American man reveals Indian CEO took over a firm, booted out founders, hired Indians. Post goes viral amid H1B visa debate

[hussain0216]

@UKBengali

Indians in U.K. and US aligned with the far right to demonise Muslims and prominent Brexiters thus pissed off europeans.

Looks like the far right is now turning against Indians over visas.

Have they overplayed their hand like Modi did with Hasina lol

We always knew this, it's was crazy the pa jeets simping for white supremacists or Zionists


When migration is very targeted and they allow a tiny amount of educated Indians in they can just about get away, when they open the floor gates and the average low class Indian turns up then they bring UP, Bihar, and all the rest of it here



And now people are waking up, let the west do their thing



It's our job to make sure the Muslim world wakes up and realises these Hindus are the enemy that cannot be tolerated



From Indonesia to Malaysia to the GCC the Indians are a threat, a 5th column spreading propaganda against Muslims



Never trust them

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Elon Musk Says H-1B Visa System "Broken", Days After "Will Go To War" Promise

Elon Musk and Indian-American tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy have recently clashed with supporters of Donald Trump over the issue of immigration and H-1B visas.

Edited by: Pushkar Tiwari | World News
Dec 30, 2024 09:21 am IST

Elon Musk said H-1B visa system can be "easily fixed"

Days after vowing to "go to war" to defend the H-1B visas, tech billionaire Elon Musk on Sunday said the system, which is used to bring skilled foreign workers to the US, is "broken" and needs a "major reform".

Mr Musk and Indian-American tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy have recently clashed with supporters of US President-elect Donald Trump over the issue of immigration.

Mr Musk and Mr Ramaswamy, who are set to be part of the incoming Trump administration, have backed the H-1B visa program.

In response to a post on X, the social media site he owns, Mr Musk said he has "been very clear" that the program is "broken" and "needs major reform". He was responding to a user who said the US needs to be a destination for the "world's most elite talent", but the H-1B program "isn't the way to do that".

Mr Musk, who himself migrated from South Africa on an H-1B, said the system can be "easily fixed" by raising the minimum salary significantly and adding a yearly cost for maintaining the H-1B, making it "materially more expensive to hire from overseas than domestically".

Last week, Mr Musk said bringing elite engineering talent from abroad was "essential for America to keep winning."

Mr Ramaswamy, the son of Indian immigrants, also echoed Mr Musk's sentiments. He argued that the US culture has long celebrated "mediocrity over excellence".

"A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ... will not produce the best engineers," he posted on X.

Debate Over H-1B Visas

Many of Donald Trump's supporters have been increasingly pushing for scrapping the H-1B visa programme amid debate over immigration. The matter flared up after Trump chose Indian-American entrepreneur Sriram Krishnan as an adviser on artificial intelligence policy in his coming administration.

Laura Loomer, a right-wing influencer, criticised Trump's selection, along with far-right figures like Ann Coulter and former Congressman Matt Gaetz.

She accused Mr Musk and Mr Ramaswamy of undermining American workers.

One viral post on X accused Mr Krishnan as an "India First" operative whose goal was to "replace American workers."

"Looking forward to the inevitable divorce between President Trump and Big Tech," Ms Loomer, a MAGA figure known for her conspiracy theories, said.

"We have to protect President Trump from the technocrats," she said.

Mr Musk fired back at his critics and warned of a "MAGA civil war."

He also swore at one critic, saying, "I will go to war on this issue."

Trump Backs Musk In H-1B Visa Debate

Donald Trump has sided with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy in the public dispute over the use of the H-1B visa, saying he fully backs the program for foreign tech workers opposed by some of his supporters.

Trump, who moved to limit the visas' use during his first presidency, told The New York Post on Saturday he was likewise in favour of the visa program.

"I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I've been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It's a great program," he was quoted as saying.

Elon Musk Says H-1B Visa System "Broken", Days After "Will Go To War" Promise

Elon Musk and Indian-American tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy have recently clashed with supporters of Donald Trump over the issue of immigration and H-1B visas.

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[UKBengali]

@UKBengali

Indians in U.K. and US aligned with the far right to demonise Muslims and prominent Brexiters thus pissed off europeans.

Looks like the far right is now turning against Indians over visas.

Have they overplayed their hand like Modi did with Hasina lol

Of course they have overplayed their hand.

They cleverly used Brexit to manipulate opportunists like Boris Johnson to open the floodgates to Indian "students" and "workers" to come to the UK. Then it was out in the open when they got their own man Sunak into 10 Downing Street.

Remember that buffoon BJ in 2020/2021 claiming that the UK had an "IT Skills shortage" in order to to argue the need to allow in the importation of thousands of India "IT Experts". As if the UK does not have thousands of IT workers who either already possses the skills or quickly could not be trained up.

