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I understand that, but as you said, the country is rather narrow, and IMHO, this plane is probably the most survivable platform due to its EW capabilities, to be used as a command post.

It is possible that the PAF would fly over Afghan Air Space (with escorts) to give itself a safe place to operate from. It’s not like PAF will care what the Afghans have to say about using their air space in a time of war, or at least IMHO, they shouldn’t. Based out of Quetta, it could operate as far from Indian potential attack vectors and refuel from here. When it has to be used as a proper EW platform, the generals can come off and the majors can resume its single mission profile.

The other option is to get a separate plane or upgrade the Embrarers intended as MPAs for the role.

And remember all this is to say, we still Absolutely need dozens of underground facilitates to command forces from. All I’m saying is add extra datalinks, satcoms, towed decoys and add a general to each of these planes to add a layer of redundancy.

This plane won't survive in Pakistani airspace, infact no plane would, especially if they know it has leadership on board, its the top priority to destroy. There is also the Assumption in a scenario that Afghans won't be hostile. There is an Indian air force base in Tajikstan btw, and its specifically there to counter any attempt at using Afghanistan as strategic depth, you are imagining a scenario where the Afghans let you use their airspace and its unchallenged. And not accounting for a scenario where you have to deal with Afghanistan possibly being supplied with Indian Air Defense assets or the Indians themselves using the Tajikistan airbase against pakistan in a two prong move.

If a war breaks out, I wouldn't put important people in a plane flying around, I would place them in a deep deep mountain complex in Swat or Gitgit Baltistan.
 
This plane won't survive in Pakistani airspace, infact no plane would, especially if they know it has leadership on board, its the top priority to destroy. There is also the Assumption in a scenario that Afghans won't be hostile. There is an Indian air force base in Tajikstan btw, and its specifically there to counter any attempt at using Afghanistan as strategic depth, you are imagining a scenario where the Afghans let you use their airspace and its unchallenged. And not accounting for a scenario where you have to deal with Afghanistan possibly being supplied with Indian Air Defense assets or the Indians themselves using the Tajikistan airbase against pakistan in a two prong move.

If a war breaks out, I wouldn't put important people in a plane flying around, I would place them in a deep deep mountain complex in Swat or Gitgit Baltistan.
Good and fair points.

But there are risks also with having all your command and control assets in deep underground base in terms of maintaining contact with force, as well as situational awareness. I’m just bringing up the need to have some officers in dispersed and mobile positions.

This thought came out of the need to already have these high value assets already moving constantly, in the event of heightened tensions, so why not add a duty officer with authority to order a pre-approved response should certain things happen. In the high tempo of conflict, rely on one or a few ground based networks or sat links to forces may be vulnerable. Taking a robust EW asset and adding one or two officers and more robust datalinks will just add to the redundancy.

Is it at risk of being shot down, sure, but so are the bases to being hit by bunker busters.

The Turks, that know the Israeli, Russian, American and French systems well, could probably give good insight into what capabilities the Havasoj as well as the Bunkers need most to defend best against them.
 
Good and fair points.

But there are risks also with having all your command and control assets in deep underground base in terms of maintaining contact with force, as well as situational awareness. I’m just bringing up the need to have some officers in dispersed and mobile positions.

This thought came out of the need to already have these high value assets already moving constantly, in the event of heightened tensions, so why not add a duty officer with authority to order a pre-approved response should certain things happen. In the high tempo of conflict, rely on one or a few ground based networks or sat links to forces may be vulnerable. Taking a robust EW asset and adding one or two officers and more robust datalinks will just add to the redundancy.

Is it at risk of being shot down, sure, but so are the bases to being hit by bunker busters.

The Turks, that know the Israeli, Russian, American and French systems well, could probably give good insight into what capabilities the Havasoj as well as the Bunkers need most to defend best against them.

Who said only build one bunker? lol

I would have about a half a Dozen Hardened sites.

Is it at risk of being shot down, sure, but so are the bases to being hit by bunker busters.

If you build it right with the right geography, there isn't going to bunker buster than can get through. Currently the biggest Nuclear bomb deployed is a B83 with 1.2Mt. The Cheyenne mountain complex is built to withstand a 30Mt blast.

Pakistan has the mountains for such a Facility in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Bilgit Baltistan if it decides to build something like that.
 
Who said only build one bunker? lol

I would have about a half a Dozen Hardened sites.



If you build it right with the right geography, there isn't going to bunker buster than can get through. Currently the biggest Nuclear bomb deployed is a B83 with 1.2Mt. The Cheyenne mountain complex is built to withstand a 30Mt blast.

Pakistan has the mountains for such a Facility in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Bilgit Baltistan if it decides to build something like that.
Hopefully they are investing in these facilities. We will have to wait and see how the command and control authority evolves in the face of emerging challenges, although due to secrecy we may never know the full extent of it, and I hope it never fully becomes public.
 
Bin Salman needs to give $600 Billion in Investment like he gave Trump. 😅
 
The 2 I-class is going to KSA, Airdefence program SIPER, Tank, UAV but not Kaan. With Kaan the money should by 20+ billion dollar.
 
The 2 I-class is going to KSA, Airdefence program SIPER, Tank, UAV but not Kaan. With Kaan the money should by 20+ billion dollar.
Discounted oil over long period of time would mean more then any cash influx, you spend to much dollars on it.
 
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There is probably no way this happens, but it would be an absolute Coup if this actually happened. lol
 
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According to the Moroccan media, the Moroccan army

received the first AKINCI Offensive UAVs as part of a deep strategic partnership with Baykar.
 

Repkon delivers 155mm ammunition production line to Germany​


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Germany chooses Repkon for 155mm ammunition!​

Germany is taking steps to increase its ammunition production in response to its growing defense needs, military aid to Ukraine and NATO commitments. Among the agreements signed with the country’s largest defense companies is the expansion of production of 155mm artillery ammunition.

Turkish defense industry company Repkon is among the globally preferred companies in the production of 155-mm artillery ammunition. The company has signed contracts to establish ammunition production facilities for the US, Pakistan and Azerbaijan. Finally, Germany has also joined these countries.

Repkon has signed a “high-volume” contract with a firm in Germany for a 155mm explosive filling facility in a project for the production and delivery of artillery ammunition to the German Armed Forces.

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It will be one of the most advanced filling facilities in the world

The facility, which will be established as part of a turnkey project to increase Germany's 155-mm artillery ammunition production capacity, is planned to become operational at the beginning of 2027. In addition to traditional ammunition, the facility will also fill modern and highly destructive new-generation explosives.

The facility will be designed based on minimum manpower and maximum automation and will be one of the most technologically advanced explosive filling facilities in the world. With this investment, Germany aims to increase its production capacity in the country and ensure security in the supply of 155 mm artillery ammunition.

With the signing of the contract, a significant order for 155-mm artillery shells was also decided. Germany is expected to add these ammunitions to its inventory and use them in various areas within the framework of cooperation with NATO and allied countries.




 

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