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[j_hungary]

Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 gives a President broad powers. President Trump was within his right as defined BY THE LAW when he wanted to put a stop to it the first time.

He will be within his right again this time.

Do you know what they say about illegal gun? And why gun control does not work?

You can enact whatever law you want as much as you want, but if a person is bend on breaking the law by acquiring illegal weapon, then they will simply ignore the law and it's pointless, because law is there to put people who follow the law in line. For people who don't care, it's just a piece of paper.

The same thing with illegal Migrant, they aren't going to be deterred by some law, because for them, what else do they have to lose? This isn't going to solve anything, and if this become Trump's white elephant and he only focus on this issue and ignore the rest, America is going to head into shit.

 

[That_Guy]

That's no secret. Remember back in his first time in office he wanted to stop immigration from "sh*thole countries".

And that proves my point.

Nothing is gonna save your economy at this point.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

And that proves my point.

Nothing is gonna save your economy at this point.

"Necessity is the mother of invention."

Sitting around watching basically human slaves working the fields isn't promoting innovation nor is it something to be proud of.

Plus you are making the assumption that these people jump the fence and want to do this job for the rest of their lives. What do you expect them to be doing when they get older?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Do you know what they say about illegal gun? And why gun control does not work?

You can enact whatever law you want as much as you want, but if a person is bend on breaking the law by acquiring illegal weapon, then they will simply ignore the law and it's pointless, because law is there to put people who follow the law in line. For people who don't care, it's just a piece of paper.

The same thing with illegal Migrant, they aren't going to be deterred by some law, because for them, what else do they have to lose? This isn't going to solve anything, and if this become Trump's white elephant and he only focus on this issue and ignore the rest, America is going to head into shit.

Gun control, Captain, is intended to restrict a law-abiding citizen's rights protected by the 2A. A criminal is never going to abide by the law. Crime statistics, which you well know, confirm that cities and states with the strictest gun control laws often have the highest crime rates involving the use of a firearm.

 

[j_hungary]

Gun control, Captain, is intended to restrict a law-abiding citizen's rights protected by the 2A. A criminal is never going to abide by the law. Crime statistics, which you well know, confirm that cities and states with the strictest gun control laws often have the highest crime rates involving the use of a firearm.

Yeah, that's the gist of it.

Nobody care about law if your intention is going to break it. That's the same as everything illegal. Not saying law does not work, we are a civil society because there were law, but too much restriction tends to go the other way, it was strange back in my days when I was a cop, district that tend to ignore minor infraction usually is the better district crime wise, and this is something law enforcement don't want people to see, and when I said to some other LEO that I don't tend to execute the law in the fullest, they all surprised since I was ex-military and law enforcement......

 

[Davey Crockett]

Gun control, Captain, is intended to restrict a law-abiding citizen's rights protected by the 2A. A criminal is never going to abide by the law. Crime statistics, which you well know, confirm that cities and states with the strictest gun control laws often have the highest crime rates involving the use of a firearm.

I know an old man in Tennessee who has a 300 yard long driveway.

If you try to visit uninvited, he may fire the cannon he has sitting in his front yard.

 

[Waz]

Gun control, Captain, is intended to restrict a law-abiding citizen's rights protected by the 2A. A criminal is never going to abide by the law. Crime statistics, which you well know, confirm that cities and states with the strictest gun control laws often have the highest crime rates involving the use of a firearm.

Yep, 100%.
Criminals don't obey the laws, that's why they are called criminals.
Laws are obeyed by good citizens.
So when laws are tightened it's the citizens who are hurt.

Anyway;

Charlie (RIP) said it best;

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[That_Guy]

"Necessity is the mother of invention."

Sitting around watching basically human slaves working the fields isn't promoting innovation nor is it something to be proud of.

Plus you are making the assumption that these people jump the fence and want to do this job for the rest of their lives. What do you expect them to be doing when they get older?

They weren't slaves, they got paid. While it was lower than national average, a lot of them got paid above minimum wage.

I didn't make that assumption, YOU did. Your entire argument revolves around these people coming into the US and being an economic burden.

The reality is that many of them build businesses, go to school, pay taxes, and thrive. They put more into the system than they take, and this is an indisputable fact.

Your argument falls apart from its very premise that these people are a net-negative on the US economy.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

They weren't slaves, they got paid. While it was lower than national average, a lot of them got paid above minimum wage.

I didn't make that assumption, YOU did. Your entire argument revolves around these people coming into the US and being an economic burden.

The reality is that many of them build businesses, go to school, pay taxes, and thrive. They put more into the system than they take, and this is an indisputable fact.

