China hits back at Canada with fresh agriculture tariffs

china numah wan tooting its own horn....or the orange boorish buffoon adding to it?

The Chinese contribution for the humanity is also indispensable for your country.

 
Oligarchy eating the masses alive...
Tends to happen the oligarchy captures all sides of the political spectrum. Democrats today were saying they have “good billionaires”, but will these good billionaires stand for the working man?
 
I always wonder why everything looks like war to Americans.
"Tech war". "Space war". "Peace war". "Trade War". the list is endless...
Ironically, the most beligerant people on the planet are Americans.

I have not seen any Chinese media calling "AI War" with USA. Heck, before the "Trade War", China was supplying critical minerals to USA which are essential for their military industrial complex to make weapon. And now after "Trade War" they have lost that supply and are looking alternative sources.

Then they have these American politicians who are so stupid that they cause international incidences to just stoke their ego.

Trump puts teriff on Canada and Mexico for no good reason. Then trump goes all wild telling everyone how he is big and he can force both countries to do whatever he wants. In the end he declares victory with practically nothing extracted from either.

Mexico promises to deploy some 10000 troops on the border.
Canada promises some useless things (which were already there) for border monitoring.

There was no plan to begin with. Just Trump trying to look important.
 
US corporations have only but raked in the profits from outsourcing manufacturing to China, who also have benefited greatly.

Those US corps hollowed out their own industrial base in favour of profits.

Apart from super massive tax cuts, there's little incentive for them to go back to the US.

Keep in mind also that the end user/consumer in the US has not suffered from it. Only the blue collar worker has, Trump's rabid base.

Not sure there is a fix for it.
 
The title should read extra 10% tariff on Chinese goods
 
I always wonder why everything looks like war to Americans.
"Tech war". "Space war". "Peace war". "Trade War". the list is endless...
Ironically, the most beligerant people on the planet are Americans.

I have not seen any Chinese media calling "AI War" with USA. Heck, before the "Trade War", China was supplying critical minerals to USA which are essential for their military industrial complex to make weapon. And now after "Trade War" they have lost that supply and are looking alternative sources.

Then they have these American politicians who are so stupid that they cause international incidences to just stoke their ego.

Trump puts teriff on Canada and Mexico for no good reason. Then trump goes all wild telling everyone how he is big and he can force both countries to do whatever he wants. In the end he declares victory with practically nothing extracted from either.

Mexico promises to deploy some 10000 troops on the border.
Canada promises some useless things (which were already there) for border monitoring.

There was no plan to begin with. Just Trump trying to look important.
If you try to take a calm and objective look at the various “wars” between China and the United States, you will find some strange phenomena.

The United States launched a trade war with China. However, the trade interaction between China and the United States is not down but up, the actual injury is Europe and other countries.

The U.S. took the lead in sanctioning China's electric car industry. However, the electric vehicle industry in China and the U.S. continues to thrive. The automotive traditional car industry in Japan, South Korea and Europe, however, has declined substantially.

The U.S. sanctioned China's communications industry (ZTE, Huawei, etc.). However, the global communications industry is still dominated by China and the US. There are very few of those old communication companies left in Europe, and the remaining two are currently in a state of struggle to survive.

China initiated a ban on rare metals against the US. It's India, Turkey, South Korea that are hurt the most ......

Now, with the US-China AI war, let's see which countries end up getting hurt the most ......
 
Trump has shown who is the boss. He has shown that he doesn't need to play nice and can still get away with it because America is America, the sole superpower in the world.
Lol, Indians always have way more confidence in America than Americans themselves, true slaves.
The sole superpower in what fields? Industrial prowess? manufacturing? global trade? exports? trade surplus? agriculture?
 
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So, do you believe that China has better prepared for a bigger trade war with USA and the entire Western world?
 
Seeing China counter reaction once Trump announce the tariff, I don't think Trump is welcomed by China as what Trump has said.

China counter reaction is truly fierce!

If the relationship between USA and China went bad, there will a huge economic causality.

The unfriendliness of USA is making hard for China to depend on USA, even using USD for international trade.

At the same time is hard for USA to work together with China. As the more USA is tied to China, the stronger China is.
 
The US is about to start a hot war with the entire west world, and cold wars with China.

Notice when trump talk about the idea that the US should annex canada/greenland/panma, China/Russia remain silent? China/Russia did not even try to critize the daylight land grabbing attemps of the US.

The world has changed, national borderlines will change alot in the future, trade wars are for kids comparing to what will be happened.
 

