Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Mobius]

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[Persian Gulf]

Syrians have no weapons to respond with. Maybe a few dozen drones and several hundred primitive rockets.

Israel will continue to the bully the weak in the region and may try to occupy Damascus in the near future.

what will Turkey do about it? they always criticised Iran when Israel bombed Syria but now they are very quiet.

Iran at least stationed troops in south Syria, armed the Syrian government and Hezbollah, and fired drones and missiles into Israel from Syria.

 

[Falcon29]

Israeli rampage in Syria is a mockery of the entire Arab system and a targeting of the entire region

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[Falcon29]

what will Turkey do about it? they always criticised Iran when Israel bombed Syria but now they are very quiet.

The state or random people on a forum? Lebanon is being attacked on a daily basis as well, but Hezbollah is not responding.

Iran at least stationed troops in south Syria, armed the Syrian government and Hezbollah, and fired drones and missiles into Israel from Syria.

Iran wasn't trying to prevent Israeli strikes on Syria and was never able to. Turkey wouldn't be able to either. Because there is no will among the people to confront Israel.

With exception of Hamas, no one actually seeks to confront Israel. They got dragged into the recent conflict or didn't participate in any way.

It's disturbing that so many Muslims aren't even morally prepared to confront the Jewish terrorists.

 

[Persian Gulf]

The state or random people on a forum? Lebanon is being attacked on a daily basis as well, but Hezbollah is not responding.

Hezbollah fought even before Israel invaded Lebanon, and they lost, but still forced Israel to withdraw. HTS terrorists did not even fight Israel yet.

Iran wasn't trying to prevent Israeli strikes on Syria and was never able to. Turkey wouldn't be able to either. Because there is no will among the people to confront Israel.

People blamed Iran for those airstrikes. Now Iran is gone, maybe they start to realise Iran was just the excuse of the day.

Turkey shares a border with Syria and should be able to leverage their air force and air defences much easier than Iran could.

With exception of Hamas, no one actually seeks to confront Israel.

Hezbollah wasn't 'dragged' into the war. Hamas started the war and Hezbollah voluntarily joined it the next day, and paid every price imaginable while sectarian Arabs mocked them for months (while Hamas praises them).

Iran launched 500+ missiles and drones into Israel last year (directly). After retarded sectarian Arabs spent years telling us Iran and Israel were secretly allies. Iran's missiles have major problems that need to be fixed but the IRGC is working on it. People thought Operation True Promise II wouldn't happen. But suddenly it did. And once the issues with the missiles (ineffective heat shields and poor accuracy) have been rectified, True Promise III will take place. You can believe it or not, but what is for sure is that in that time no Arab state will dream about attacking Israel.

 

[FuturePAF]

Syrians have no weapons to respond with. Maybe a few dozen drones and several hundred primitive rockets.

Israel will continue to the bully the weak in the region and may try to occupy Damascus in the near future.

Is Israel forcing the new Syrian regime into the hands of the Iranians if this is what Israel is going to do anyway. Syria will feel it needs means to defend itself.

With Assad out, and with time and pressure, this is what might happen, even with the history of bad blood, unless the Arabs unify and do something for themselves, before the Iranians find a new partner to work with.

 

[Falcon29]

Hezbollah fought even before Israel invaded Lebanon, and they lost, but still forced Israel to withdraw. HTS terrorists did not even fight Israel yet.

I don't think you understand, Israel is bombing Lebanon, north of Litani river, on a nightly basis. Hezbollah is not responding. It's hypocritical to demand Syrians to respond for same reason. Syrians just came out of a 13 year long war.

So the point is to defy the new Syrian government and egg them on into a conflict so that they collapse and fail to rule Syria.

People blamed Iran for those airstrikes. Now Iran is gone, maybe they start to realise Iran was just the excuse of the day.

You must be referring to Saudi trolls on. The difference is Iran and Hezbollah claimed to intervene in Syria for anti-Israel reasons.

If somebody cannot see by now that Israel doesn't need a excuse to commit to a aggression, then they are blind.

Turkey shares a border with Syria and should be able to leverage their air force and air defences much easier than Iran could.

Turkey has no interest in getting into a war with Israel.

