Iranian Chill Thread

[Persian Gulf]

Its a deep and complicated game played by iran and united states.
Iran as a state is very cunning and intelligent there are deep networks of mutual understanding and protocols exist between usa and iran.
Iran is a trojan horse of usa utilised for keeping check on whole of middle east including israel.
israel is a partner of usa but will work according to its will its not a lapdog of usa.
problem arises when some rogue elements created by usa and iran bites them in the back like isis bombing in iran.
strikes in syria and iraq was necessary as they are the strong holds of rogue elements.
But the main reasons why pakistan was bombed was because of two reasons.

1. Current political and economic turmoil makes pakistan a very soft target as compared to going for israel or saudi arabia directly. Strikes in pakistan give a stern warning to the other countries about iran capabilities.

2. usa gave the nod to iran for the strikes to try a false cry for help with pakistan to tackle iran as pakistan surely realising the double face nature of usa is moving to chinese camp.

pakistan retaliation was not expected of this magnitude buy iran and certainly is not helpful for the regions peace. Both iran and pakistan are very experienced in covert warfare and further attacks will take place in covert manner only.

All in all its a bad decision of irani regime and can cost them badly in future.
regarding pakistan its the same old story of attacks and retaliation goes on in neighbouring countries.
America will defintely try to lure pakistan against iran.

Iran is not "trojan horse of USA" and there is no "Irani regime", speak with respect in the Iranian section.

That said, I appreciate India's supportive statement/stance in relation to this issue.

 

[Persian Gulf]

No, it shows that our leaders only have one remaining red line left, and that is to stay in power. And we don't even know how we would respond if that last remaining red line were crossed. Killing our scientists, our allies and generals, hurting our economy or conducting air strikes on our soil is not a red line. Thats a terrible message to send, with or without having nuclear arms.

Spot on again. This is not news but we are seeing it manifest in different ways and become more extreme every year.

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[spammmmer]

Iran is not "trojan horse of USA" and there is no "Irani regime", speak with respect in the Iranian section.

That said, I appreciate India's supportive statement/stance in relation to this issue.

we are always standing with you.

 

[Tehrani021]

What are you on about? I am Iranian and was referring to Pakistani users who encouraged nuking us in return.
I am against us bombing them, there's no reason to add another enemy country to our list. Especially one with nukes that have a huge population with extremist views against us.

Our redline has always been attacking us within our borders, they just did it, we have no choice but to respond, but we can't afford to do it. So what's the endgame?

Iran gets blamed when it does nothing to avenge the deaths of our boys by the same Iranians who will call Iran "stupid" when it decides to do something. Don't you think Iran has been pleading with Pakistan to sort its side of the border for years? Have we seen Pakistan do anything? If Pakistan wants to play these stalling games as a guise to allow anti-iran terrorism to flourish then this missile attack by Iran hopefully would force Pakistan and Iran to put their endless statements for a need to cooperate into action.

Pakistan was always pro-west and PGCC aligned, they were never an ally. We don't need to respond to Pakistan as they didn't dare attack IRGC who were the ones who launched the attack first.

 

[Persian Gulf]

we are always standing with you.

Support in times of difficulty is always noted and appreciated.

I read a INS ship in the Red Sea was struck by Houthis, do you know if it is true? Iran should ask Houthis to give safe passage to Indian ships not heading to / returning from Israel, if this is not already the case.

 

[spammmmer]

Support in times of difficulty is always noted and appreciated.