Problem is that before Brexit the UK had the right skillset coming in from the EU like plumbers, builders etc and the Indians are only causing harm as their skillsets do not match what the UK needs. The numbers are so huge that you cannot escape them anywhere these days.

EU freedom of movement was working rather well(apart from the annoying Romanian Gypsies) but then they had to mess it all up by leaving!

Even Farage knows that he cannot justify this level of Indian immigration and so is distancing himself from this as both the working class and middle-class whites want Indian and immigration from other countries like Nigeria to be massively reduced.

 

[r3alist]

Engineers yes but are you sure about doctors? Asking because the profession of medicine requires hard work.

Are you saying UK doctors do not work hard?

 

[r3alist]

Based on the below, actual real events and different events, anyone willing to say there is zero problem at all with h1b?

This affects Americans, hence why discussed here

Blame Pakistan for this?

Silicon Valley Has a Caste Discrimination Problem

Dalit Indians working at U.S. tech companies tell VICE News they try to hide their identities to avoid caste-based discrimination they thought they had left behind.

www.vice.com

Indian corporation pays record $34 million fine to settle allegations of systemic visa fraud and abuse of immigration processes

Infosys Limited, an Indian company involved in consulting, technology and outsourcing, has agreed to a record $34 million civil settlement based on allegations of systemic visa fraud and abuse of immigration processes, and also agreed to enhanced corporate compliance measures.

www.ice.gov

Duane Morris LLP - IT Firm Found Liable for Intentional Discrimination Against a Class of Terminated Non-Indian and Non-South Asian Employees

www.duanemorris.com

H-1B fraud growing, openly discussed online

In depth: How do you solve a problem like a visa? How do you catch a fraud and bring it down?

www.theregister.com

The first thing I showed is that this phenomenon is not exclusive to one group. It exists in all groups. It is a typical labor-management conflict. This phenomenon is prevalent in the lower and middle classes of human society. It is based on the most basic human instinct for survival.
The human instinct is to find an environment more suitable for survival. When a person enters an unfamiliar environment, he or she will instinctively choose the environment in which he or she is better adapted to survive. When the group is large enough, they will establish their own unique their most comfortable survival environment. For example. Chinese “Chinatowns” around the world are typical of this phenomenon. Blacks have also established a distinct black community in Guangzhou, China. Hong Kong also has a South Asian neighborhood.
When a boss hires a CEO, the fastest and most effective way for that CEO to ensure that the boss's mission is accomplished is to use the employee he knows best and trusts most. If he comes from a particular community, he is of course most familiar with and trusts the people in his community.
This truth is common to any group of people all over the world.
I (a Sichuanese) once worked for a Hong Kong-owned company in Shenzhen. The boss was from Hong Kong. The boss appreciated very much the hardworking character of Sichuanese people, so he appointed some Sichuanese people to be the management. He spent most of his time in Hong Kong and rarely in Shenzhen. The whole company has slowly formed a culture that “whether one can understand Sichuanese has become the unspoken rule in recruiting employees; whether one can speak Sichuanese has become the unspoken rule in promoting employees”. The whole Sichuanese group has completely monopolized the whole company, and the company's management can already make a lot of decisions for the boss. ......
This is the most basic logic of human society. If the boss only has money but no corresponding management and decision-making ability, he is destined to be replaced by someone else. It has nothing to do with what the CEO is. Even if the CEO in this story was Pakistani or Chinese, the end would still be the same.

Secondly. I am certainly aware of the international relations between India, Pakistan and China. But attacking an “enemy country” by attacking an entire community is the stupidest way to attack the public opinion of an “enemy country”. The most effective way to deal with an “enemy country” is to polarize, not to attack the community as a whole.
Attacking the whole community of an “enemy country” will make the other side more united. A precise attack on a specific group of people in the enemy country will cause serious divisions within the enemy country, which will cause the enemy country to attack each other, further depleting the enemy country. The overall strength of the “enemy country” will be further depleted by mutual attacks from within the “enemy country”.
When Western media and politicians attack China, they are more likely to attack the CCP than the entire Chinese community. The elite groups in the Western world manipulate other groups, also by polarizing the internal contradictions of these groups, thus causing serious internal divisions within these groups, and causing them to continue to implode. For example: the Indo-Pakistani conflict, the conflict between Shiites and Sunnis, the conflict between Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, and so on. These contradictions deliberately created by the elite groups of the Western world give rise to all kinds of strife in this world so that they can derive greater benefits from them.

So, we need to calmly face the problem of these social contradictions. We need to deal with these social contradictions by keeping them within appropriate limits, rather than expanding them further into communal contradictions.

