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USA vassals ready to obey orders until the full suicide.


What a funny thing, see slaves claiming sovereignty and pretending distancing from USA when in fact they are more vassals than never.

USA never stops of surprising world with their stupid lies.
I think gentiles can be endlessly deceived by USA American Jewish ruling elite.

There is no limits for the stupid bullshit that gentiles can believe.
UK will not send troops to Ukraine, it's just UK attacking big, the only way is through Usa/Nato.
 

Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia​

Brett Samuels
Wed, February 19, 2025 at 4:03 AM GMT+5·3 min read
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Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia
President Trump on Tuesday appeared to blame Ukraine’s leaders for the three-year war with Russia, arguing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “should have never started it.”

Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, after massing troops on the border and demanding a ban on Ukraine ever joining the NATO alliance. The invasion took place nearly a decade after Russia took over Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.

Trump vowed to end the war during his presidential campaign and on Tuesday repeated his claim that the war would never have started if he had been president. He spoke after U.S. and Russian officials met in Saudi Arabia without Ukraine officials.

“I think I have the power to end this war. And I think it’s going very well,” Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago on the heels of the meeting between U.S. and Russian officials.


“But today I heard, ‘Oh, well we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.”

Trump went on to rail against former President Biden as “so pathetic” before again criticizing Zelensky.

“Look, you have leadership — and I like him personally. He’s fine. But I don’t care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that’s allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States.”

Trump’s comments came after three of his senior administration officials met with their Russian counterparts earlier Tuesday in Saudi Arabia to discuss mending relations between the two powers and ending the war in Ukraine. The meeting marked a dramatic shift in U.S.-Russia relations.

Zelensky expressed frustration that Ukrainian representatives were not part of the talks.


“Decisions on how to end the war in Ukraine cannot be made without Ukraine, nor can any conditions be imposed,” Zelensky said during a visit to Turkey on Tuesday. “We were not invited to this Russian-American meeting in Saudi Arabia. It was a surprise for us, I think for many others as well.”

Secretary of State Marco Rubio told reporters in Saudi Arabia that any final agreement would have to be acceptable to Ukraine and Europe, as well as Russia.

Trump has over the past week moved forward with his desire to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, which began three years ago when Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of its neighbor.

Trump last week spoke first with Russian President Vladimir Putin about starting peace negotiations, then with Zelensky. Trump has talked bout holding a face-to-face meeting with Putin in the near future.

While Trump has stressed he wants an end to the killing, he and some administration officials have made comments in the past week that have alarmed allies and some lawmakers.


Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called it “unrealistic” for Ukraine to return to its pre-2014 borders as part of a ceasefire agreement with Russia or to gain NATO membership.

Trump called it an “interesting question” when asked if he viewed Ukraine as an equal member of the peace negotiations without answering directly.

“I think they have to make peace,” Trump said last week. “Their people are being killed, and I think they have to make peace. I said that was not a good war to go into, and I think they have to make peace. That’s what I think.”

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USA wants a big piece of cake from Ukraine lol
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STILL IN THE FIGHT​

  1. Aviation Features
  2. Still in the fight


18th February 2025
FEATURE



Ukraine Russia War Ukraine’s combat aircraft fleet

As the war in Ukraine approaches its third anniversary, Vladimir Trendafilovski details the air war so far and how Ukraine’s air forces are growing even stronger
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The fully armed F-16AM J-367 departs for the last Dutch F-16 training (‘Tango’) QRA scramble at Volkel AB on March 28, 2024, armed with live AIM-9X and AIM-120B AAMs. On September 16, it was delivered to the UkrAF together with aircraft J-003, J-005, J-014, J-016 and J-017
Gert Kromhout
In the early morning of February 24, 2022, the Russian armed forces launched their all-out invasion of Ukraine. Wrongfully believing that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would disintegrate under their initial ‘shock and awe’ tactics, the Kremlin had envisaged this modern-day Anschluss of Ukraine as a short-term ‘special military operation’ that would last only a few weeks at the most. However, they gravely misjudged the will for freedom and independence of the Ukrainian people – three years on, there is no end in sight to the conflict in Ukraine. On the contrary – the fighting continues to escalate further, causing devastating losses on both sides with far-reaching global consequences.

