Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Distant_Observer]

Squeeze Talibs with support to NRF and Pakistan takes Wakhan and durand line becomes recongized border in exchange.

Once Kabul falls Pakistan must dismantle Talib and TTP leadership and infrastructure in border areas. This will be a process.

 

[ghazi52]

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[ghazi52]

The terrorist killed in an operation by Pakistani security forces has been identified as Tariq.

The Afghan terrorist hails from Logar province in Afghanistan.

The suicide bomber, named Tariq, was trained in Afghanistan and was tasked with carrying out suicide bombings in Pakistan.

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[ghazi52]

Failed attempt by Khawarij to infiltrate from Afghanistan border.

1 foreigner sent to hell, 1 foreigner captured alive.

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India is funding TTP, and also Afghan Taliban to keep the region destabilize.

 

[ghazi52]

Despite the Afghan Taliban's claims, terrorism, poverty, and unemployment continue to plague Afghanistan.

Half of Afghanistan's population, particularly women, is living in poverty, according to an international report.

The World Bank reports that 25% of the Afghan population suffers from severe malnutrition in addition to widespread poverty.

According to the World Food Program (WFP), one-third of Afghanistan's population requires urgent food assistance.

Last year, 15.8 million people in Afghanistan were severely affected by poor economic conditions and acute malnutrition, according to an international report.

Child labor has significantly increased due to poverty and the Taliban's policies, as highlighted in another report.

Since the Taliban seized power, many Afghans struggle to secure even basic daily sustenance, international reports indicate.

Additionally, foreign aid intended for impoverished Afghans is often confiscated by the Taliban under the guise of redistribution.

 

[PakAl]

India is funding TTP, and also Afghan Taliban to keep the region destabilize.

@Starlord

What is your analysis on this new Afghan Pakistan war building up. What made Taliban become so anti Pakistan when Taliban know Pakistan influenced the Doha talks, helped cut a deal so the Usa leaves Afghanistan, many members of Taliban shura council were hiding in Pakistan for 20+ years.

So many different reasons could be for the TTP existence, if a nuclear power like Pakistan cannot stop terrorism/extremism in Balochistan and KPK then how can Afghanistan control its territory? and also Afghanistan government fears ttp joining ISIS whom noone talks about how it was funded and salafi ideology spread in certain areas (currently wahabism/salafism is banned in Afghanistan as it breeds ISIS).

One Pakistani analysis was saying Kandhar faction of Taliban which is Afghan nationalist is lenient towards ttp whilst the Haqqani Network faction is pro Pakistan, also the taliban is not all Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan, the Hazaras, minorities, Majority sufi hanafis are also part of the government. It's possible they all do not want war with ttp as they don't represent a threat to Afghanistan. Some even say Pakistan is encouraging Afghanistan to start war with ttp so Afghanistan again is destabilised in order for Pakistan to take advantage. Divide and rule type of situation.

 

[hussain0216]

@Starlord

What is your analysis on this new Afghan Pakistan war building up. What made Taliban become so anti Pakistan when Taliban know Pakistan influenced the Doha talks, helped cut a deal so the Usa leaves Afghanistan, many members of Taliban shura council were hiding in Pakistan for 20+ years.

So many different reasons could be for the TTP existence, if a nuclear power like Pakistan cannot stop terrorism/extremism in Balochistan and KPK then how can Afghanistan control its territory? and also Afghanistan government fears ttp joining ISIS whom noone talks about how it was funded and salafi ideology spread in certain areas (currently wahabism/salafism is banned in Afghanistan as it breeds ISIS).

One Pakistani analysis was saying Kandhar faction of Taliban which is Afghan nationalist is lenient towards ttp whilst the Haqqani Network faction is pro Pakistan, also the taliban is not all Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan, the Hazaras, minorities, Majority sufi hanafis are also part of the government. It's possible they all do not want war with ttp as they don't represent a threat to Afghanistan. Some even say Pakistan is encouraging Afghanistan to start war with ttp so Afghanistan again is destabilised in order for Pakistan to take advantage. Divide and rule type of situation.

