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Actually, you are wrong on this.The issue with born of citizens vs not is that one is a given for any country in the world - i.e descendants come with the status quo of the nation.
The other part is an addition - so if they’re good for the country it’s great and you’re adding to the great- but if they’re bad then you adding to the bad already here from criminal whites,blacks,asians,hispanics and so on.
Whats happening today is an extreme step because most Americans have been numbed with constant media barrages and amplified visibility of immigrants due to policies of decades.
There is Trumps solution - there is Musk’s wannabe Nazism - then there is a balance that is needed to be returned.
What that elusive formula is unknown and beyond to me - but to give you the idiotic nature of blue states - in my state harassment can be claimed by any identity if another reasonable person of that SAME identity says so too. In other words - someone who claims to be a transgender space cat can find me wearing a navy blue shirt in front of them offensive and get another person claiming to be a transgender space cat to say yes it’s offensive and I am now an accused criminal.
So an illegal here can be given status - and then accuse you of harassment if you use the word illegal in ANY context and get another illegal to testify.
Instead of allowing habeas corpus - having additional witnesses or opinions - you’re lowering the bar for cancel culture and ruining lives.
Whites are going to die out, no matter whatever you do. Its not a genocide, its a suicide.


I’m not suggesting suspending habeas corpus - the context I am referring to is cancel culture due to wokeism and certain laws in my state are diluting habeas corpus when it comes to accusations by certain groups.Actually, you are wrong on this.
Even if you suspend habeas corpus and throw these guys out to Guatmala or whatever, you will not get rid of them. A lot of them already have US passports because they are, duh, citizens. They have birth certificate, they have citizenship. Also they have ZERO citizenship other than USA.
What will happen is this: Trump will throw them out and fails to amend constitution, the moment Trump is out, they all will come rushing back.
So you are going to just delay things a bit but not prevent them if you do not amend the constitution.
So either amend constitution, or ensure that Trump is in power forever. I guess choice should not be hard.
There will be both legal crisis and constitutional crisis if Trump is dead set on using executive order to challenge the Constitution. Executive order is not actually the law of the land, it's a direction of how federal government work, as it was, it may not be legal, this WILL have consequences once the executive order is rescinded, people are going to sue the federal government, all those federal workers that was force out of retirement or otherwise forced to be downsized WILL sue, all those people that was forcibly removed, whether or not they are legal US resident WILL sue. All those were not granted citizenship being born in the US as per Trump executive order WILL sue.Actually, you are wrong on this.
Even if you suspend habeas corpus and throw these guys out to Guatmala or whatever, you will not get rid of them. A lot of them already have US passports because they are, duh, citizens. They have birth certificate, they have citizenship. Also they have ZERO citizenship other than USA.
What will happen is this: Trump will throw them out and fails to amend constitution, the moment Trump is out, they all will come rushing back.
So you are going to just delay things a bit but not prevent them if you do not amend the constitution.
So either amend constitution, or ensure that Trump is in power forever. I guess choice should not be hard.
State can't dilute Habeas Corpus......This is a federal right, as in all citizens within the 50 US states are the Federal Subject of the United States of America. So the government can have the body of the subject (which is what Habeas Corpus mean.....)I’m not suggesting suspending habeas corpus - the context I am referring to is cancel culture due to wokeism and certain laws in my state are diluting habeas corpus when it comes to accusations by certain groups.
Trump and Musk have made some very strong enemies now and have messed with US constitution and federal workers so much now that once they lose power, they are in for a world of pain.There will be both legal crisis and constitutional crisis if Trump is dead set on using executive order to challenge the Constitution. Executive order is not actually the law of the land, it's a direction of how federal government work, as it was, it may not be legal, this WILL have consequences once the executive order is rescinded, people are going to sue the federal government, all those federal workers that was force out of retirement or otherwise forced to be downsized WILL sue, all those people that was forcibly removed, whether or not they are legal US resident WILL sue. All those were not granted citizenship being born in the US as per Trump executive order WILL sue.
Unless America become a dictatorship, and have successive MAGA administration in the foreseeable future, once this is all over, there are going to be tons of court cases from just about everywhere, thousand if not millions of class action on the federal government. Last time when Trump did his deed on border and separate the minor from their parent, we settled with 1.8 billion dollars with each of the 4000 plaintiffs all paid 450,000 and also come out with a green card. This time his executive order affected millions of people, both US and non-US resident. The number is going to be astronomical. And it will not be Trump administration who pays, it will be the next guy because class action lawsuit take time, there are no way you can get it done in 4 years, so the next guy is going to cop it.
On the other hand, Trump keep using executive order to by-pass the constitution, this is going to pitch the SCOTUS against the executive Office one day, now who have a stronger will? SCOTUS is not going to strip themselves off their judiciary power which mean if it DID clash, this is going to paralyse the entire country.
I wonder what is the plan because they now HAVE to remain in power. Either US becomes a dictatorship or there is going to be a reckoning for these two chaps. Especially Musk.
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