Iranian Chill Thread

[jauk]

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[Kharral]

No I said Pakistan is being used by US to wage a proxy war. Don't you get tired of misreading and twisting what I'm clearly saying? Their relationship is superficial though.

The grey zone was created by the flow of weapons and terrorists which Iran played no part in, but is clear that came from Afghanistan through Pakistan. This is a mismanagement and in no way conducive to what Iran had in mind as giving some autonomy to ethnic groups.

Of course theyre the force itself! It increases the power index of any nation by quite some way. I can't believe you even made that comment.

It's clear that it is more greyer on one side from what can be verified. While cooperation is essential Pakistan has to do more.

Your reading of the whole situation is very myopic. You are beginning to sound more and more like an Indian. You can do better than that.

If Pakistan is being used by US to wage a proxy war against Iran then it must have been a pretty pathetic effort to have not achieved any goals at all in the last 45 years. Don’t you think ?

You realise Billions of Dollars worth of Drugs & Iranian oil is smuggled through that border. Let me break it to you, it’s not smuggled, it’s facilitated on both sides of the border by authorities. It’s a revebue stream for both IRGC & PAK Mil.

How do you think both sides fund their proxies & irregular operations when they have no share in the Global Banking network ?

How is it that Iran can run decades long very complex operations all over the Middle East yet it’s unable to manage a border issue at home ?

 

[Tehrani021]

Your reading of the whole situation is very myopic. You are beginning to sound more and more like an Indian. You can do better than that.

If Pakistan is being used by US to wage a proxy war against Iran then it must have been a pretty pathetic effort to have not achieved any goals at all in the last 45 years. Don’t you think ?

You realise Billions of Dollars worth of Drugs & Iranian oil is smuggled through that border. Let me break it to you, it’s not smuggled, it’s facilitated on both sides of the border by authorities. It’s a revebue stream for both IRGC & PAK Mil.

How do you think both sides fund their proxies & irregular operations when they have no share in the Global Banking network ?

How is it that Iran can run decades long very complex operations all over the Middle East yet it’s unable to manage a border issue at home ?

And you're sounding more and more like zionist. See I can stab in the dark as well.

You clearly dont know how the world works. Keeping Iran destablised with their border forces and civilians dying is demoralising and forces Iran to act so that public don't lose trust. This mounts pressure on Iran so of course it will have an impact! It may not be going as fast as you like but it is a slow grind that will take as long as it needs from the perspective of US and it's local allies.

Iran doesnt need terrorists to give oil to Pakistan, otherwise it wouldn't have tried to create an oil pipeline, they would have just relied on the terrorists. Please think before speaking. When groups get weaponised they will quickly find ways of making money to fund their operations. None of this money comes back to IRGC and I implore you to show evidence for this.

Do you honestly think Iran has no revenue from its oil sales because of sanctions? Lol come on bro, Iran's unofficial total GDP is very high.

Because the border issues has been inflicted upon it by a neighbour that is allowing arms to flow into Iran. We're going around in circles now.

 

[Shawnee]

My 12+ years of pdf experience:

Very negative Pakistani views on Iran are less than 20 percent and come from hidden Shia hatred. It gets presented as geopolitical matters through secular beliefs but its base is Shia hatred.

 

[Waz]

Brothers this is mean to be a chill thread?

 

[Messerschmitt]

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[925boy]

Thats exactly what happened, we showed them our might and backed down once they retaliated. Well done.
And why are you adding someone else's post when you quote? I never wrote the last part...

Patriotism is a good thing for any country, a patriotic fool is a curse.

On the "lobbed missiles at Iran"- so because the Iranian military made you believe in its myth of invincibility you believed Iran is completely impregnable? Get real and pls relax from your anxiety, you sound like Iran lost a war.

I will write more on how Iran and Mandy pdfers took their eyes off Pakistan as a potential enemy of Iran.

 

[Tehrani021]

No nation, especially one with nuclear capabilities, would allow another country to encroach on its territorial integrity. If you think Pakistan would not have responded if you had SU-35's and Nuclear weapons then you're absolutely wrong. Despite India possessing over 100 nuclear weapons, more than 500 fighter jets, and one of the world's largest armies, this did not stop Pakistan from retaliating in 2019. Please stop acting like Iran is US. There is a huge difference between a hyper power like US and smaller nations like Iran, Pakistan or India. I can't take your stance of fighting terrorism as serious because Iran being a leading financier of terrorism across Middle East (Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq) doesn't really have a leg to stand on.

