PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions
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FOOLS_NIGHTMARE
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lightning f57
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Did Pakistani broadcaster 24 news HD recently report Pak to aquire 40 J35s in 2 years time?
MastanKhan
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Michael
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Pak to aquire 40 J35s in 2 years time?
There is no doubt that this is 100% fake news, no matter where it comes from! Even if it was released by the PAF Chief of General Staff himself, it would still be fake news!
lightning f57
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I have my reservations on time frames, however the quantity seem reasonable.
MastanKhan
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Hi,
It is not fake news---. It is just a piece of news----.
2 years is just a target date---a date that every contract has---.
Target dates have been delayed by years---.
I don't understand why posters are acting stupid about J31's target date---.
F-35 is still not 100% ready yet---.
F22 got retired even before reaching its full potential
Tejas is 30 years behind
The eurofighter got delayed by years.
On another tangent---
US F18 maybe shot down over red sea
2 US Navy pilots shot down over Red Sea in apparent 'friendly fire' incident, US military says
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Michael
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About time:
The J-35A is still currently in the testing phase (military testing), it has not yet reached the production finalization phase. After it has been tested by PLAAF for enough time, the military test reports will be fed back to SAC, who will recalibrate the J-35 based on these reports until PLAAF is fully satisfied. Only then will the production J-35A be finalized.
The foreign trade version of the J-35 will have some adjustments related to the J-35A, and the relevant parts of the J-35A will be replaced with the foreign trade version.After SAC finalizes the foreign trade version of the J-35, it will invite the target customers to experience and test the J-35. Only after this will the contract be signed.
Obviously, these efforts will take a longer time. Even at “Chinese speed”, we will not be able to deliver 40 J-35s to PAF in two years.
In fact, I don't think all versions of the J-35 series (foreign trade, PLAAF and PLAN) will be able to reach a total of 40 in two years.
About the quantity:
Based on current analysis, the cost price of the J-35A is about $80-100 million. The J-35s sold to PAF will not cost less than $100 million per unit (if PAF voluntarily requests a lower configuration, the price could be less than $100 million. But this is less likely).The unit price of the J-35 foreign trade version is estimated to be between $100-150 million.
40x J-35, 20x WS-21 spare engines, routine maintenance parts, associated weapons and ammunition, training costs ...... Total value is about $8-10 billion.
If PAF wants these 40x J-35s to be fully operationally capable, it will require significant changes to PAF's existing combat systems. They include:
Improvements to C4ISR: Early Warning Aircraft, Military Data Link, Combat Command Center, Military Supercomputer ..... ...PAF's existing systems cannot fully utilize the J-35's operational capabilities.
Infrastructure: dedicated hangars, maintenance facilities ......
These will cost no less than the J-35 procurement.
One thing is clear, China will never allow Pakistan to involve a third country in any of the J-35's affairs. At most, China will allow Pakistan to use Sino-Pakistani co-produced weapons or airborne equipment on the J-35 (including Pakistan's imitation of Chinese weapons or airborne equipment), but will not allow any third country to intervene. For example, Turkish or Turkish Pakistani co-produced weapons/airborne equipment, they will never be allowed on the J-35. This will add some cost to the PAF to use.
In a comprehensive analysis, the complete cost of 40 J-35s would be around $15-20 billion.
So, do you think Pakistan will be able to meet this cost?
Hakikat ve Hikmet
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Given the geo-strategic uncertainty a "moth eaten" J-35 is better than no J-35. If the Pak Deep State wants to take the WOT to the next level, that is the Turkish way, it needs to nullify the Bharati capabilities first. Then it should be like "all hell let loose" on the Bharati assets everywhere inside Afganistan.....Hi,
It is not fake news---. It is just a piece of news----.
2 years is just a target date---a date that every contract has---.
Target dates have been delayed by years---.
I don't understand why posters are acting stupid about J31's target date---.
F-35 is still not 100% ready yet---.
F22 got retired even before reaching its full potential
Tejas is 30 years behind
The eurofighter got delayed by years.
On another tangent---
US F18 maybe shot down over red sea
2 US Navy pilots shot down over Red Sea in apparent 'friendly fire' incident, US military says
Two U.S. Navy pilots were shot down Sunday over the Red Sea in an apparent “friendly fire” incident, the U.S military said, marking the most serious incident to threaten troops in over a year of Ameri...www.yahoo.com
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onlinpunit
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Three photos of PAF chief. ! Why !
iblini
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Lol, I just saw a likely insider teasing us on his weibo account again and then I saw this.
UKBengali
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China will offer "soft loans' to countries like PAF in order to purchase the J-35A and I doubt that PAF would pay more than cost price, which will anyway be at most 20% higher than PLAAF version.
And as regards the other infrastructure to fully utilise the J-35A that is a "nice to have" and not "must have'. Pakistan and other countries will slowly fill in the gaps after they purchase J-35A.
China will want to sell as many export version J-35As mainly for strategic reasons and not just to make money.
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