I read a INS ship in the Red Sea was struck by Houthis, do you know if it is true? Iran should ask Houthis to give safe passage to Indian ships not heading to / returning from Israel, if this is not already the case.

https://www.reuters.com/business/indian-navy-rescues-crew-after-attack-ship-off-coast-yemen-2024-01-18/

Are you talking about this ship?
Its done

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[tsunset]

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"ترجمه اشتباه است!نتانیاهو در پاسخ به پرسش یک خبرنگار که پرسیده «چرا به جای حمله به پراکسی‌های ایران، به خود ایران حمله نمی‌کنید؟» گفته است: «چه کسی گفته به ایران حمله نمی‌کنیم، داریم به ایران حمله می‌کنیم!»"
He refers to Qassam probably

 

[mangekyo]

Iran gets blamed when it does nothing to avenge the deaths of our boys by the same Iranians who will call Iran "stupid" when it decides to do something. Don't you think Iran has been pleading with Pakistan to sort its side of the border for years? Have we seen Pakistan do anything? If Pakistan wants to play these stalling games as a guise to allow anti-iran terrorism to flourish then this missile attack by Iran hopefully would force Pakistan and Iran to put their endless statements for a need to cooperate into action.

Pakistan was always pro-west and PGCC aligned, they were never an ally. We don't need to respond to Pakistan as they didn't dare attack IRGC who were the ones who launched the attack first.

You fail to see the bigger picture. A proper revenge would be to launch the missiles at Israel, not Pakistan. Iran blamed US and Israel for the Kerman terror attacks, then went on and launched missiles at Syria, Iraq and Pakistan, the latter responded with air strikes of its own.

When Mossad assassinates our scientists on our own soil, we say it's an indirect attack, so we can't strike Israel directly. When US assassinated Soleimani, we said it happened on foreign soil. Now Pakistan flew jets into our airspace and hurled missiles at us. What do we say this time? The imaginary red line of IRGC was crossed and there will not be any response because we simply can't afford it. Do you not think that Israel, US, Saudi etc takes note of this? Even our regional rival Turkey will feel emboldened by this. The consequences of this attack are so many I can write an endless list.

Now China and Russia know we are a loose canon,
Our image in the muslim world is hurt more than ever,
Resistance fighters will think twice about the protection we can offer them, now that they see we can't even protect ourselves,
The myth that any attack on Iran will be met by 100k missiles is gone,
Pakistan will never forget this attack and will be drawn towards the anti-Iranian bloc,

I am going to pause here, but we can comfort ourselves with the fact that we traded all this and more, for a couple of terrorists and civilians.

 

[tsunset]

You fail to see the bigger picture. A proper revenge would be to launch the missiles at Israel, not Pakistan. Iran blamed US and Israel for the Kerman terror attacks, then went on and launched missiles at Syria, Iraq and Pakistan, the latter responded with air strikes of its own.

When Mossad assassinates our scientists on our own soil, we say it's an indirect attack, so we can't strike Israel directly. When US assassinated Soleimani, we said it happened on foreign soil. Now Pakistan flew jets into our airspace and hurled missiles at us. What do we say this time? The imaginary red line of IRGC was crossed and there will not be any response because we simply can't afford it. Do you not think that Israel, US, Saudi etc takes note of this? Even our regional rival Turkey will feel emboldened by this. The consequences of this attack are so many I can write an endless list.

Now China and Russia know we are a loose canon,
Our image in the muslim world is hurt more than ever,
Resistance fighters will think twice about the protection we can offer them, now that they see we can't even protect ourselves,
The myth that any attack on Iran will be met by 100k missiles is gone,
Pakistan will never forget this attack and will be drawn towards the anti-Iranian bloc,

I am going to pause here, but we can comfort ourselves with the fact that we traded all this and more, for a couple of terrorists and civilians.

How much naggers that just nag for the sake of nagging and not giving any solution while mixing everything with emotions and delusions do we have here?

The myth that any attack on Iran will be met by 100k missiles is gone,

Hilarious interpretation of what happened

“Iran has never attacked israel, it only attacks them in neighbouring countries” I’m not responsible for your lack of braincells and single IQ and I don’t expect these single IQs to understand it, so let me explain it to you in very easy language. Israel never attacked Iran directly, it uses its proxy terrorist groups inside Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan to carry out their filthy work. Therefore Iran responds by crushing and destroying the place where the terrorist attack was planned. The terrorists in Pakistan that were targeted today, were responsible for a terrorist attack on an Iranian police station, so Iran responded by levelling their bases. Same with Iraq. Not so hard to understand, but it’s okay.

