The Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict

Turkey has never ever provided military equipment to Azerbaijan free of charge. Fyi, Azerbaijan has a military budget of more than 5 billion usd. It also has a $80 billion sovereign fund.

Armenia on the other hand actually recieved Russian equipment free of charge in many instances (second hand equipment withdrawn from service such as S-300PS), or purchased equipment with reduced prices (as a CSTO member) and interest free long term loans.

What is so unusual about advisors? Currently there are French military advisors in Armenian army, this is public info. Aren’t there foreign advisors in Greek army?

They deny it because there is no proof other than Armenian claims. This comes from the same side that claimed to be winning the war.

The Russians were actively helping Armenia in the war too, they just weren't willing to send russian troops into Azerbaijan. They sent weapons shipments, and intelligence and even moved Russian troops to the border of Azerbaijan.

Russia even sent Wagner(which Putin later admitted were part of Russian MoD in a speech after the Prigozhin incident.) into Karabakh.

They also transported Syrian and Lebanese Armenian fighters and others that were willing to fight Turkey(PKK Operatives) via flights.

 
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He is lying and twisting things, but you will just swallow it without asking him for proof.

No proof of "military advisors" physically located inside Karabakh.

There is no Proof of F-16s shooting down any Armenian aircraft. Complete lie.

Turkey sold weapons to Azerbaijan and helped them build their army, but so did the Israelis. Infact in terms of money, Israelis sold them more weapons.
I hope one day Turkey could lead muslim world. Wellfare to palestinians, human values along the entire muslim world and progress. Really. The other day I was listening Muslum singer and liked very much. Don't get angry at me. I don't like at all Erdogan but respect your country.
 
Syrian militias to bolster Azerbaijan during the war

This one is also misrepresented, Azerbaijan paid them and their task was to hold territories in the rear, as a holding force, while Azeri commandos went forwards and pushed Armenian army outside of Karabakh.

Armenia got help from Wagner and Syrian/Lebanese Armenian volunteers as well, as well as PKK fighters.

Wagner fighters were uploading pics of themselves in Shusha.

 
He is lying and twisting things, but you will just swallow it without asking him for proof.

No proof of "military advisors" physically located inside Karabakh.

There is no Proof of F-16s shooting down any Armenian aircraft. Complete lie.

Turkey sold weapons to Azerbaijan and helped them build their army, but so did the Israelis. Infact in terms of money, Israelis sold them more weapons.
I imagine hyperman with a sad face going like "That's a lie! He is lying and twisting things! It's not true! It's not true! Turkey only gave Azeris a pat in the back! Nothing else!"

Dude....COME ON! You have to be extremely naive to think Turkey didn't play a role in the war. Turkey and Azerbaijan have joint exercises in the summer,Turkey "forgets" to remove some aircraft and military personnel and in Autumn the war starts. If you're not naive,then you just have to be a hypocrite not accepting that Erdogan helped Azerbaijan.
 
Armenia got help from Wagner and Syrian/Lebanese Armenian volunteers as well, as well as PKK fighters.
Syrian/Lebanese and USA Armenian volutneers yes. As for Wagner and PKK,that's the first time I see it.

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I imagine hyperman with a sad face going like "That's a lie! He is lying and twisting things! It's not true! It's not true! Turkey only gave Azeris a pat in the back! Nothing else!"

Dude....COME ON! You have to be extremely naive to think Turkey didn't play a role in the war. Turkey and Azerbaijan have joint exercises in the summer,Turkey "forgets" to remove some aircraft and military personnel and in Autumn the war starts. If you're not naive,then you just have to be a hypocrite not accepting that Erdogan helped Azerbaijan.

There were also rumors that some Turkish commandos were embedded into the Azeri armed forces and it is also very hard to differentiate between Turks and Azeris
 
I imagine hyperman with a sad face going like "That's a lie! He is lying and twisting things! It's not true! It's not true! Turkey only gave Azeris a pat in the back! Nothing else!"

Dude....COME ON! You have to be extremely naive to think Turkey didn't play a role in the war. Turkey and Azerbaijan have joint exercises in the summer,Turkey "forgets" to remove some aircraft and military personnel and in Autumn the war starts. If you're not naive,then you just have to be a hypocrite not accepting that Erdogan helped Azerbaijan.

Of course Turkey played a role. The other guy was saying Turkey attacked Armenia or had troops in Karabakh fighting Armenia. Which is incorrect.

And who said they "forgot to remove", Turkey sent the aircraft to Ganja explicitly so that the pipeline that supplies Turkey with Gas wouldn't get bombed. Those Aircraft stayed at the base as a warning to not bomb the pipeline and as a deterrent to any third part that would intervene/invade Azerbaijan.

