Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BHAN85]

Netanyahu seeks strong backing from Trump, as first foreign leader to visit

Israel's PM will be testing boundaries when he meets Trump for next-stage ceasefire talks.

www.bbc.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/iran-nuclear-weapon.html

We are coming to a point where the only deterrence left for Iran is test a nuke and say: Stop or you'll taste it.

 

[BHAN85]

Israel is a Western society which cares very much about their civilians and even their soldiers -- unlike Eastern countries. Russia, Iraq, Iran, all these countries lost hundreds of thousands of people and kept going, but the West will never tolerate such losses after WW2.

Look at Kim Jong Un of North Korea: he has got the entire US military stopped at a stalemate. That's because he doesn't care if he loses 10 cities, but the US does not want to risk even 1/10 of a city.



Iran knows that it cannot kill many Israeli civilians or the US will come thundering down. That is why Iran, Hezbollah and others mostly destroy empty buildings and only kill IDF on the combat frontlines.

Israel like another USA allies/vassals is not a sovereign state, but a vassal state.
USA way of handle vassal state is always the same, put corrupt in power who love more own money than any patriotic reason, and if it's not enough, then blackmail them (e.g. corruption probes over Bibi).

Western style democracy is easy to deceive, just take as example Oct 7. In a patriotic dictatorship, let happen Oct 7 is impossible, they never would do that, it has no sense. But in a democracy where deceive people and persuade them to do wars is a requirement, a Oct 7 can be allowed to have a excuse for Gaza/Lebanon/Iran wars.

Of course, even having a complete corrupt ruling elite they must save appearances, a corrupt ruler can not order to a whole state to do a suicide thing, because orders wont be obeyed, the corrupt is the elite upper part, not the bottom part of state.
So it's a constant game of lies, and that is exactly what we are seeing in Israel since 15 years about Iran issue, with the dumbfuck of Bibi in United Nations in 2012 talking about 90% complete Iran Nuke.

 

[Kyussis]

I love how Babak Taghvaee writes as if he was briefed by the Iranian high command about which aircrafts were scrambled and what armament they were carrying!

 

[925boy]

I think the thing they fear is a Israel strike against Iran nuclear facilities, backed by USA.

Yes, the thought probably frightens Iran a bit, especially the "backed by USA" partzbut in reality, these strikes are non existing, so no wonder why they haven't happened in over 30 years.
Also, with Iran's national Air defense network and military being in their best shape today, Israel and US will experience their worst performance (which will also set them for a defeat in such conflict)if they strike Iran's facilities today.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Nothing new besides Israeli hasbara projecting Hezbollah into Iran

I doubt Israel has the capability to cross the airspace+drop 80 ton of bombs on a single target+get away with it and being successful, all of this without being targeted and using 50+ fighter jets at the same time, this is not Lebanon which is next door to Israel

This could only happen in a world where Iran is fully disarmed, with the whole IADS completely destroyed, such an operation could happen only with massive US assistance at full scale war with ground operations to disable everything

Listen if they could do this, they would already have done it in response to TP2 and even freely/without reason since decades, the theory of "they are holding up all their bombs so they can target Iran, they are just waiting for the good moment" "Israel is hiding its real capabilities" does not hold up, as same as the "pre-emptive strike on Iran" theory, which is also mostly used by delusional Israeli politicians

They would have done this and not throwing ALBMs pushed at their maximum range and quadcopters

 

[925boy]

Anything! These bogus analyses

but meanwhile.....look at what Israeli leaders are saying:

 

[maverick]

unbelievable footage of Iran air attack

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[BHAN85]

Yes, the thought probably frightens Iran a bit, especially the "backed by USA" partzbut in reality, these strikes are non existing, so no wonder why they haven't happened in over 30 years.
Also, with Iran's national Air defense network and military being in their best shape today, Israel and US will experience their worst performance (which will also set them for a defeat in such conflict)if they strike Iran's facilities today.

It's hard make deterrence when the orders came from USA and Israel is just a filthy corrupt vassal.

Even if Iran develop nukes and can destroy every inch of Israel, maybe that wont make deterrence, because Israel corrupt rich elite dont live in Israel and they dont give a fck if Iran kill all Israeli people.

Anyway, keep in mind the threats against Iran now are different from past threats, Nasrallah was killed, Hezbollah attacked with impunity, Gaza destroyed, Assad fallen....

Iran only have left Iraq shiite militias and Yemen Houthis.

So the next big Israel movement can be Iran itself.

Revoke fatwa against nuclear weapons, Iranian commanders tell Ayatollah

Iran must have atomic bombs to survive, supreme leader told in extraordinary intervention by regime’s military leaders

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Mehdipersian]

It's hard make deterrence when the orders came from USA and Israel is just a filthy corrupt vassal.