Trump has less leverage over China than during prior trade war - Wells Fargo

AuthorScott Kanowsky
Economy
Published 02/05/2025, 06:16 AM

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Investing.com - U.S. President Donald Trump may have "less leverage" in his recent trade spat with China than during a similar conflict in his prior administration, according to analysts at Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC).

This week, the Trump administration moved to slap a sweeping 10% tariff on all Chinese imports into the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the world's two largest economies.

In response, China’s finance ministry has said it will impose a 15% tariff on coal and liquified natural gas imports from the U.S., and an additional 10% duty on crude oil, agricultural equipment and automobiles from February 10.

Although some observers have noted that Beijing's retaliation was relatively restrained and a potential move to position itself for trade talks, it remains unclear when Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping will speak about the matter. Trump has said he is in no rush to hold the discussions.

In January 2018, Trump, then in his first term in the White House, launched a barrage of tariffs on China over claims that it was conducting unfair trade practices, sparking a tit-for-tat exchange of levies.

Yet Trump's bid to approach the latest possible negotiations with China from a "position of power" may not work as well this time, according to the Wells Fargo analysts. In particular, they flagged that the trading relationship between the U.S. and China is now "significantly weaker" than it was during Trump's initial stint in office. The U.S. is importing less goods from China, while Beijing has established other partnerships with countries in Asia and has set up manufacturing capabilities in Mexico to circumvent U.S. duties, the analysts added.

"[The] U.S. tariff influence may not be as powerful, as China has made some necessary adjustments," the Wells Fargo analysts said in a note to clients. "In fact, an argument can be made the U.S. has become more dependent on China as a source of critical imports."

They added that, even though China's economy has been sputtering in recent months, Beijing's new foreign trading relationships could make officials in the country less incentivized to secure a new trade deal with the U.S.
 
China's export as a percentage of GDP is trending downwards.
As of 2023 it is less than 20%.

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If exports are about 15 percent or less of GDP the economy is considered relatively closed as only 15 percent of its products are sold internationally. That, for example, applies to the U.S. In contrast, many small European countries export over 40 percent of their production. They are considered more open to international trade.
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China's export as a percentage of GDP is trending downwards.
As of 2023 it is less than 20%.

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If exports are about 15 percent or less of GDP the economy is considered relatively closed as only 15 percent of its products are sold internationally. That, for example, applies to the U.S. In contrast, many small European countries export over 40 percent of their production. They are considered more open to international trade.
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That is interesting I didn't know that. It's allot lower than I thought which means domestic consumption has increased over the years.

If China can make from toys, to planes, to microchips all by themselves then the main imports will likely be raw materials and oil/gas.
 

Trump has less leverage over China than during prior trade war - Wells Fargo

AuthorScott Kanowsky
Economy
Published 02/05/2025, 06:16 AM

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Investing.com - U.S. President Donald Trump may have "less leverage" in his recent trade spat with China than during a similar conflict in his prior administration, according to analysts at Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC).

This week, the Trump administration moved to slap a sweeping 10% tariff on all Chinese imports into the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the world's two largest economies.

In response, China’s finance ministry has said it will impose a 15% tariff on coal and liquified natural gas imports from the U.S., and an additional 10% duty on crude oil, agricultural equipment and automobiles from February 10.

Although some observers have noted that Beijing's retaliation was relatively restrained and a potential move to position itself for trade talks, it remains unclear when Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping will speak about the matter. Trump has said he is in no rush to hold the discussions.

In January 2018, Trump, then in his first term in the White House, launched a barrage of tariffs on China over claims that it was conducting unfair trade practices, sparking a tit-for-tat exchange of levies.

Yet Trump's bid to approach the latest possible negotiations with China from a "position of power" may not work as well this time, according to the Wells Fargo analysts. In particular, they flagged that the trading relationship between the U.S. and China is now "significantly weaker" than it was during Trump's initial stint in office. The U.S. is importing less goods from China, while Beijing has established other partnerships with countries in Asia and has set up manufacturing capabilities in Mexico to circumvent U.S. duties, the analysts added.

"[The] U.S. tariff influence may not be as powerful, as China has made some necessary adjustments," the Wells Fargo analysts said in a note to clients. "In fact, an argument can be made the U.S. has become more dependent on China as a source of critical imports."

They added that, even though China's economy has been sputtering in recent months, Beijing's new foreign trading relationships could make officials in the country less incentivized to secure a new trade deal with the U.S.

No shit. Since 2018 China exports have increased by $1 trillion.

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America was not able to slow down China rise and lost leverage in process.
 

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