The Ukrainian Air Force (UkrAF) and its seemingly endless combat aircraft fleet remain an unsolvable puzzle for Russia which still throws all possible weapons against it in the hope of finally destroying it. Despite significant losses in men and materiel, the UkrAF remains in the fight – inflicting considerable damage to the Russian war machine every day. Furthermore, it is currently integrating new Western aircraft and weapons which will significantly boost its combat performance and capabilities.

At the beginning of the war

The UkrAF had some 150 active combat aircraft in February 2022 – 55 MiG-29s, 40 Su-27s, 25 Su-24s and 30 Su-25s. The strike aircraft were with two units, directly subordinated to the UkrAF Command – 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade (brTA) at Starokostiantyniv Air Base (AB) had Su-24s while 299th brTA at Mykolaiv-Kulbakino AB had Su-25s. The fighter aircraft were with five units – 39th brTA at Ozerne AB and 831st brTA at Myrhorod AB had Su-27s, while 40th brTA at Vasylkiv AB, 114th brTA at Ivano-Frankivsk AB and 204th brTA at Lutsk AB had MiG29s. The 39th, 40th and 831st brTA were under Air Command (AC) Centre, while the 114th and 204th brTA were under AC West.

With the exception of the Su-24s, the bulk of UkrAF’s combat aircraft was overhauled in the previous decade and many of them were modernized. Unfortunately, these upgrades were primarily aimed at improving outdated navigation systems. As a result, combat capabilities did not improve significantly as their weapons inventory remained practically unchanged. The lack of modern self-protection suite with an integrated electronic countermeasures (ECM) system, plus the lack of any kind of long-range high-precision ‘fire-andforget’ air-to-air or air-to-ground weapon, reduced the combat performance and survivability on today’s battlefield.

Three years of war

In the last three years of war, the UkrAF’s combat aircraft fleet went through a number of phases, all with unique aspects. The initial phase, lasting until the stabilization of the frontline in early April 2022, was certainly the most challenging – not just for the UkrAF, but also for Ukraine itself. Undoubtedly, this was the crucial moment when Ukraine’s dogged determination stopped the Russian steamroller dead in its tracks. Against all odds, and contrary to most expectations, the UkrAF managed to survive the initial Russian onslaught and conserve most of its original Soviet-era aircraft fleet (stored aircraft included), while simultaneously repelling a vastly superior enemy, both in the air and on the ground. As is evident from the list of losses, this came at a cost – over 30 aircraft (a fifth of the active aircraft fleet) and 30 pilots were lost in this period – which is practically half of all the confirmed losses. This should not come as a surprise – in this period the UkrAF came up close and personal with the enemy – the strike aircraft engaged ground targets in low-level bombing and strafing runs using iron bombs and unguided airto-ground rockets while the fighters engaged both ground and air targets, exposing themselves to the enemy’s ground-based air defence (GBAD) systems and fighter aircraft on combat air patrol (CAP) sorties.

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In the first days of the war the situation was chaotic, but UkrAF pilots never stopped flying – here a 40th brTA pilot walks to his MiG-29 in the aftermath of a Russian missile strike
UkrAF Command
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UkrAF technicians hard at work, ensuring that a restored MiG-29 type 9-13 of 40th brTA remains serviceable and always combat ready. These procedures sometimes take hours before a flight, requiring many specialists for each of the aircraft’s main systems and weapons. Such ‘invisible men’ are not only behind each successful sortie, but also behind UkrAF’s remarkable recovery from its initial losses – in a very short amount of time, they managed to return to service dozens of stored aircraft, some of which have not flown for over a decade
UkrAF Command
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A rare UkrAF Su-24M in the post-overhaul grey digital paint scheme and its formidable Soviet-era weaponry on display – including a variety of iron bombs, unguided airto-ground rockets, KAB-500Kr and KAB-1500L guided bombs, Kh-25ML and Kh-29L laser-guided AGMs and the Kh-58U ARM
Sergey Smolentsev
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Two stored MiG-29 type 9-13 aircraft (including ’45 White’) of the 114th brTA at Ivano-Frankivsk AB, destroyed during one of the initial missile strikes in February 2022
Ukrainian Internet Resources
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A fully armed MiG-29 in a post-overhaul grey digital scheme displays quick recognition markings in the colours of the Ukrainian flag, applied on all UkrAF aircraft by late 2022
UkrAF Command
 