I've never wanted to be a “good man”, I don't think I'm a “good man”, and I've never considered being a “good man” to be my goal in life. “Good man” is synonymous with “ stupid” in my philosophy of life!

See the links I posted

It's simple, law's are being broken

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Of course they have overplayed their hand.

They cleverly used Brexit to manipulate opportunists like Boris Johnson to open the floodgates to Indian "students" and "workers" to come to the UK. Then it was out in the open when they got their own man Sunak into 10 Downing Street.

Remember that buffoon BJ in 2020/2021 claiming that the UK had an "IT Skills shortage" in order to to argue the need to allow in the importation of thousands of India "IT Experts". As if the UK does not have thousands of IT workers who either already possses the skills or quickly could not be trained up.

Problem is that before Brexit the UK had the right skillset coming in from the EU like plumbers, builders etc and the Indians are only causing harm as their skillsets do not match what the UK needs. The numbers are so huge that you cannot escape them anywhere these days.

EU freedom of movement was working rather well(apart from the annoying Romanian Gypsies) but then they had to mess it all up by leaving!

Even Farage knows that he cannot justify this level of Indian immigration and so is distancing himself from this as both the working class and middle-class whites want Indian and immigration from other countries like Nigeria to be massively reduced.

Also, white english people are starting to panic more against indians than any other ethnic group as indians are a threat to their wealth and job opportunities. Public talks of curtailing and even stopping indian immigration to the uk is being openly discussed and gaining traction now. For some reason, all other ethnic minorities are also becoming more anti-indian and I am not talking about Pakistanis and Muslims. The indians didn't help themselves when they started vocally supporting the gaza genocide.

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Are you saying UK doctors do not work hard?

Not just the field of medicine. Ask any South Asians who have British and American colleagues, be it in medical field or engineering.

 

[Alter_Ego]

I think UK would benefit a lot if it manages to take in more productive Indian immigrants, and throw the useless Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants into the English Channel

Yes lets start by throwing you out from this forum. That would be a productive start.

 

[UKBengali]

Not just the field of medicine. Ask any South Asians who have British and American colleagues, be it in medical field or engineering.

UK now has lots of home-grown Asian doctors - BD'shis, Pakistanis and Indians that the days of needing imports from India are well and truly over.

They are also starting to fund more places for medical students as well to better match domestic supply and demand.

Of course world class Indian doctors will still be wanted but those will probably prefer to go to the states where the salary and lifestyle is muh better.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Engineers yes but are you sure about doctors? Asking because the profession of medicine requires hard work.

Few family members in medicine - they all say white doctors are failing to secure permanent positions and are angry.

One cousin showed me the number of vacancies against applicants. I was shocked to see it was 1-3!

 

[Alter_Ego]

Of course they have overplayed their hand.

They cleverly used Brexit to manipulate opportunists like Boris Johnson to open the floodgates to Indian "students" and "workers" to come to the UK. Then it was out in the open when they got their own man Sunak into 10 Downing Street.

Remember that buffoon BJ in 2020/2021 claiming that the UK had an "IT Skills shortage" in order to to argue the need to allow in the importation of thousands of India "IT Experts". As if the UK does not have thousands of IT workers who either already possses the skills or quickly could not be trained up.

Problem is that before Brexit the UK had the right skillset coming in from the EU like plumbers, builders etc and the Indians are only causing harm as their skillsets do not match what the UK needs. The numbers are so huge that you cannot escape them anywhere these days.

EU freedom of movement was working rather well(apart from the annoying Romanian Gypsies) but then they had to mess it all up by leaving!

Even Farage knows that he cannot justify this level of Indian immigration and so is distancing himself from this as both the working class and middle-class whites want Indian and immigration from other countries like Nigeria to be massively reduced.

Brexit was the dumbest thing
Polish and other EU workers are highly productive people. Why did UK close the gate to Europeans but open up for Indians. It dosent make any sense.

Same with the US.
Anti mexican policies but open the floodgates for indians.
Canada is gone.
2 million indians in just 3 years, in a tiny populated country like Canada!?? Wth were they thinking.

 

[r3alist]

Not just the field of medicine. Ask any South Asians who have British and American colleagues, be it in medical field or engineering.

By all means weigh in with your view, but the UK sets standards

Working inherently beyond commensurate return is not a good quality by default, it can be the opposite

 

[r3alist]

I think UK would benefit a lot if it manages to take in more productive Indian immigrants, and throw the useless Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants into the English Channel

You call this pick me behaviour

 

[r3alist]

Americans are so JEALOUS


.https://x.com/FoxNews/status/1873416444236415325?t=V5-jnLCgOSQFsq1WQLwonw&s=19

 

[r3alist]

It's meritocracy ..