Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Pressure from the pro-Iranians:

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Persian Gulf said:
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HEYYYYYYY we have some update on TP3 and it's from an official.

I figure TP3 is going to be much bigger and divers than TP2 that it is going to take time.
 
jauk said:
Pressure from the pro-Iranians:

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Response to the tweet:
There is no point in TP3. Iran was threatening because Hezbollah was their knife on Israel throat. With Hezbollah retreating and Syrian arms route blocked the knife is gone. If Iran attacks Israel now Iran will only give America more reason to destroy nuclear facilities.

Better for Iran to sit back and let someone else have a turn at removing Israel. What would TP3 do?
 
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Snake said:
There is no point in TP3. Iran was threatening because Hezbollah was their knife on Israel throat. With Hezbollah retreating and Syrian arms route blocked the knife is gone. If Iran attacks Israel now Iran will only give America more reason to destroy nuclear facilities.

Better for Iran to sit back and let someone else have a turn at removing Israel. What would TP3 do?
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? Incorrect!

A strong argument can be made that TP3 is no longer needed since deterrence has been obviously established.

HOWEVER, given the mouthing off of military leaders, TP3 transcended the realm of strategic reality into hubris— so much so that now the PUBLIC is demanding TP3, putting the government under unnecessary pressure.
 
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Persian Gulf said:
if they fuel 2 missiles per day and launch 400 missiles we should be ready in June 2025
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Wachu talkin bout Willis? Iran has thousands of solid fuel missiles the only thing that needs fueling are the lorries that haul them missiles.
 
TP3 may lack any common sense now, but it won't soon enough when the Israelis launch their own attacks on Iran's nuclear facilities.

That is when the full scale war with the Israelis and Americans will start. Iran maybe doesn't want the war with them, but they want so, therefore there is no other choice to fight. It has already been decided that the Zionists want the Ayatollahs gone, so now is the time to fight and at least go down spectacularly instead of running away like chicken wuss cowards which is humiliating because at least Non-Muslim Russian soldiers are stoic and don't mind great sacrifices but Muslims can't even fight WW2-level Mass Casualty Full-Scale Wars like a True Chad.
 
jauk said:
A strong argument can be made that TP3 is no longer needed since deterrence has been obviously established.
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How was deterrence established? Israel attacked Iran and Iranians did nothing but talk - the "mouthing off":
jauk said:
HOWEVER, given the mouthing off of military leaders, TP3 transcended the realm of strategic reality into hubris— so much so that now the PUBLIC is demanding TP3, putting the government under unnecessary pressure.
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It (TP3) is a justified request from the population that takes pride in their country. They sacrifice a lot, due to sanctions, for the government to be able to defend their homeland and their communities.

If you pay for a security guard to protect your house and your worst enemy breaks in while the guard is on duty do you let the guard continue his duty as if nothing happened?
 
SolarWarden said:
Wachu talkin bout Willis? Iran has thousands of solid fuel missiles the only thing that needs fueling are the lorries that haul them missiles.
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I believe Persian was being sarcastic. At least that's how I read it. It's a funny comment 🤣🤣🤣 even for those of us who have some knowledge of Iranian missile inventories.
 
when they finish with Yemen and cripple their milititary offensive capabilities Iran is next.
You do not trust your enemy enough when they said they will reshape middle east.
 
StrategicBear said:
TP3 may lack any common sense now, but it won't soon enough when the Israelis launch their own attacks on Iran's nuclear facilities.

That is when the full scale war with the Israelis and Americans will start. Iran maybe doesn't want the war with them, but they want so, therefore there is no other choice to fight. It has already been decided that the Zionists want the Ayatollahs gone, so now is the time to fight and at least go down spectacularly instead of running away like chicken wuss cowards which is humiliating because at least Non-Muslim Russian soldiers are stoic and don't mind great sacrifices but Muslims can't even fight WW2-level Mass Casualty Full-Scale Wars like a True Chad.
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I believe Iran has already shown that it can withstand mass casualties figures without it's society breaking down. One might argue that Iranian society has changed a lot since hardcore early days of the post revolution but I am certain Iran will once again show it's metal if the homeland is threatened. I pray and I'm relatively certain that it won't happen again since Iran's military material strength is very very different now. We still though have to factor in that the enemy is heinous and has no qualms about the death of millions of Iranians nor anyone else for that matter.
 
mulj said:
when they finish with Yemen and cripple their milititary offensive capabilities Iran is next.
You do not trust your enemy enough when they said they will reshape middle east.
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Unless Yemen stops attacking the entity, they are going to lose all their critical infrastructure - ports, power stations, bridges etc.

As for Iran TP3 should have already been done with maybe 2 waves of 400 of the more modern ballistic missiles. That would have demonstrated intent and capability to restore deterrence.

When Zio-US senses weakness, it just escalates further.
 
mulj said:
when they finish with Yemen and cripple their milititary offensive capabilities Iran is next.
You do not trust your enemy enough when they said they will reshape middle east.
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They started reshaping middle east with Syria. Its already out of control and we have to face it.

When prophet Muhammed (pbuh) raised voice against tyrants, kuffar of Quraysh started attacking his surrounding people. Torturing Ammar and his family, torturing Bilal Habashi, torturing and mass killing of newly converted Muslims etc in Mecca.

Abu Sufyan used to say: Most of Muhammad's followers are of women and weak people.

It won't end well for Kuffar.
 
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