Su-24 Fencer

The Su-24 came as the Su-24M (Fencer-D) strike aircraft and the Su-24MR (Fencer-E) reconnaissance aircraft – both of which were in the original Soviet-era form when the war began. Despite having lost at least 17 Su-24s by now, 7th brTA is believed to still have at least 15-20 operational aircraft of both variants remaining – most, if not all, adapted to deploy Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG ALCMs. Many seem to be former stored aircraft returned to service as only a single aircraft (’09 White’) is known to have arrived from overhaul at the NARP plant at Mykolaiv-Kulbakino AB and most of the pre-war aircraft – including at least three of the overhauled aircraft (presumably ’08 White’, ’20 White’ and ’44 White’) – appear to have been lost in the initial period of the war. Operational Su-24s were damaged on the ground and during combat, but there are no reports of any of them being destroyed or written off.
It was in this period when all their deficiencies came to light, especially the lack of modern weapons. This was most obvious when UkrAF fighters were pitted against modern Russian fighters, armed with modern beyond visual range (BVR) air-to-air missiles (AAMs) with active radar homing (ARH) seekers, enabling them to engage UkrAF aircraft from safe distances, well out of reach of their Soviet-era AA-10 Alamo AAMs or UkrAF’s long-range surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems.

As the conflict progressed and the front line stabilized, direct contact with the enemy was brought to the minimum – strike aircraft conducted stand-off strikes with unguided air-toground rockets, while fighter aircraft supported them, with the use of AGM-88 High-speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM) – the first Western-supplied weapon successfully integrated on UkrAF’s MiG-29s and Su-27s. Initial combat losses were soon replaced by stored aircraft and by Soviet-built aircraft provided by partner countries – the first were four Su-25s from North Macedonia arriving in 2022, followed by ten MiG-29s from Poland and 13 MiG-29s from Slovakia in 2023. Depending on their condition, some of these were pressed into service immediately, some underwent repairs/overhaul at the LDARZ and ZDARZ plants (in Lviv and Zaporizhzhia, respectively), along with a number of UkrAF’s stored aircraft, while the rest became a source of spare parts.

With Soviet-era weapons becoming scarcer – especially unguided air-to-ground rockets – in 2023 the UkrAF began integrating new Western weapons, predominantly precision-guided munitions (PGMs). First came the US-built Joint Direct Attack Munition – Extended Range (JDAM-ER) guided glide bomb, followed by the UK /French-built Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG air-launched cruise missiles (ALCMs), US-built Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) guided glide bomb. This not only provided much-needed range, precision and effectiveness on target – features that its Soviet-era weapons lacked – but also took care of the weapons shortage problem.

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A Su-24M armed with a Kh-29L laser-guided AGM. Fencers are nowadays used almost exclusively to deploy the Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG ALCMs, but on occasion they also deploy these old Soviet-era AGMs as well
UkrAF Command
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Ukraine Russia War Ukraine’s combat aircraft fleet A two-seat Su-25UBM1K during a training flight. The entire UkrAF two-seat Su-25 fleet is believed to be intact as it was used almost exclusively for pilot training
UkrAF Command
In 2024, the UkrAF had reached a new milestone – integrating a modern Western multi-role fighter aircraft in its inventory – the US-built F-16 Fighting Falcon (aka ‘Viper’), with the French Mirage 2000 expected to arrive in early 2025. Both aircraft are equipped with modern self-protection suites and use modern ‘fire-andforget’ long-range AAMs, which finally closed the technology gap between Ukrainian and Russian fighter aircraft – something that was unimaginable three years earlier.