 

[mangekyo]

How much naggers that just nag for the sake of nagging and not giving any solution while mixing everything with emotions and delusions do we have here?


Hilarious interpretation of what happened

Thats exactly what happened, we showed them our might and backed down once they retaliated. Well done.
And why are you adding someone else's post when you quote? I never wrote the last part...

Patriotism is a good thing for any country, a patriotic fool is a curse.

 

[Tehrani021]

You fail to see the bigger picture. A proper revenge would be to launch the missiles at Israel, not Pakistan. Iran blamed US and Israel for the Kerman terror attacks, then went on and launched missiles at Syria, Iraq and Pakistan, the latter responded with air strikes of its own.

When Mossad assassinates our scientists on our own soil, we say it's an indirect attack, so we can't strike Israel directly. When US assassinated Soleimani, we said it happened on foreign soil. Now Pakistan flew jets into our airspace and hurled missiles at us. What do we say this time? The imaginary red line of IRGC was crossed and there will not be any response because we simply can't afford it. Do you not think that Israel, US, Saudi etc takes note of this? Even our regional rival Turkey will feel emboldened by this. The consequences of this attack are so many I can write an endless list.

Now China and Russia know we are a loose canon,
Our image in the muslim world is hurt more than ever,
Resistance fighters will think twice about the protection we can offer them, now that they see we can't even protect ourselves,
The myth that any attack on Iran will be met by 100k missiles is gone,
Pakistan will never forget this attack and will be drawn towards the anti-Iranian bloc,

I am going to pause here, but we can comfort ourselves with the fact that we traded all this and more, for a couple of terrorists and civilians.

You need a reality check! Iran is in no position to directly attack Israel, who will definitely hit Iran back disproportionately. Iran knows this, and so does Israel. Also Israel only targets Iran proxies and never attacks Iran directly either it must be noted. Regardless, what Iran can do however is take out the multitude of Israeli networks in the region that are targetting Iran. Taking these out is better than inaction and I will not entertain any argument that these are conspiracy theory.

Those attacks were orchestrated in the areas which Iran struck, and there have been many evidences of Israeli mossad presence. Regarding the US, did you expect Iran to wipe out the entire US Army and would be able to deal with the aftermath? Iran isn't superman, but at least it did enough which discouaged the US in escalating with Iran by striking their bases in Iraq.

The Muslim world is usually blind to the help we have given the Palestinians, but they know deep down that nobody else has done more against the kuffar than Iran. Russia and China know full well that Iran has every right to combat terrorism as they themselves have been in the same position time and time again, so I don't know where you're getting this from?

For the millionth time, Iran was not attacked! None of Iran's military, establishment, refineries, non-seperatist provices, infrastructure was attacked! Stop with this pro-Pakistani line of argument. It's desperate and false!

You are again someone who only knows when to complain but have zero solution if you were in Iran's shoes. So what would you do if Iran was being attacked by terrorists and you have a nation like Pakistan who doesn't give a damn and allows it to happen? What do you say to the families? How many years do you give Pakistan to do something? What are YOUR red lines?

 

[mangekyo]

You need a reality check! Iran is in no position to directly attack Israel, who will definitely hit Iran back disproportionately. Iran knows this, and so does Israel. Also Israel only targets Iran proxies and never attacks Iran directly either it must be noted. Regardless, what Iran can do however is take out the multitude of Israeli networks in the region that are targetting Iran. Taking these out is better than inaction and I will not entertain any argument that these are conspiracy theory.

So you are saying that we shouldn't mess with anyone who can attack us disproportionately? Then what's stopping Israel or US now from attacking us directly if they feel they need to? What will happen the next time we try another Abqaiq? You think the Saudis wont respond?

