Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Where there is a will there is a way. Rebuilding can be done with people in Gaza. They have lives the past year and half in tents. Trump’s plan is a trick to just get the people out. It was always about a new Nakba.

But surely there will be international and UN observers and peacekeepers and monitors in place before anything like this happens?

How can you rebuild a place which is a demolition site?
 
Orange clown is only vocalizing what genocide Joe couldn't...
They are however on the same trajectory. He spoke genocide without any qualms... the other one would have facilitated every single thing with a veneer.
Remember genocide wasn't remorseful on his complicity, he simply reconciled it with crumbs from miliekowsky on second world War equivocation. Even the premise was lost and forget the fact an actual genocidal settler colonizer was using that...

No redemption here ...

But there is 2.2 million people in Gaza how can you rebuild this place if everybody is living around the construction site?
 
Then what are they? They're not white, they're not brown, they're not black and they're not East Asians then what are they? Are they in between whites and browns? Are they mixed race?

Good question. I will need to research this a little further before giving an accurate reply.....but they are definitely not pure whites.
 
But there is 2.2 million people in Gaza how can you rebuild this place if everybody is living around the construction site?

Plus a hefty number of professionals are either dead or incapacitated.

It’s hard to see how Gazans can even regain the status they had two years ago.

Faith is good but blind faith is toxic.
 
BREAKING: Agreement reached, Palestinians will be able to cross the Netzarim axis and return to their homes in the north from tomorrow morning

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What is so special about this person versus all of the other hostages ?
 
Orange clown is only vocalizing what genocide Joe couldn't...
They are however on the same trajectory. He spoke genocide without any qualms... the other one would have facilitated every single thing with a veneer.
Remember genocide wasn't remorseful on his complicity, he simply reconciled it with crumbs from miliekowsky on second world War equivocation. Even the premise was lost and forget the fact an actual genocidal settler colonizer was using that...

No redemption here ...

As far as personalities go, I'd agree no difference between Biden vs Trump on Israel/Palestine. But I don't dwell on personalities. No American President--not even Trump--can't totally ignore his 'base' and that's where my argument is and I had given many examples of Democrats--both the Congressmen and the cadre--who have shown significant empathy toward the Palestinians. Some of them, like Cory Bush and Jamaal Bowman--lost their Primaries because of their support to the Palestinians. And as many as 19 Democratic Senators--yes, Senators!--had supported a Resolution calling for harsher restrictions on Israel--that Resolution was not supported by even one Republican. A towering Senator like Chuck Schumer had asked for Netanyahu's resignation on the Senate floor. Also, as many as 35-40% Democratic Congressmen had boycotted Netanyahu's Speech a few months months ago. There are numerous examples from the Democratic camp doing whatever little bit they could given the environment in America and given it was an election year. Now contrast with the Republicans?!!
The choice is indeed binary and one must choose one of them. If you don't choose, then you don't get to complain!
 
But there is 2.2 million people in Gaza how can you rebuild this place if everybody is living around the construction site?

Seriously?
The whole purpose is NOT to rebuild Gaza. To ethnically cleanse it's population.
You think he's proposing to relocate Palestinians to rebuild... and build brand new refugee camps from grounds up in either Egypt or Jordan and then bring them back to a rebuilt Gaza?
 
As far as personalities go, I'd agree no difference between Biden vs Trump on Israel/Palestine. But I don't dwell on personalities. No American President--not even Trump--can't totally ignore his 'base' and that's where my argument is and I had given many examples of Democrats--both the Congressmen and the cadre--who have shown significant empathy toward the Palestinians. Some of them, like Cory Bush and Jamaal Bowman--lost their Primaries because of their support to the Palestinians. And as many as 19 Democratic Senators--yes, Senators!--had supported a Resolution calling for harsher restrictions on Israel--that Resolution was not supported by even one Republican. A towering Senator like Chuck Schumer had asked for Netanyahu's resignation on the Senate floor. Also, as many as 35-40% Democratic Congressmen had boycotted Netanyahu's Speech a few months months ago. There are numerous examples from the Democratic camp doing whatever little bit they could given the environment in America and given it was an election year. Now contrast with the Republicans?!!
The choice is indeed binary and one must choose one of them. If you don't choose, then you don't get to complain!