UkrAF’s combat aircraft weaponry

In addition to a wide variety of Soviet-era unguided air-toground weaponry – bombs and rockets of various calibres, with multiple types of warheads suited for different types of targets – UkrAF’s strike aircraft also had at their disposal various Soviet-era air-to-ground missiles (AGMs). These include the Kh-25M (AS10 Karen) and Kh-29 (AS-14 Kedge) series, of which laser-guided variants – the Kh-25ML and Kh-29L respectively – were predominantly used.

While Soviet-era guided bombs are also available to the UkrAF – including the TV-guided KAB500Kr and laser-guided KAB-1500L – none seem to have been utilized in the conflict so far, no doubt due to the fact that they have to be released from high altitudes and near the intended target, which forces the aircraft to get within range of the enemy’s GBAD. Finally, there was also a Soviet-era anti-radiation missile (ARM) available – the Kh-58U (AS-11 Kilter) – its use from the Su-24M was reported, but pictures have not surfaced so far. Note that the Su-24M would have to carry the special Fantasmagoriya pod below the fuselage to employ these. With the introduction of Western weapons, the combat capabilities of UkrAF’s combat aircraft were significantly increased. The first weapon to enter service was the AGM-88 HARM, which appeared in the summer of 2022. It was used to great effect during the Kherson and Kharkiv counteroffensives in 2022, putting Russian GBAD systems out of action and clearing the path for UkrAF’s strike aircraft which now had the opportunity to revert to direct low-level bombing and strafing runs, as well as to deploy laser-guided AGMs.

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A Su-27S departs on a combat mission in the early stage of the war armed with only four R-27ER BVR AAMs. The aircraft has the typical post-overhaul blue digital scheme applied at ZDARZ in the last decade. The unpainted replacement canopy suggests that this aircraft could be one of those damaged at Ozerne AB on March 7, 2022
UkrAF Command
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This Su-25M1K of 299th brTA is seen in the summer of 2023, armed with a pair of four-shot LAU-10 rocket pods with US-supplied Zuni airto-ground rockets
UkrAF Command
Soon, a number of guided glide bombs were introduced – the US-built GBU-62 JDAM-ER (in February 2023), followed by the US-built GBU-39 SDB and French-built A ASM-250 Hammer (both in 2024). The JDAM-ER was initially integrated with the Su-24s, but with the introduction of UK /French-built Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG ALCMs in 2023, the Fencers became their exclusive launch platform, leaving glide bombs to the MiG-29 and Su-27. Simultaneously, fighters were also tasked with deploying the ADM-160B Miniature Air-Launched Decoy (MALD) in support of ALCM sorties.

After depleting its stocks of large-calibre unguided air-toground rockets, the UkrAF in 2023 received the last remaining US stocks of 127mm Zuni rockets and associated LAU-10 pods, which were integrated on the Su-25 and used in regular standoff strikes. By early 2024 these were already depleted and the Su-25s began converting on A ASM-250 Hammer bombs. Later in 2024, the delivery of US-built AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW) glide bombs for use with F-16s was announced and work was underway on Ukrainian indigenous guided glide bombs. Finally, the Soviet-era fighters are armed with two basic types of AAMs – the close-range R-73 (AA-11 Archer) with infra-red (IR) seeker and the BVR R-27 (AA-10 Alamo). The latter come in four variants – R-27R and R-27ER with semi-active radar homing (i.e. requiring the launch aircraft to track the target the entire time) and R-27T and R-27ET with an IR seeker. The R-27ER/ET are extended range variants with a larger engine and, together with the R-27T, they can be used only by the Su-27s.

The F-16s have finally brought a BVR AAM – the AIM-120B Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM), with an ARH. In addition to these, they also have at their disposal at least two variants of the IR-guided AIM-9Sidewinder – the AIM9M and AIM-9X, with the arrival of the German-built AIM-9L/I-1announced in December.