Hezbollah wasn't 'dragged' into the war. Hamas started the war and Hezbollah voluntarily joined it the next day, and paid every price imaginable while sectarian Arabs mocked them for months (while Hamas praises them).

The pressure was high for the axis to join the front, especially after public request by Hamas military chief. It's up for debate whether they felt compelled or not.

Iran launched 500+ missiles and drones into Israel last year (directly). After retarded sectarian Arabs spent years telling us Iran and Israel were secretly allies. Iran's missiles have major problems that need to be fixed but the IRGC is working on it. People thought Operation True Promise II wouldn't happen. But suddenly it did. And once the issues with the missiles (ineffective heat shields and poor accuracy) have been rectified, True Promise III will take place. You can believe it or not, but what is for sure is that in that time no Arab state will dream about attacking Israel.

Good for Iran. Iran doesn't want a war with Israel. Same with Arabs and Turkey. This is a ideological dilemma. Only Hamas and Houthis ideologically views Jewish people as a religious and eternal enemy. Other Muslims in region don't atm. Which is why they ran away from confrontation and will continue to do so. At expense of their interests.

I would hope there's a TP3 coming, that kills people this time around. Otherwise it would not be wise to execute TP3. Israelis need to pay with blood and know that they can be killed. That should be the objective of any counter - Israeli measure that isn't providing support for Gaza.

TP2 achieved it's objective and was a successful deterrent strike, imo. TP3 will have to be different, if it happens.

 

[Falcon29]

Is Israel forcing the new Syrian regime into the hands of the Iranians if this is what Israel is going to do anyway. Syria will feel it needs means to defend itself.

With Assad out, and with time and pressure, this is what might happen, even with the history of bad blood, unless the Arabs unify and do something for themselves, before the Iranians find a new partner to work with.

Would Iran arm them and can it afford to do that ? It would take hundreds of millions of dollars if not billions. And what would Iran want in return? If US forces don't withdraw from eastern Syria, that will make it complicated.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Is Israel forcing the new Syrian regime into the hands of the Iranians if this is what Israel is going to do anyway. Syria will feel it needs means to defend itself.

With Assad out, and with time and pressure, this is what might happen, even with the history of bad blood, unless the Arabs unify and do something for themselves, before the Iranians find a new partner to work with.

no thanks. they wanted Iran out and Turkey in. lets see how that goes for them.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I don't think you understand, Israel is bombing Lebanon, north of Litani river, on a nightly basis. Hezbollah is not responding. It's hypocritical to demand Syrians to respond for same reason. Syrians just came out of a 13 year long war.

Well firstly Hezbollah is not the government in Lebanon, but HTS is supposedly the government in Syria. So it's not a logical comparison. In any event, Hezbollah fought a war with Israel and lost. But at least they fought and forced Israel to withdraw from 99% of occupied south Lebanon. HTS terrorists did not even try to oppose Israeli tanks deep inside Syria and. they continue to advance without facing any resistance.

Turkey has no interest in getting into a war with Israel.

You mean they won't defend Syria from Israel or even try to transfer advanced weapons to Syria?

The pressure was high for the axis to join the front, especially after public request by Hamas military chief. It's up for debate whether they felt compelled or not.

The pressure was high on Iran but Iran stayed out due to distance and not being prepared for this. But Hezbollah didn't hesitate and joined immediately.

Good for Iran. Iran doesn't want a war with Israel. Same with Arabs and Turkey.

Only one of those directly attacked Israel (twice) last year. Iran doesn't want war with Israel but the difference is that it is willing to fight the war if needed and is willing to arm those who do fight Israel on its borders. Cannot say the same for the Arab states (other than Yemen, Palestine and Lebanon) or Turkey.

This is a ideological dilemma. Only Hamas and Houthis ideologically views Jewish people as a religious and eternal enemy. Other Muslims in region don't atm. Which is why they ran away from confrontation and will continue to do so. At expense of their interests.

Hamas doesn't view Jewish people as an eternal enemy. They view Zionists as criminal occupiers who oppress their people, which is factually correct. Iran, Hezbollah, and Yemen (and Iraqi PMU) share this ideological opposition to Zionism. No other states do.

