PTI freedom movement against Judiciary and Establishment: News, Discussion & Updates

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Circadian Rhythm said:
I saw a Youtube podcast of Ayesha Siddiqui

She said that Right Now
Democracy is essentially over in Pakistan

And the Army is everywhere

Its influence and powers ever increasing
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She told that 10 years ago only to be ridiculed by the PDF crowd. In any case Pakistani army is all Pakistan has got at this point.
 
ARMalik said:
No, He is NOT a duffer. He is a cunning guy - extremely cunning.
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No - it’s more a case of cunning in playing what he knows. This is an entire OTS cabal that has made it to the top - they know moves within the political spectrum based on their understanding of what works and doesn’t work. They are rightly so completely inept when it comes to foreign policy and strategic affairs which is what Ayesha Siddiqua is alluding to.

Its a simple case of experience - the current leader is experienced in traditional political manipulation via his time in the agency with very little to show for in external relations or intelligence gathering beyond borders - leave aside any aspect of analysis.
 
EugeneP said:
If you pardon the expression, in our neck of the woods Ms. Siddiqui would be described anal.
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I agree with her perspective on Afghanistan. To add to this, Nehru and Lord Mountbatten allowed the creation of Pakistan with the idea that it would act as a buffer state between Afghanistan and India. Historically, Indian policymakers were well aware of the challenges posed by Afghanistan. During the British occupation of India, Afghan raiders frequently caused trouble, and the region was difficult to control. Allowing Pakistan’s creation was seen as a strategic solution to these historical issues.
However, this strategy did not work in their favor, and in the last three years, the current incompetent army chief has disastrously shifted Pakistan’s foreign policy. Instead of maintaining Afghanistan as a neutral or cooperative neighbor, he has turned it into an enemy. This is a grave mistake. Historically, Pakistan has always considered India its primary adversary, but suddenly redirecting hostility towards Afghanistan is shortsighted and dangerous.
If we look at history, Afghanistan has always been the “graveyard of empires.” By antagonizing Afghanistan, this foolish leadership is further destabilizing Pakistan. One has to wonder—are they deliberately trying to destroy Pakistan?
 
Oscar said:
No - it’s more a case of cunning in playing what he knows. This is an entire OTS cabal that has made it to the top - they know moves within the political spectrum based on their understanding of what works and doesn’t work. They are rightly so completely inept when it comes to foreign policy and strategic affairs which is what Ayesha Siddiqua is alluding to.

Its a simple case of experience - the current leader is experienced in traditional political manipulation via his time in the agency with very little to show for in external relations or intelligence gathering beyond borders - leave aside any aspect of analysis.
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Oh, absolutely, he’s very cunning—cunning enough to kill his own people right in front of Parliament and the Supreme Court while the whole world watched. Cunning enough to single-handedly destroy the army’s reputation among the people of Pakistan, something no external enemy could have achieved so effectively. And yes, so “cunning” that he uses intelligence resources not for strategic gains or protecting the country, but to spy on people’s private lives and make bedroom videos—what a shining example of brilliance!

His so-called “cunning” is nothing more than blatant incompetence wrapped in arrogance. A leader who thinks this kind of absurd manipulation counts as strategy is only proving how unfit and ridiculous he truly is. If this is their idea of cunning leadership, no wonder Pakistan finds itself in such a mess. It’s a comedy of errors, led by someone whose stupidity is rivaled only by his inflated ego.
 
Cash gk said:
Oh, absolutely, he’s very cunning—cunning enough to kill his own people right in front of Parliament and the Supreme Court while the whole world watched. Cunning enough to single-handedly destroy the army’s reputation among the people of Pakistan, something no external enemy could have achieved so effectively. And yes, so “cunning” that he uses intelligence resources not for strategic gains or protecting the country, but to spy on people’s private lives and make bedroom videos—what a shining example of brilliance!

His so-called “cunning” is nothing more than blatant incompetence wrapped in arrogance. A leader who thinks this kind of absurd manipulation counts as strategy is only proving how unfit and ridiculous he truly is. If this is their idea of cunning leadership, no wonder Pakistan finds itself in such a mess. It’s a comedy of errors, led by someone whose stupidity is rivaled only by his inflated ego.
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Olympus81 said:
One does not need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Army chief tenure is 10 years now. With SIFC the army is deeply involved in economic and investment decisions. Army deeply involved in contracting business thanks to FWO, NLC etc. And then you have the cereal, fertilizer, real estate, tanker business who’re run by them.
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He will be retired only when he will face the fate of Zia… this is how dictators leave power
 
Duffer is putting his brother in-charge
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Now this is next level
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ARMalik said:
No, He is NOT a duffer. He is a cunning guy - extremely cunning.
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I don't have much confidence in the politicans and majority of the issues are because of their incompetence.

The army can't afford to wait for the squabbling politicans to reach a consensus. If it wasn't for the army Pakistan would have been as dysfunctional as a south american country.

We are heading into uncertain times. They should redirect the entire budget to the army so they can make ICBM, nuclear submarines and launch their own sattelites.
 
Cash gk said:
He will be retired only when he will face the fate of Zia… this is how dictators leave power
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If only he goes against the colonial agenda which zia mistakenly did and the duffer Munira has no intention of doing.
 
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