You did lie by implying there were Turkish troops inside Karabakh. As well as saying Turkish F-16s shot down Armenian aircraft. Which is complete fantasy.

If Turkish F-16s had shot down an Armenian aircraft that would be reported by the State Dept in briefings to Congress and other matters.
 
There were also rumors that some Turkish commandos were embedded into the Azeri armed forces and it is also very hard to differentiate between Turks and Azeris

Its false, "rumors", i can make up stuff too.
 
Syrian/Lebanese and USA Armenian volutneers yes. As for Wagner and PKK,that's the first time I see it.

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Here is an actual real picture.

Wagner fighters uploading their own pics from Shusha, inside Azerbaijan.




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You did lie by implying there were Turkish troops inside Karabakh. As well as saying Turkish F-16s shot down Armenian aircraft. Which is complete fantasy.

“Both during the preparations and active phases of the military exercises the F-16s were carrying out active operations, training flights along the entire length of the Armenia and Artsakh state borders, mostly at the Ganja-Vardenis, Ganja-Karvajar, Ganja-Martakert, Stepanakert and Hadrut directions. After the end of the military exercises these aircraft did not return to Turkey and remained stationed at the Ganja airbase [in Azerbaijan],” he said.


Then, on September 23, the Turkish Air Force command executed a change of shift of crew and technical personnel of the F-16s in the Ganja airfield. Movsesyan said this re-flight from Turkey to Azerbaijan was carried out through Georgian airspace.


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“At 16:00, September 23 the aircrafts of the changed shift carried out the flight from Ganja through Georgian territory, to reposition in their permanent deployment airbase. From the very first day of the offensive operations that Azerbaijan unleashed on September 27, the Turkish Air Force F-16s have been actively engaged in aerial missions, that is – the bombing and air strikes of territories and facilities in the Republic of Armenia and Republic of Artsakh,” Movsesyan said.


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“On September 27, two Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jets breached the airspace of the Republic of Armenia up to 6km in depth in order to carry out the air strikes at the Mets Masrik and Sotk settlements in the Ganja-Sotk-Vardenis air route,” he said, citing radar data.


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He reminded the downing of the Armenian SU-25 aircraft, when on September 29, around 12:16, two F-16s flying near the Mingachevir reservoir [Azerbaijan], detected an Armenian Air Force SU-25 which was on-duty flying deep inside the territory of Armenia towards the border, headed towards the state border and shot down the Armenian SU-25 from approximately 60km distance from the border. It was after this attack that the Armenian authorities officially announced that Turkey is directly participating and involving its air force in the attacks.


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“With the purpose of concealing their further actions, on October 3 Azerbaijan re-stationed the F-16s from the Ganja airbase to the Gabala airbase,” Movsesyan said, adding that after this the Turkish Air Force started operating jointly with the Azeri air force, whereas before that it was acting separately.


Movsesyan says their analysis of the actions of the Turkish F-16s during the 18 days of attacks concludes that these Turkish warplanes’ mission is the following: the coordination of the Azerbaijani air force operations, air support and cover to the Azeri military in their missile and bomb strikes at the territories of Armenia and Artsakh.


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Editing and Translating by Stepan Kocharyan


Published by Armenpress, original at https://armenpress.am/en/article/1031687

Besides,Aliyev also lied about Syrian mercenaries being in Azerbaijan...

Claims regarding Syrian fighters​


Aliyev also denied allegations that fighters were brought to Azerbaijan from Syria to battle Armenian forces. “This is another [piece of] fake news. There are no fighters from Syria. There is no evidence of this. This is Armenian propaganda spread over the internet and by different media outlets.” “With a population of 10 million versus 2 million in Armenia, we have enough human resources,” he added.

 
“Both during the preparations and active phases of the military exercises the F-16s were carrying out active operations, training flights along the entire length of the Armenia and Artsakh state borders, mostly at the Ganja-Vardenis, Ganja-Karvajar, Ganja-Martakert, Stepanakert and Hadrut directions. After the end of the military exercises these aircraft did not return to Turkey and remained stationed at the Ganja airbase [in Azerbaijan],” he said.


Then, on September 23, the Turkish Air Force command executed a change of shift of crew and technical personnel of the F-16s in the Ganja airfield. Movsesyan said this re-flight from Turkey to Azerbaijan was carried out through Georgian airspace.


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“At 16:00, September 23 the aircrafts of the changed shift carried out the flight from Ganja through Georgian territory, to reposition in their permanent deployment airbase. From the very first day of the offensive operations that Azerbaijan unleashed on September 27, the Turkish Air Force F-16s have been actively engaged in aerial missions, that is – the bombing and air strikes of territories and facilities in the Republic of Armenia and Republic of Artsakh,” Movsesyan said.