Even if Iran develop nukes and can destroy every inch of Israel, maybe that wont make deterrence, because Israel corrupt rich elite dont live in Israel and they dont give a fck if Iran kill all Israeli people.

Anyway, keep in mind the threats against Iran now are different from past threats, Nasrallah was killed, Hezbollah attacked with impunity, Gaza destroyed, Assad fallen....

Iran only have left Iraq shiite militias and Yemen Houthis.

So the next big Israel movement can be Iran itself.

Revoke fatwa against nuclear weapons, Iranian commanders tell Ayatollah

Iran must have atomic bombs to survive, supreme leader told in extraordinary intervention by regime’s military leaders

www.telegraph.co.uk

Iran does not need proxies to fight against Israel and America. They are the ones who need Iran to defend themselves. Also, Hezbollah has not suffered any major damage in the war with Israel.

 

[OldTwilight]

Iran does not need proxies to fight against Israel and America. They are the ones who need Iran to defend themselves. Also, Hezbollah has not suffered any major damage in the war with Israel.

Well , They weren't our proxies in first place , they just asked us for help , and we supported them ...

Now we only lake nuclear weapons , or else with arrival of Su-35 and Su-30 even our air force will be formidable adversary for our potential enemies ....

 

[BHAN85]

Iran does not need proxies to fight against Israel and America. They are the ones who need Iran to defend themselves. Also, Hezbollah has not suffered any major damage in the war with Israel.

Iran certainly can threat American military bases in Middle East and Israel soil.

But Iran can't touch a inch of USA mainland soil.

I think USA plan is precisely provoke Iran to blow up whole Middle East.

USA [Jewish Bankers] ruling elite dont give a sht about USA military bases in Middle East or about Israel people, they care about own money, and money is worthless without cheap oil and raw materials, so it's time to drop vassals.

Iran is the USA trigger to destroy GCC richness.
And Ukraine is the USA trigger to destroy West Europe richness.

The real enemy of USA is not Russia or Iran, is the wasteful of energy and raw materials of USA vassals.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Iran certainly can threat American military bases in Middle East and Israel soil.

But Iran can't touch a inch of USA mainland soil.

With the threats made by Trump, Iran's ICBM will soon be unveiled.

The range of Iran's missiles has been 2000 km so far due to political reasons.

 

[BHAN85]

With the threats made by Trump, Iran's ICBM will soon be unveiled.

The range of Iran's missiles has been 2000 km so far due to political reasons.

USA has oceans plenty of AEGIS warships able to shoot down foes ICBM.

It's highly unlikely a successful ICBM attack from Iran soil to USA soil, even with the best technology available.

Iran needs to start sailing near to USA coasts if they want real deterrence. Through underwater drones, or any another crazy invention, but nearer the real power decision centers.

USA ruling elite [American Jewish bankers] doesnt give a FCK if Iran destroy whole Israel and Middle East American military bases. In fact, I think that's precisely what they want right now

USA showed their true intentions of selfdestruction of Middle East in 2011/2012 Hormuz strait tensions, sailing aircraft carriers by pairs in Hormuz strait, and sinking Iranian boats as provocation. Iran didnt bit the bait, but USA showed what they were and what they wanted: Kill own people as provocation to bring chaos to Middle East.

2011–2012 Strait of Hormuz dispute - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(January 22nd 2012 news)

US aircraft carrier sails through Strait of Hormuz

Amid heightened tensions with Iran, an American aircraft carrier has sailed through the Strait of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf. The Navy says it's a routine maneuver.

www.nbcnews.com

Many drown in Iran boat accident

Sixteen bodies recovered after passenger boat sinks off southern coast due to engine malfunction in stormy weather.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran certainly can threat American military bases in Middle East and Israel soil.

But Iran can't touch a inch of USA mainland soil.

I think USA plan is precisely provoke Iran to blow up whole Middle East.

USA [Jewish Bankers] ruling elite dont give a sht about USA military bases in Middle East or about Israel people, they care about own money, and money is worthless without cheap oil and raw materials, so it's time to drop vassals.

Iran is the USA trigger to destroy GCC richness.
And Ukraine is the USA trigger to destroy West Europe richness.

The real enemy of USA is not Russia or Iran, is the wasteful of energy and raw materials of USA vassals.

Excuse us all here but your logic makes no sense. The US owns the GCC. All the GCC investments are in the west and the entire eco-system in the GCC is managed and run by US/ western corporations.

Why would the US/ west hurt itself using your cynicism?