No other nuclear power has terrorists who cross into their neighbours borders other than Pakistan. So you can't hold yourself to such standards simply for having a few wareheads when everything else looks like more backwards than Iran. Had you hit IRGC, even without Iran having Nukes or an airforce, Iran would have responded. So having nukes and airforce would make the situation even easier for Iran. Sorry, Iranian "terrorists" fight against Isis and Mossad to rid terrorists and genocidal maniacs from the region, whilst other terrorists blow themselves up, engaged in illegal smuggling and assassinate government officials. Your definition of terrorism is zionist and wrong! You may see yourself as a serf to the US, but Iran does not and we dont need you or anyone to tell us how to see ourselves when your own backyard is a breeding ground for actual terror, not the "terror" that fights evil.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Brothers this is mean to be a chill thread?

we are Iranians, this is us being chilled

 

[925boy]

I second that.
But bro you must accept that the initial extreme step taken by Iran towards a friendly brother Islamic country pakistan was highly irresponsible and arrogant.

Pakistan has stopped actually being friendly brotherly to Iran since the US govt bought the Pakistani national govt out by bribing its parliament. Iran hit Jundollah since 2010 or so, but Pakistan is still hosting that group because of cash bribes from US ,Israel and the Saudis. Iran vs Pakistan has little to do with Islam today. More to come.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Not if the Indian ships are heading to Israeli ports to support Israel! That's a violation of the houthi army's current Red sea policy for Gaza and Houthis will not agree to an exception because of an Iranian request.

kindly look at what I wrote again:

"Iran should ask Houthis to give safe passage to Indian ships not heading to / returning from Israel, if this is not already the case"

@randompk @Tehrani021 please stop this pointless back and forth

 

[Persian Gulf]

Anyone know more about this? They are referencing Bloomberg, but the article requires a subscription.

Iran has enough highly enriched uranium for several nuclear warheads, reports IAEA

Iran possesses enough highly enriched uranium to create several nuclear warheads, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), reported Bloomberg on Jan. 18.

english.nv.ua

Here is another one:

Iran Can Build 'Several' Nukes With Current Uranium Stockpiles, UN Says

The head of the UN's atomic energy agency says Iran has enough stockpiled uranium to build 'several' nuclear weapons.

themessenger.com

this is basically old news and has been the case for a long time

very short summary: you need 10-30 kg of uranium enriched to 90% (HEU) to build a nuclear warhead. Iran is accumulating uranium enriched at 3-5%, 20% and 60% every day, and this can be easily further enriched to 90% if Iran decides to pursue nuclear warheads. the more uranium at higher levels of enrichment (i.e. 20% and 60%) that Iran accumulates, the quicker Iran can assemble an arsenal of nuclear warheads.

so when the IAEA or someone says Iran has enough enriched uranium for X amount of nuclear warheads, they mean for example that Iran has 100kg of 60% enriched uranium, which would become c. 66kg if enriched further to 90%, which is sufficient for 3-6 nuclear warheads. same logic applies to uranium enriched to 20%, except that takes a bit longer to enrich further to 90% and you lose more of it

 

[925boy]

Pakistan and Iran need to form a joint border security force, and fight terrorism, separatism together but its not easy because Pakistan is close to GCC whilst Iran is close to India. Its also difficult to finish low level insurgency, they possibly walk 1000km go attack the troops and then hide in no man's land.

Iran already suggested all these to Pakistan, but Pakistan said no, and they were all going to benefit Pakistan(still makes NO sense why Pakistan said no to the IP gas pipeline -- it wouldve gotten a better economy ). Recently, Pakistan got broke and then got desperate for any cash, so it has sold its govt's soul and sovereignty to highest bidders $$$.- US ,China and Saudis. So now that US has bought out Pakistan(mostly), it is now using it to attack Iran, just like US is using Ukraine to "ram "Russia. Pakistan will have a high cost to pay in the future to get their real govt back, same with Ukraine.

 

[Nilgiri]

Hey @925boy , long time since we chatted. Good to see you here.

You didnt have your old account info restored here?

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

No nation, especially one with nuclear capabilities, would allow another country to encroach on its territorial integrity. If you think Pakistan would not have responded if you had SU-35's and Nuclear weapons then you're absolutely wrong. Despite India possessing over 100 nuclear weapons, more than 500 fighter jets, and one of the world's largest armies, this did not stop Pakistan from retaliating in 2019. Please stop acting like Iran is US. There is a huge difference between a hyper power like US and smaller nations like Iran, Pakistan or India. I can't take your stance of fighting terrorism as serious because Iran being a leading financier of terrorism across Middle East (Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq) doesn't really have a leg to stand on.

The Sunni terrorist organizations has no connection to Iran

Hezbollah is a popular anti zionist organization that defeated the zionists for two times

First in 2000 when zionists pigs ran away from occupied parts of Lebanon and second in 2006 when they defeated zionists and didn't let one inch of Lebanon become occupied again

A faithful armed group by Iran did what the whole Arab countries couldn't do in 6 days war against zionists and they lost their lands to zionists

And about Ansarallah. The majority of Yemenis are Zaidi and they want to have a government that is chosen by their own people NOT a government that US or PGCC regimes chose for them

They fought back Saudi aggression for 8 years and now they're an anti zionist state which fight against zionists, British and the US while the rest of Arab countries excluding Iranian allies are serving for west

So whatever you wrote is nonsense