Your argument falls apart from its very premise that these people are a net-negative on the US economy.

How come Canada doesn't ditch their Seasonal Agricultural Worker Program (SAWP) and just leave their border wide open?

Why are you perpetually bitchin' about us trying to enforce our program but completely silent about yours?

Just leave Canada's borders wide open and take in our 10M+ illegal immigrants because you'll have no problems collecting taxes from them to cover any expenses because they'll all be creating businesses causing your GDP to skyrocket overnight. Infact maybe ICE can dump them all on your border since you seem to think there will not be any problem feeding and housing them all.

 

[That_Guy]

How come Canada doesn't ditch their Seasonal Agricultural Worker Program (SAWP) and just leave their border wide open?

Why are you perpetually bitchin' about us trying to enforce our program but completely silent about yours?

Just leave Canada's borders wide open and take in 100M immigrants because you'll have no problems collecting taxes from them to cover any expenses because they'll all be creating businesses. Infact maybe Trump can dump them all on your border since you seem to think there will not be any problem feeding and housing them all.

Because Canada's conditions and problems aren't the same as America's.

There aren't 100 million illegal migrants in the US. Stop making things up.

Ita funny how you're once again resorting to whatboutism, instead of actually addressing my points.

Also, Canada did try to increase immigration. It was only slowed down this year because of a lack of housing. In fact, Canada considers it a matter of national security to increase its population to 100 million by 2100, and immigration is likely going to pick up when the housing situation is properly funded within a few years time. And guess what? This is an across the political spectrum thing, even the right wing agree on (they just disagree on time line and methods).

America doesn't have this problem of housing.

Anyway....brother, if this is the best argument you have, then you're not gonna convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you, like our resident nazi.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Also, Canada did try to increase immigration. It was only slowed down this year because of a lack of housing. I

Oh, so why should that be an issue....apparently you think we don't have a housing problem and people running across our border is perfectly fine.

n fact, Canada considers it a matter of national security to increase its population to 100 million by 2100, and immigration is likely going to pick up when the housing situation is properly funded within a few years time.

Well how about letting us do that too?

Anyway....brother, if this is the best argument you have, then you're not gonna convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you, like our resident nazi.

Apparently doing something in an orderly manner (instead of chaos at border fences) only applies to Canada.




This is the number of people CAUGHT at our border (ie doesn't count the people who got through) It far exceeds our legal immigration numbers.

America doesn't have this problem of housing

uh-huh
People wonder why there is a shortage of low income housing...

 

[That_Guy]

Oh, so why should that be an issue....apparently you think we don't have a housing problem and people running across our border is perfectly fine.

Your country does not. It has plenty of empty houses, and abandoned buildings, your nation just chooses to be stupid about it.

Well how about letting us do that too?

Lmao. Like I said, America doesn't have a housing problem.



You think I'm stopping or complaining why you're doing what you're doing? I'm not.



I WANT you guys to continue on this path, because it only helps Canada free itself of your country's influence.

Apparently doing something in an orderly manner (instead of chaos at border fences) only applies to Canada.


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Chatgpt isn't reliable way to do any sort of research. The fact that you have to resort to it to counter a point I NEVER MADE just proves your argument has failed.

This is the number of people CAUGHT at our border (ie doesn't count the people who got through) It far exceeds our legal immigration numbers.


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And? How does this counter what I said? LOL

People wonder why there is a shortage of low income housing...

FYI, the reason why there is a low income housing issue in the US has nothing to do with illegal immigrants, who don't qualify for it due to illegal status. The issue is that your country doesn't fund it properly, because your country is run by out of touch elites and oligarchs. Morons who care about property value and investing in housing for purely profiteering, instead of funding housing to actually live in.

You're making very bad arguments.

Like I said, you're not gonna do a gotcha with me, because I WANT your country to continue doing what it's doing.

The only difference between you and me is that I recognize this is not gonna end well for the US in the medium to long term, while you think it'll help the US.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yep, 100%.
Criminals don't obey the laws, that's why they are called criminals.
Laws are obeyed by good citizens.
So when laws are tightened it's the citizens who are hurt.

Anyway;

Charlie (RIP) said it best;

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Due to inflation, the gym sock full of nickels I keep has been upgraded. It's now full of quarters.

 

[Waz]

Due to inflation, the gym sock full of nickels I keep has been upgraded. It's now full of quarters.

Good old school trick.
Do they have concealed carry in your state?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Due to inflation, the gym sock full of nickels I keep has been upgraded. It's now full of quarters.

haha! So awesome!

Could be worse...a lock.

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