They are afghans, they are all haramis

What's to understand? These people have always been Pakistans enemies

Afghanistan under the Taliban is isolated
Afghanistan Republic was connected to numerous countries and thus a greater risk


Whether it Taliban or something else, the Afghans will be afghans


All we can do is constantly defend our borders and keep the Afghans out and keep throwing out as many if the haramis as possible

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

They are afghans, they are all haramis

What's to understand? These people have always been Pakistans enemies

Afghanistan under the Taliban is isolated
Afghanistan Republic was connected to numerous countries and thus a greater risk


Whether it Taliban or something else, the Afghans will be afghans


All we can do is constantly defend our borders and keep the Afghans out and keep throwing out as many if the haramis as possible

The Afghanistan Taliban is Cosying up to India

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[hussain0216]

The Afghanistan Taliban is Cosying up to India

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Noooooo they are not, they hate idol worshippers even more then us, if that's even possible

Basic relations and trade we never had a issue with in the first place

What we had a problem with is India given space to expand embassies etc

We wanted India out of the region, and they were eclipsed losing 20 years of planning and investment

 

[PakAl]

They are afghans, they are all haramis

What's to understand? These people have always been Pakistans enemies

Afghanistan under the Taliban is isolated
Afghanistan Republic was connected to numerous countries and thus a greater risk


Whether it Taliban or something else, the Afghans will be afghans


All we can do is constantly defend our borders and keep the Afghans out and keep throwing out as many if the haramis as possible

Calling them bad names will not change anything, it's best to reply in a civil manner, not offence. So your saying Pakistan felt it's better to have a militia in power than a proper government with full international relations. Pakistan issue has always been no long term policies, when it comes to India or usa we want to hug even when they backstab us but become a lion in front of Afghanistan. Pakistan rulers must find ways to improve relations with Afghanistan or let new people come to power who can sort this mess out. For 20 years people have been praising Taliban but now calling them enemies.

 

[hussain0216]

Calling them bad names will not change anything, it's best to reply in a civil manner, not offence. So your saying Pakistan felt it's better to have a militia in power than a proper government with full international relations. Pakistan issue has always been no long term policies, when it comes to India or usa we want to hug even when they backstab us but become a lion in front of Afghanistan. Pakistan rulers must find ways to improve relations with Afghanistan or let new people come to power who can sort this mess out. For 20 years people have been praising Taliban but now calling them enemies.

They are an enemy, it doesn't matter what we call them

So afghans in whatever form are a threat

In a state form, they had the ability to link up with other states to target Pakistan, the Afghan Republic attempted to use India against Pakistan. And tried to convince the U.S to sanction Pakistan for example

A Afghanistan under the Taliban and isolated is a better option then a connected Afghanistan



Our objective against the Afghan enemy should be to keep them off balance

We have given enough time to the Afghans to behave reasonably

 

[PakAl]

They are an enemy, it doesn't matter what we call them

So afghans in whatever form are a threat

In a state form, they had the ability to link up with other states to target Pakistan, the Afghan Republic attempted to use India against Pakistan. And tried to convince the U.S to sanction Pakistan for example

A Afghanistan under the Taliban and isolated is a better option then a connected Afghanistan

Our objective against the Afghan enemy should be to keep them off balance

We have given enough time to the Afghans to behave reasonably

Maybe Pakistan should explore different allies in Afghanistan. It's the Pashtun who will not accept the border due to pashtuns being divided permanently, this is mainly what breeds all the hatred/attacks. For the 46% Kazakhs/Uzbekhs/Hazaras/Tajikis it's better to accept the border so Pashtun power does not increase, at the moment they do hate Pakistan due to Pakistan historical support for the pashtun and fundamentalists who were educated in Pakistan maddrassas. I mentioned this before, Pakistan needs to hold talks with Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkey and moderate elements within Afghanistan, all should unite on Afghanistan territory should not be used against neighbouring nations, Afghanistan must recognise international borders, must work with neighbouring nations otherwise all should unite and bring down Taliban government or even divide Afghanistan.