Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

tsunset said:
One day Iran is a threat to the entire world and is going to blow up the earth soon

Another day Iran is weak and has nothing to defend itself and is free to be invaded

Between these two days, nothing is done to back up their claims let alone any action

Schrodinger Iran, mastered by the US and Israel

I wonder what was their reaction when they saw their own real satellite imagery showing Iran air defenses intact across the country, i doubt they are believing in their own lies

Lying is in westerners genes
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Regardless of the capability of Iran currrently on what is there, or not, it is dangerous that they think that within the context of starting a war, right ?

Their assesments may be wrong, but if they choose to act on them, then they are all in - regardless of how it goes for them. The goal it seems is to "trip" and "trick" the USA into a war with Iran, and once the USA is there, it will be "stuck" in that war until the war exhausts itself.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Regardless of the capability of Iran currrently on what is there, or not, it is dangerous that they think that within the context of starting a war, right ?

Their assesments may be wrong, but if they choose to act on them, then they are all in - regardless of how it goes for them. The goal it seems is to "trip" and "trick" the USA into a war with Iran, and once the USA is there, it will be "stuck" in that war until the war exhausts itself.
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We have to wonder what incentives Trump offered Netanyahu to agree to the ceasefire. How much of it was a stick and how much carrot?
 
tsunset said:
One day Iran is a threat to the entire world and is going to blow up the earth soon

Another day Iran is weak and has nothing to defend itself and is free to be invaded

Between these two days, nothing is done to back up their claims let alone any action

Schrodinger Iran, mastered by the US and Israel

I wonder what was their reaction when they saw their own real satellite imagery showing Iran air defenses intact across the country, i doubt they are believing in their own lies

Lying is in westerners genes
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Holy Quran has spoken on these people. They have an imperceptible sickness in their hearts. Here :

Al-Baqarah (10-20)
*** 10. In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they [incur], because they are false [to themselves].

11. When it is said to them: “Make not mischief on the earth,” they say: “Why, we only Want to make peace!”

12. Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise [it] not.

13. When it is said to them: “Believe as the others believe:” They say: “Shall we believe as the fools believe?” Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know.

14. When they meet those who believe, they say: “We believe;” but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say: “We are really with you: We [were] only jesting.”

15. Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones [To and fro].

16. These are they who have bartered Guidance for error: But their traffic is profitless, and they have lost true direction,

17. Their similitude is that of a man who kindled a fire; when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in utter darkness. So they could not see.

18. Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return [to the path].

19. Or [another similitude] is that of a rain-laden cloud from the sky: In it are zones of darkness, and thunder and lightning: They press their fingers in their ears to keep out the stunning thunder-clap, the while they are in terror of death. But Allah is ever round the rejecters of Faith!

20. The lightning all but snatches away their sight; every time the light [Helps] them, they walk therein, and when the darkness grows on them, they stand still. And if Allah willed, He could take away their faculty of hearing and seeing; for Allah hath power over all things.***

Beautifully described the two faced hypocrites.
 
Iran did what it could and that has to be commended

Iran was on its own and hit Israel, if even 1 or 2 more islamic nations could have done what Iran did it would have helped a lot

Iran lost Hezbollah in this war and so far it seems Syria too

Iran needs to rebuild and re-arm and they need to take the lessons from this war and do it quickly
 
Aziqbal said:
Iran did what it could and that has to be commended

Iran was on its own and hit Israel, if even 1 or 2 more islamic nations could have done what Iran did it would have helped a lot

Iran lost Hezbollah in this war and so far it seems Syria too

Iran needs to rebuild and re-arm and they need to take the lessons from this war and do it quickly
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You say: Iran must rebuild and rearm

Question: Do you live in the woods, in an isolated place?

Because in the real city, we know that Iran is full of weapons
 
Mr Iran Eye said:
You say: Iran must rebuild and rearm

Question: Do you live in the woods, in an isolated place?

Because in the real city, we know that Iran is full of weapons
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you know what I mean

Syria is gone the land bridge to Hezbollah is gone and also all the resistance weakened
 
Aziqbal said:
you know what I mean

Syria is gone the land bridge to Hezbollah is gone and also all the resistance weakened
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Iran is still a major power capable of inflicting catastrophic damage to Israel even without Hezbollah...and even without the Houthis, for that matter.

Iran literally has thousands upon thousands of ballistic missiles...

A mass bombardment with full force can, like the above poster mentioned, knock out most of Israel's key facilities and US bases occupying the Middle East simultaneously.

Therefore, they'd be digging their own graves if they attacked Iran's nuclear facilities...
 
StrategicBear said:
Iran is still a major power capable of inflicting catastrophic damage to Israel even without Hezbollah...and even without the Houthis, for that matter.

Iran literally has thousands upon thousands of ballistic missiles...

A mass bombardment with full force can, like the above poster mentioned, knock out most of Israel's key facilities and US bases occupying the Middle East simultaneously.

Therefore, they'd be digging their own graves if they attacked Iran's nuclear facilities...
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Attacking nuke sites is only propaganda and papers to sell. Iran has infras under the ground. Strikes is obsolote even in case of tit for tat it would be waste of time on both sides.

Israel can´t do the one thing that is existential threat to Iran that is an incursion. They don´t have the manpower or scale for that.

Iran´s only worry is not some baby strikes but rather an incursion that punches right thru Iraq. If the Americans want to act on their threat strikes will achieve nothing but they will be forced to fight Iran in conventional war aka literally Invading Iran is the only option.

They will need alliances for that which they don´t have in hand. Perhaps there was a tiny political window for that pre-Hamas-Israel war but not anymore. Iran has normalized with everyone in the region hence the Americans can´t gather an alliance against Tehren regionally which takes an incursion off the map for the forseeable future.

There will be no strikes on Iranian sites, nor incursion and especially no war on Iran for the forseeable future. Iran will have a period to reset and a prolonged period of relative peace.
 
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StrategicBear said:
Iran is still a major power capable of inflicting catastrophic damage to Israel even without Hezbollah...and even without the Houthis, for that matter.

Iran literally has thousands upon thousands of ballistic missiles...

A mass bombardment with full force can, like the above poster mentioned, knock out most of Israel's key facilities and US bases occupying the Middle East simultaneously.

Therefore, they'd be digging their own graves if they attacked Iran's nuclear facilities...
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the original comment was about the resistance not Iran
 
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no Operation TP 3 until accuracy of MRBMs improves

good penetration rate but poor accuracy for military utility
 
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no Operation TP 3 until accuracy of MRBMs improves

good penetration rate but poor accuracy for military utility
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What? TP3 can't happen now it has been too long and it will look like crazy radical ayatollahs have lost their minds. All this will do is unleash Israel into maybe even using certain weapons or targeting targets that used to be no-go.

Fix the accuracy of missiles and wait... Israel will do something sooner or later that will give Iran the reason to TP3.
 
SolarWarden said:
What? TP3 can't happen now it has been too long and it will look like crazy radical ayatollahs have lost their minds. All this will do is unleash Israel into maybe even using certain weapons or targeting targets that used to be no-go.

Fix the accuracy of missiles and wait... Israel will do something sooner or later that will give Iran the reason to TP3.
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I didn't say it should happen now. not sure you understood my post at all.
 
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