is hosting Israeli mossad and will not get much sympathy from any of Iran's allies. Many countries have violated sovereignty in the fight against terror, it is the norm and Iran has the clout to do it.

Well that's the point. Pakistan ain't Iraq. And with Pakistan this is not a norm. Period.

Iran can take out all of Pakistans airports and nuclear sites if Pakistan had done anything stupid last night which is why it didn't touch IRGC, who were the ones who fired the BMs.

You guys should take out Israeli Airports or their sensitive sites first because Iranian regime in Tehran has only few things to sell for their people right....After all 30000 innocent Gaza souls could have been saved right??? Pakistan just replied in same manner on tit for tat policy basis. If you guys picks up a military target in Pakistan next time, than Pakistani reply will be same.....Think twice before creating new norms here. Cheers.

 

[Tehrani021]

Let's take you down from your high horses of an ideal world.

The lengthy border with Pakistan (976 kilometers) along with the history of the territory and the ethnic groups that inhabit it have determined the overall development of Sistan and Baluchistan. Its ethnic roots can betrayed to the nomadic tribes generally identified as Baluchi's and Sistanis that were and still are distributed among the Iranian, Pakistani, and Afghan territories. Fierce and rebellious to any kind of foreign domination, they have managed to preserve their cultural and economic independence throughout the histories of Iran and Pakistan.

Their nomadic traditions and trading skills coupled with their ancestral rejection of geopolitical frontiers have made these ethnics particularly known as “smugglers” of different types of goods within the Baluchistan territories in Iran and Pakistan.

I can recall a study carried out in Shirabad, a small town near the Sistan and Baluchistan provincial capital, Zahedan, 40% to 65% of Shirabad residents earns their living either by smuggling goods between Iran and Pakistan or by providing logistical support to local drug trafficking criminal organizations. It is worth mentioning that according to the same study none of the local leaders of local drug trafficking organizations live in Shirabad itself. It also means that the largest portion of the revenue generated by illegal activities is neither invested nor spent in this town. According to Iranian Law Enforcement authorities, there are 50 smuggling routes currently in use in Sistan and Baluchistan Province. Key locations are identified as Mirjaveh, Zahedan, and Iranshahr.

Because of the new tactics adapted by the smugglers, the number of these routes has increased dramatically in the past 5 years. The following are the identified trafficking routes originating from Sistan and Baluchistan Province:
1. Sistan and Baluchestan-Kerman-Yazd-Tehran
2. Sistan and Baluchistan-Khorasan
3. Sistan and Baluchistan-Bandar Abbas and/or Hormuzgan (Persian Gulf area) – Fars - Khuzestan

Trafficking in Sistan and Baluchistan Province is carried out by large well armed motorized convoys. Different local groups, or tribes, may join the traffickers against the law enforcement units operating in the area. Contrary to the situation in Khorasan Province, tribal links do ensure the overall support for the traffickers by the local communities. Hope this will enlarge your canvas of the realities we both nations had to deal with.

No sir you are wrong. These channels are always available unless your policy makers have different things in mind of course...

Well that's the point. Pakistan ain't Iraq. And with Pakistan this is not a norm. Period.

You guys should take out Israeli Airports or their sensitive sites first because Iranian regime in Tehran has only few things to sell for their people right....After all 30000 innocent Gaza souls could have been saved right??? Pakistan just replied in same manner on tit for tat policy basis. If you guys picks up a military target in Pakistan next time, than Pakistani reply will be same.....Think twice before creating new norms here. Cheers.

Lovely history lesson! The Scots were also a proud independent power who often raided against the Romans and then the Saxons. Now look at them, they are civilised and do not fight. Same with the Irish terrorism. What you said there is in no way justification for weaponisation and turning a blind eye to extremism. That is a scapegoat and appeasement of terrorism which Iran won't tolerate.

Yes smuggling is an issue which needs to be tackled, and how do countries like America and the likes deal with similar issues? Not by turning the other way and taking kick backs like over there in Pakistan, but to actually grow a pair of balls and take these criminals out and assert control.

Yes the channels of talking and no action are always there, we know this for decades, we have had enough of your biriyani and tea channels. Time to switch the channel to a different show.

I would argue Pakistani Balochistan is worse than Iraq and Syria in terms of extremism and criminal behaviour, and Sistan is not much better. Which is why i find it mad when you Pakistanis see Balochistan as synonymous with Islamabad considering the state it is in. You obviously have low standards.

What has Pakistan done to fight Israel? NOTHING! Without Iran there would be no resistance, no Hamas, no Hezbollah? What has Pakistan contributed? Never throw stones from glass houses! You are friends of Israel and US.

So you admit that those terrorists in Balochistan are "military targets"? Not doing yourself any favours here. Touch the IRGC and see what happens, which is why you didn't dare do anything stupid last night.

 

[Tehrani021]

Mostly irrelevant. Rest...your entire country is even a human smuggling corridor from Asia to Europe. Improve your situation there in your backyard. While we shall improve ours...God knows what tolerance you are are talking about....

You have only few countries which can buy your oil, gas or other products.....one is Pakistan. Huge chunk of your products can only be smuggled due to the black list of FATF on which your country loves to remain even for the future generations....Your 65% population living near border earn it's living based on kick backs of these smuggled products....which world you live in ?

Had a face palm yesterday. Go ahead, try switching it again.

Dud what you are talking about? Try to comprehend a basic principle....you need permission before doing an adventure in backyard of some individual even. Let alone a nuclear armed country which already is eyeballing 4th largest military looking for the vulnerabilities on the Eastern side of its border. It's not about synonymy of Islamabad & rural Baluchistan. It's about respecting the international boundaries. That's it.... Unless you guys suffer from some kinda super powaa syndrome by which you can do whatever you want deep inside entire Middle East. This rag tag thinking attitude will turn your extremely isolated country into ticking target. You cannot take on every one....what's wrong with u guys...i mean seriously ?

So you think your Iranian policy makers have contributed by fully funding, aiding groups like Hamas or hezbollah which are directly responsible for wiping out Gaza strip via hands of Israel. Your Hamas has messed up in Gaza. It's empty.....with countless dead bodies beneath the rubble....Well congratulations if you feel proud of it.

But you can take out entire Pakistani basis or nuclear sites right? You don't have clue what you are bragging here. Lolx.

That's a very long winded and childish way of saying you're a closet zionist who supports terrorism.

 

[Mehdipersian]

More than 12,000 Palestinian children have been martyred in the last three months!
I congratulate the Zionists and the heads of the Arab and Islamic countries for this great crime.

Israel will pay the price soon

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140 attacks against US bases in Iraq and Syria since 7 October 2023

 

[tsunset]

Airstrikes have failed to stop Houthis – Biden

US President Joe Biden has admitted that American airstrikes against Houthi militants have failed to stop the group attacking shipping

www.rt.com

The US president has said that the strikes will continue regardless of their ineffectiveness

Very logical US thinking, this is openly admitting that they just want deaths and nothing else

 

[tsunset]

Iranian and Pakistani foreign ministers discussed mutual cooperation in the fight against terrorism and reaffirmed respect for the territorial integrity of each other’s countries after reciprocal attacks on border areas soured relations between the two Muslim neighbors.​

Iran, Pakistan Move to Defuse Row, Stress Cooperation in War on Terror - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iranian and Pakistani foreign ministers discussed mutual cooperation in the fight against terrorism and reaffirmed respect for the territorial integrity of each other’s countries after reciprocal attacks on border areas soured relations between the two Muslim neighbors.

www.tasnimnews.com