Those attacks were orchestrated in the areas which Iran struck, and there have been many evidences of Israeli mossad presence. Regarding the US, did you expect Iran to wipe out the entire US Army and would be able to deal with the aftermath? Iran isn't superman, but at least it did enough which discouaged the US in escalating with Iran by striking their bases in Iraq.

This only shows that Mossad or whoever can do whatever they want against us and we will retaliate against Syria, Iraq and Pakistan (not anymore though). A terrible message to send.

For the millionth time, Iran was not attacked! None of Iran's military, establishment, refineries, non-seperatist provices, infrastructure was attacked! Stop with this pro-Pakistani line of argument. It's desperate and false!

You are the one that needs a reality check here, An attack on Iran is an attack on Iran, it doesn't matter where it happens. No country with any shred of self-respect will tolerate another country bombing them with jets under the excuse of "its ok, they attacked an unimportant area, and none of our soldiers died anyways"

They flew into our airspace and bombed us. Why are you trying to play it down like nothing happened. What's stopping Turkey from doing the same thing in Northwestern Iran and say "We didn't attack Iran, we attacked Kurdish terrorists"

If what you say is true, then Pakistan wouldn't have retaliated, but they did because we crossed their red line, which we apparently do not have.

You are again someone who only knows when to complain but have zero solution if you were in Iran's shoes. So what would you do if Iran was being attacked by terrorists and you have a nation like Pakistan who doesn't give a damn and allows it to happen? What do you say to the families? How many years do you give Pakistan to do something? What are YOUR red lines?

First of all, you should ask yourself who is benefiting from all the smuggling. If the border is such a big deal, how about we do something about it on our side of the border? How about doing something against the backers and funders of these terrorist groups? You think they will run out of new terrorists to recruit? I can give you the answer for free; it's "no"

I may not have the best solutions, but it is very easy to see that launching the attacks was a grave mistake that will come to haunt us in the future.

 

[tsunset]

So you are saying that we shouldn't mess with anyone who can attack us disproportionately? Then what's stopping Israel or US now from attacking us directly if they feel they need to? What will happen the next time we try another Abqaiq? You think the Saudis wont respond?

This only shows that Mossad or whoever can do whatever they want against us and we will retaliate against Syria, Iraq and Pakistan (not anymore though). A terrible message to send.

You are the one that needs a reality check here, An attack on Iran is an attack on Iran, it doesn't matter where it happens. No country with any shred of self-respect will tolerate another country bombing them with jets under the excuse of "its ok, they attacked an unimportant area, and none of our soldiers died anyways"

They flew into our airspace and bombed us. Why are you trying to play it down like nothing happened. What's stopping Turkey from doing the same thing in Northwestern Iran and say "We didn't attack Iran, we attacked Kurdish terrorists"

If what you say is true, then Pakistan wouldn't have retaliated, but they did because we crossed their red line, which we apparently do not have.


First of all, you should ask yourself who is benefiting from all the smuggling. If the border is such a big deal, how about we do something about it on our side of the border? How about doing something against the backers and funders of these terrorist groups? You think they will run out of new terrorists to recruit? I can give you the answer for free; it's "no"

I may not have the best solutions, but it is very easy to see that launching the attacks was a grave mistake that will come to haunt us in the future.

Good response from this user on the matter

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haddaghal qajara ba russaho , engilisia mijangidan, agar in zaiftain dollate tarikhe iran nist pas kudumesh Zaiftare ? jomhorie eslami az Pakestan Zarbeh mikhore. hesabi daram khejalat mikesham. As Kuroshe bozorgh residim be Pakestan Zarbeh khordan. mashallah aghaie Hajizadeh..... Agair...

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Iran's red line is the US/Israel attack on our soil, and will their attack probably be on military position, not on some desert part of Iran, they will neither get away with this, comparing the COIN that Pakistan did with Iran and the US red line is stupid, the RED LINE is US/Western foreigners crossing the airspace to bomb anything, NOT Pakistan doing a COIN after Iran lobbed BMs 100km into Pak territory with drones.

 

[Messerschmitt]

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