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This fully armed aircraft is one of nine ex-Slovak modernized MiG-29AS which were transferred to Ukraine in the spring of 2023. They are easily distinguishable from original UkrAF MiG-29s by multiple additional antennas on the spine and on the nose (below and in front of the cockpit)
UkrAF Command
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The single ex-Slovak modernized two-seat MiG-29UBS, former ‘1303’. This aircraft is believed to be ’80 White’ with 114th brTA
UkrAF Command
 
Analysing UkrAF losses – a challenging task

Analysing UkrAF’s combat aircraft losses during the conflict is not an easy task, especially if having to quote open sources only. Some of these – especially confirmation of an UkrAF combat aircraft pilot’s death from official sources – are an almost certain indicator of a combat aircraft loss but are never a fully reliable source. It is sometimes difficult to deduce what type of aircraft was lost – or whether an aircraft was lost at all – especially in cases when the pilot in question converted on a different type of combat aircraft (for example, many retired MiG29 pilots converted on the Su-24 and died behind its controls) or simply died of natural causes. Good examples are the reports regarding the death of Col Yuriy Pohorilyy (a MiG-29 and Su-25 pilot) and Capt Anton Lystopad (a MiG-29 pilot, posthumously promoted to Major), occurring on August 8, 2022. Both pilots died as passengers of an UkrAF Mi-2Hoplite utility helicopter – Mi-2MSB ’02 Blue’ of the 456th Transport Aviation Brigade (brTrA) at Havryshivka airport near Vinnytsia which crashed and burned out after colliding with a barn during a night flight at approx. 0110hrs local time. While the author was aware of this from the start through well-informed sources, this was not made public, and both losses were attributed to enemy action with the presumed loss of UkrAF combat aircraft in the process. Also worth mentioning is that the initial Russian missile strikes in February 2022 were mostly directed against stored aircraft, so many of the aircraft destroyed on the ground in this period were decommissioned or in long-term storage for well over a decade. This is true for aircraft destroyed at the Bila Tserkva storage facility (Su-24s), at Ivano-Frankivsk AB (MiG29s – including old MiG-29 9-12 aircraft), Lutsk AB (Su-24s), Mykolaiv-Kulbakino AB (Su-25s) and Starokostiantyniv AB (old MiG-29 9-12 aircraft and Su-24s).

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Left: The famous Maj Vadym ‘Karaya’ Voroshylov, a Hero of Ukraine, posing with the JDAM-ER bomb on MiG-29 type 9-13 ‘56 Blue’ of 114th brTA before departing on a bombing mission against targets in the Kursk Oblast of Russia in late August 2024. To avoid ‘friendly fire’ incidents, by late 2022 most aircraft received quick recognition markings in the colours of the Ukrainian flag, while many restored aircraft were repainted in this blue-yellow paint scheme
UkrAF Command
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The famous Lt Col Rostyslav ‘Hrim’ Lazarenko, a Hero of Ukraine, poses in front of Su-25 ’51 Blue’ – ex-Macedonian ‘121’, returned to operational service after overhaul at ZDARZ
UkrAF Command
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A modernized Su-27P1M displays a standard post-overhaul blue digital scheme with the addition of quick recognition markings in the colours of the Ukrainian flag on the rudders
UkrAF Command
The single confirmed operational aircraft destroyed during the initial strikes was a Su-27 at Ozerne AB.

More lately, videos taken by Russian surveillance drones, showing Ukrainian aircraft being destroyed on the ground – usually by Lancet ‘kamikaze’ drones or Iskander-M(SS26 Stone) hypersonic ballistic surface-to-surface missiles (SSMs) – are published. While the type in question is obvious, it is hard to determine whether it was a real operational aircraft or a decoy (a real decommissioned aircraft or an inflatable or wooden life-sized model).

Having all of the above in mind, the lists presented here contain only operational aircraft which were shot down or crashed, including cases where ‘friendly fire’ is suspected. While ‘friendly fire’ incidents are more probable along the front line, frequent use of UkrAF fighters against Russian cruise missiles and ‘kamikaze’ drones increases the chances for this. At least five aircraft are known to have been lost during such missions at night-time – two of them being possible ‘friendly fire’ victims (see F-16, MiG-29 and Su-27 panels).