I would hope there's a TP3 coming, that kills people this time around. Otherwise it would not be wise to execute TP3. Israelis need to pay with blood and know that they can be killed.

Indeed.

 

[FuturePAF]

Would Iran arm them and can it afford to do that ? It would take hundreds of millions of dollars if not billions. And what would Iran want in return? If US forces don't withdraw from eastern Syria, that will make it complicated.

Iran would want to rebuild its corridor to Lebanon. Perhaps not now, but relatively soon enough, although probably in a more low key manner, if only to rebuild its onion layers to keep Israel at bay.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran would want to rebuild its corridor to Lebanon. Perhaps not now, but relatively soon enough, although probably in a more low key manner, if only to rebuild its onion layers to keep Israel at bay.

thanks to these Turkish backed terrorists, Israel destroyed every advanced equipment and facility Syria accumulated over decades

even if they beg Iran to come back we should tell them to go to hell and let Turkey help them instead. good luck with that too, they will quickly realise turkey is not as generous (or stupid?) as iran.

 

[Falcon29]

Hezbollah fought a war with Israel and lost.

Hezbollah said they won.

But at least they fought and forced Israel to withdraw from 99% of occupied south Lebanon.

They definitely didn't force Israel. They agreed to Israel's demands and Israel withdrew over time.

Hezbollah has way more weapons and ability to respond to Israeli strikes and won't do so.

HTS is actually small, concentrated in small pockets of Syria and they don't have any weapons to be able to engage in a confrontation with Israel. Israel will just counter with a ground invasion and massive bombing campaign.

You're against that for Lebanon but you want it for Syria? I thought you were an objective person. Please prove me wrong.

You mean they won't defend Syria from Israel or even try to transfer advanced weapons to Syria?

Turks? Ofc not. Who's defending Syria? Don't tell me you thought Iran was, lol. I think we can expect Syrians to be able to defend Syria just as much as Hezbollah is able to defend Lebanon.

The pressure was high on Iran but Iran stayed out due to distance and not being prepared for this. But Hezbollah didn't hesitate and joined immediately.


Only one of those directly attacked Israel (twice) last year. Iran doesn't want war with Israel but the difference is that it is willing to fight the war if needed and is willing to arm those who do fight Israel on its borders. Cannot say the same for the Arab states (other than Yemen, Palestine and Lebanon) or Turkey.

No I disagree with you. You are too racist to be able to think clearly. Egypt and Iran are the two states that would fight a war waged upon them. And only two capable in my opinion.

Hamas doesn't view Jewish people as an eternal enemy. They view Zionists as criminal occupiers who oppress their people, which is factually correct. Iran, Hezbollah, and Yemen (and Iraqi PMU) share this ideological opposition to Zionism. No other states do.

Who are you to tell me what Hamas believes or doesn't. We absolutely do view Jewish people as a enemy because they are and we are obligated by God to oppose them. There is no hope for them as they keep waging war on believers as revealed by God himself. You cannot coexist with such people and Hamas will teach people to be wary of Jews.

 

[Falcon29]

thanks to these Turkish backed terrorists, Israel destroyed every advanced equipment and facility Syria accumulated over decades

even if they beg Iran to come back we should tell them to go to hell and let Turkey help them instead. good luck with that too, they will quickly realise turkey is not as generous (or stupid?) as iran.

Turkey and Arabs have to be forced to play their role in Syria. Nobody should help them otherwise Arabs remain complacent. They need to learn how to fend off Israeli aggression. Let's see if they actually want it, first. I have a bad feeling the Arabs don't care about supporting their allies because 'muh Islamist'. But I will give them the benefit of doubt.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran would want to rebuild its corridor to Lebanon. Perhaps not now, but relatively soon enough, although probably in a more low key manner, if only to rebuild its onion layers to keep Israel at bay.

Iran should stay out of MENA and this messy war and concentrate on trade ties with south-east Asia and greater Eurasia. The resistance against occupation should become a responsibility of Sunni Turks and Sunni Arabs first (including secular armies like the Lebanese, Egyptian, Jordanian) before any other group joins (be it Shia, Alevi, Christian etc).
Exception is that Israel attacks Iranian sites, then Iran should devestate Israeli infrastructure.