You're missing the point here... Truman who recognized Zion and made it a state was a Democrat. Early zionists in Israel were the same ... early European Jews were ostracized by being called semites without being one. Being a Jew became synonymous with being a semite and vice versa. It is why you have non religious, atheist, Jews! It didn't matter...
The democrat bandwagon allowed usurping or appropriating minority causes to push own agendas. It became convenient and resonates with minority groups, like African Americans, Latinos, Asians and even Muslims. Along with the ride... to the point where the metastasis reached gender, orientation etc. Lording and goading each for a vote bank... all for the benefit of some...
Schumer is just one such example... a through and through zionist.

The Republican however have the old money and WASPs. The second one would at a great personal expense and cost wouldn't accept Jews, African Americans, Latino, Asians and of course Muslims. But there is a split... one which says we care for neither and shouldn't bother/meddle in their affairs and let them not get involved in ours. It is the core evangelical types and old money guns that have their own perverted interests. None to do with Jews but to have them meet their final solution or make them someone else's problem.

It is a known, known... only kept under a thin veneer... frequently exposing itself. What Jews don't make up in number they gather by appropriating. As an equalizer, one pushing the inevitable down the road... kicking the can. There is no lesser evil here as far as Muslims are concerned because here both see them as scapegoats and chimps... late arrivals who know nothing!
 
Trump and US population doesn’t give a toss about Gaza.

Trump’s first action was to lift the sanctions on the murderous thugs in the occupied territories. Even Zionist Biden was for the sanctions!

And the FBI, under a Sanghi (Kash Patel), has promised to target Palestinian protestors.

So, bro! Am struggling to see your source of optimism??!!!

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Are people so blinded by partisanship that they cannot even see things literally before their eyes and ears!????

If we cannot even agree on the basic facts - how will we agree on solutions?
No one said it would be easy; the civil rights movement wasn’t easy, but they still did it in the face of Nixon and his cronies. If Sanghis are gonna side with Trump, they may have the next 4 years, but will be seen as part of the Trump legacy when the pendulum swings back the other way in 2-4 years, especially if they endorse unconstitutional acts. If Vivek is any indication, Trump will likely use him and ditch him during the administration. The 1st amendment still stands, peaceful protest is still legal.
 
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But surely there will be international and UN observers and peacekeepers and monitors in place before anything like this happens?

How can you rebuild a place which is a demolition site?
With the eyes of the world watching, the media. The constant images coming out will keep the tensions up, stalling other initiatives of governments that want people to forget. If a problem lingers for at least 4-5 years, western populations usually demand a solution.
 
Seriously?
The whole purpose is NOT to rebuild Gaza. To ethnically cleanse it's population.
You think he's proposing to relocate Palestinians to rebuild... and build brand new refugee camps from grounds up in either Egypt or Jordan and then bring them back to a rebuilt Gaza?
Yeah I’m kind of at a loss there as well to his thinking I thought he was joking at first being sarcastic but yeah if these countries actually gave in which I highly doubt it because Jordan would become a defacto Palestinian state by demographics alone and that would cause great turbulence for Abdullah and Egypt unless they were offered 10s of billions of dollars and a written guarantee by Israel and America that they could return…..not going to happen the settlers would invade and rebuild Gaza in less than a year and close off the border
 
What is so special about this person versus all of the other hostages ?
it is debatable but the israeli side is that Hamas suddenly said this prisoner has a military background so we need 30 more Palestinian prisoners for her before we release her

seems the Israelis agreed in a side agreement
 
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