Current state

At the end of January, almost three years after the war began, the UkrAF still had at least 100 active combat aircraft, estimated at 15 F-16s, 45-50 MiG-29s, 15-20 Su-24s, 15-20 Su-25s and 20-25 Su-27s. Further delivery of F-16 and Mirage 2000s are expected from a number of European countries this year, which would bring the total to the pre-war number (150). However, the greatest challenge that the UkrAF faces now is the lack of trained ground crews and pilots for its new aircraft, and this is something that needs to be taken care of as soon as possible. These are trained by partner countries and only a definite number of slots is available, so the UkrAF is considering creating its own training centre, but this would require a lot of resources (including contracted foreign trainers), and – what is most important – it will take some time before it becomes operational. Having all of the above in mind, it is clear the ex-Soviet combat aircraft will remain in service in the foreseeable future as UkrAF’s new Western aircraft have yet to reach full operational capability.

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Su-27S banks at low altitude, displaying the wartime grey scheme – usually applied on the stored aircraft restored to service since 2022. The aircraft has pylons for JDAM-ER bombs
UkrAF Command

 
It's a win win situation for Russia whatever the outcome.

- Peace Deal & we'll have Russia retain the land liberated and a Ukraine without any NATO troops. A Ukraine with no prospect of NATO membership.
- No peace deal, and Russia continues eating away Ukraine till it takes everything East of the dnipro as well as Odessa. Beautiful. Then Western Ukraine can be turned into a wasteland where No forces will be able to operate.

Ukraine should take the peace deal or it'll suffer endlessly because of the clown of Kiev.
 
It's a win win situation for Russia whatever the outcome.

- Peace Deal & we'll have Russia retain the land liberated and a Ukraine without any NATO troops. A Ukraine with no prospect of NATO membership.
- No peace deal, and Russia continues eating away Ukraine till it takes everything East of the dnipro as well as Odessa. Beautiful. Then Western Ukraine can be turned into a wasteland where No forces will be able to operate.

Ukraine should take the peace deal or it'll suffer endlessly because of the clown of Kiev.

Why would Europeans allow that ?
 
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Rare earth's deal will be made by Putin and Trump, that will allow sanctions to be lifted. Ukraine will unfortunately be sucked dry by both of these vampires.
 
Russian military larger? Yes….More powerful? No

Russia has lost two thirds of its entire armor. What’s left is in poor condition, expensive and time consuming to restore. Russian new production doesn’t come close to its attrition rate. It’s why we’re seeing so many civilian vehicles, dune buggies, and motorcycles these days.

The Russian advance has slowed significantly. Their Army has been pulverized, Russian Navy nowhere to be found, and Russian Air Force still can’t gain air superiority beyond the frontline.

The Russian military WILL reach exhaustion

Do you know more than the NATO chief ?

He said Russia produces more in 3 months than NATO does in 2 years
 
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Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia​

Brett Samuels
Wed, February 19, 2025 at 4:03 AM GMT+5·3 min read
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Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia
President Trump on Tuesday appeared to blame Ukraine’s leaders for the three-year war with Russia, arguing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “should have never started it.”

Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, after massing troops on the border and demanding a ban on Ukraine ever joining the NATO alliance. The invasion took place nearly a decade after Russia took over Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.

Trump vowed to end the war during his presidential campaign and on Tuesday repeated his claim that the war would never have started if he had been president. He spoke after U.S. and Russian officials met in Saudi Arabia without Ukraine officials.

“I think I have the power to end this war. And I think it’s going very well,” Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago on the heels of the meeting between U.S. and Russian officials.


“But today I heard, ‘Oh, well we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.”

Trump went on to rail against former President Biden as “so pathetic” before again criticizing Zelensky.

“Look, you have leadership — and I like him personally. He’s fine. But I don’t care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that’s allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States.”

Trump’s comments came after three of his senior administration officials met with their Russian counterparts earlier Tuesday in Saudi Arabia to discuss mending relations between the two powers and ending the war in Ukraine. The meeting marked a dramatic shift in U.S.-Russia relations.

Zelensky expressed frustration that Ukrainian representatives were not part of the talks.


“Decisions on how to end the war in Ukraine cannot be made without Ukraine, nor can any conditions be imposed,” Zelensky said during a visit to Turkey on Tuesday. “We were not invited to this Russian-American meeting in Saudi Arabia. It was a surprise for us, I think for many others as well.”

Secretary of State Marco Rubio told reporters in Saudi Arabia that any final agreement would have to be acceptable to Ukraine and Europe, as well as Russia.