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“On September 27, two Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jets breached the airspace of the Republic of Armenia up to 6km in depth in order to carry out the air strikes at the Mets Masrik and Sotk settlements in the Ganja-Sotk-Vardenis air route,” he said, citing radar data.


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He reminded the downing of the Armenian SU-25 aircraft, when on September 29, around 12:16, two F-16s flying near the Mingachevir reservoir [Azerbaijan], detected an Armenian Air Force SU-25 which was on-duty flying deep inside the territory of Armenia towards the border, headed towards the state border and shot down the Armenian SU-25 from approximately 60km distance from the border. It was after this attack that the Armenian authorities officially announced that Turkey is directly participating and involving its air force in the attacks.


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“With the purpose of concealing their further actions, on October 3 Azerbaijan re-stationed the F-16s from the Ganja airbase to the Gabala airbase,” Movsesyan said, adding that after this the Turkish Air Force started operating jointly with the Azeri air force, whereas before that it was acting separately.


Movsesyan says their analysis of the actions of the Turkish F-16s during the 18 days of attacks concludes that these Turkish warplanes’ mission is the following: the coordination of the Azerbaijani air force operations, air support and cover to the Azeri military in their missile and bomb strikes at the territories of Armenia and Artsakh.


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Editing and Translating by Stepan Kocharyan


Published by Armenpress, original at https://armenpress.am/en/article/1031687

Besides,Aliyev also lied about Syrian mercenaries being in Azerbaijan...

Claims regarding Syrian fighters​


Aliyev also denied allegations that fighters were brought to Azerbaijan from Syria to battle Armenian forces. “This is another [piece of] fake news. There are no fighters from Syria. There is no evidence of this. This is Armenian propaganda spread over the internet and by different media outlets.” “With a population of 10 million versus 2 million in Armenia, we have enough human resources,” he added.


Eurasiantimes lmao. They have less credibiltiy than GreekCity.

The is the problem, you take half truths and then twist. There is a wide gap between F-16s being stationed at an airport(outside of karabakh) near a gas pipeline junction, and them shooting down an Armenian aircraft.

If such a shootdown happened, show the Air to Air Missile Debris or the bombs. They were able to show TB2 and MAM-L debris. show AIM-120 debris or something similar. Its nonsense.

I assure you, if something that had happened, there would be a congressional report. Congress is required by the state dept to be briefed on weapons supplied by the US to Turkey used in War. The Armenian lobby is quite strong in the US. If it was remotely true, the Armenian Lobby in the US would have made a huge scene over it.

They are lying. Pashinyan was claiming that Turks did the attack in Austria(there was a daesh incident at the same time) and that it was Turkey's plan to attack Europe.

Then he Claimed Syrian fighters were going to Azeri Villages and they had banned alcohol and were giving trouble to Azeri Women, and all sorts of nonsense.
 
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According to our intelligence, when they arrived in Azerbaijan, they first tried to ban the sale of alcohol and introduce Sharia rules.

This is from their government website. An official statement from the Prime Minister. You don't know how much of a clown show this country is.

He Claimed Turkey was behind the Attack in Austria as well.


This is the attack in question


He Blamed Turkey for it saying, Turkey is again at the gates of Vienna or some BS, and how Europe needs to support Christian Armenia in the War, and all sorts of Evocations of Clash of Civilizations BS.
 
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False flag armenian post, show the Azeri who posted this as "Armenian vehicle
That pic was from my Armenian friend's story,he had a respected account on twitter for geopolitics back then and he used to post on instagram a lot of stories about the war,pashinyan's government and other things concerning the region. Both from his sources and from other accounts. Unfortunately,I didn't save enough. I should have saved WAY WAY more back then,I only kept a few dozen screenshots.

But,it's not the first time Turks mess up flags and letters
Eurasiantimes lmao. They have less credibiltiy than GreekCity.
The quote was from Aliyev...not from Eurasiantimes.

If such a shootdown happened, show the Air to Air Missile Debris or the bombs. They were able to show TB2 and MAM-L debris. show AIM-120 debris or something similar. Its nonsense.

I assure you, if something that had happened, there would be a congressional report. Congress is required by the state dept to be briefed on weapons supplied by the US to Turkey used in War. The Armenian lobby is quite strong in the US. If it was remotely true, the Armenian Lobby in the US would have made a huge scene over it.
What if they agreed to cover it up? Since Russians seemed to be ok with whatever happened and in the end Azeris got what they wanted.
 
ou don't know how much of a clown show this country is.
What I can agree with is that Pashinyan's government is a circus. That's beyond doubt. At least the cabinet up to the end of the war,was a complete circus.
 

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