Trump has over the past week moved forward with his desire to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, which began three years ago when Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of its neighbor.

Trump last week spoke first with Russian President Vladimir Putin about starting peace negotiations, then with Zelensky. Trump has talked bout holding a face-to-face meeting with Putin in the near future.

While Trump has stressed he wants an end to the killing, he and some administration officials have made comments in the past week that have alarmed allies and some lawmakers.


Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called it “unrealistic” for Ukraine to return to its pre-2014 borders as part of a ceasefire agreement with Russia or to gain NATO membership.

Trump called it an “interesting question” when asked if he viewed Ukraine as an equal member of the peace negotiations without answering directly.

“I think they have to make peace,” Trump said last week. “Their people are being killed, and I think they have to make peace. I said that was not a good war to go into, and I think they have to make peace. That’s what I think.”

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Trump is wrong.

Ukraine can ignore US demand.
that’s unacceptable.
the US wants a deal with Russia to cut off Ukraine like cutting a cake and share among themselves.

the US wanted to keep Viet Nam divided too. we know how it ended.

this war will be settled on battlefield.

no negotiation

in fact Zielinski already rejected Trump’s ultimatum.
 

Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia​

Brett Samuels
Wed, February 19, 2025 at 4:03 AM GMT+5·3 min read
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Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia
President Trump on Tuesday appeared to blame Ukraine’s leaders for the three-year war with Russia, arguing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “should have never started it.”

Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, after massing troops on the border and demanding a ban on Ukraine ever joining the NATO alliance. The invasion took place nearly a decade after Russia took over Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.

Trump vowed to end the war during his presidential campaign and on Tuesday repeated his claim that the war would never have started if he had been president. He spoke after U.S. and Russian officials met in Saudi Arabia without Ukraine officials.

“I think I have the power to end this war. And I think it’s going very well,” Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago on the heels of the meeting between U.S. and Russian officials.


“But today I heard, ‘Oh, well we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.”

Trump went on to rail against former President Biden as “so pathetic” before again criticizing Zelensky.

“Look, you have leadership — and I like him personally. He’s fine. But I don’t care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that’s allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States.”

Trump’s comments came after three of his senior administration officials met with their Russian counterparts earlier Tuesday in Saudi Arabia to discuss mending relations between the two powers and ending the war in Ukraine. The meeting marked a dramatic shift in U.S.-Russia relations.

Zelensky expressed frustration that Ukrainian representatives were not part of the talks.


“Decisions on how to end the war in Ukraine cannot be made without Ukraine, nor can any conditions be imposed,” Zelensky said during a visit to Turkey on Tuesday. “We were not invited to this Russian-American meeting in Saudi Arabia. It was a surprise for us, I think for many others as well.”

Secretary of State Marco Rubio told reporters in Saudi Arabia that any final agreement would have to be acceptable to Ukraine and Europe, as well as Russia.

Trump has over the past week moved forward with his desire to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, which began three years ago when Russia launched an unprovoked invasion of its neighbor.

Trump last week spoke first with Russian President Vladimir Putin about starting peace negotiations, then with Zelensky. Trump has talked bout holding a face-to-face meeting with Putin in the near future.

While Trump has stressed he wants an end to the killing, he and some administration officials have made comments in the past week that have alarmed allies and some lawmakers.


Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called it “unrealistic” for Ukraine to return to its pre-2014 borders as part of a ceasefire agreement with Russia or to gain NATO membership.

Trump called it an “interesting question” when asked if he viewed Ukraine as an equal member of the peace negotiations without answering directly.

“I think they have to make peace,” Trump said last week. “Their people are being killed, and I think they have to make peace. I said that was not a good war to go into, and I think they have to make peace. That’s what I think.”

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Ooooooohhhhh it's Ukraines fault, we stayed by the great and trustworthy U.S.A


The maga are watching trump dismantle U.S prestige built up over a generation
 
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Ukraine launches a recuitment compaign for young men.

as result mass of youngster between 18y-24y storming Ukraine recuitment centers.

- those men will receive a bonus of $24,000 for one year contract
- $3,000 a month
- bonus for university, home purchase

 
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