Attack on Jaffer Express

[Reichmarshal]

Thr SOP for all military personal traveling to n from while performing I.S duty should be mandatory to carry ur smg....other than traveling via plane....
How freaking embarrassing it is for more then 100 military person to get caught

 

[RescueRanger]

How freaking embarrassing it is for more then 100 military person to get caught

When a solider is off duty, he is no more than a civilian, it is not like captures a train of 100 soldiers armed and equipped to fight back.

 

[r3alist]

Shouldn't be worth our time. Focus should lie elsewhere.

Paid mouthpiece what can you expect.

I have been observing Indian media and "influencers" all singing and dancing. They were all very happy and had thought this would lead to greater instability and embarrassment for the nation.

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I don't think this territory should be ceded passively.... as a norm.

This is glorification of a tragedy

At minimum, it can be stated and amplified inwardly at least.

 

[RescueRanger]

I don't think this territory should be ceded passively.... as a norm.

This is glorification of a tragedy

At minimum, it can be stated and amplified inwardly at least.

Yes I agree with you.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Terrorism is not something that is defeated so easily. There is no disprin or magical panacea that would act like a silver bullet to solve this long entrenched tumour.

Not quite right...
Pakistan has simultaneous and concurrent, two separate forms of insurgency, two separate and opposing ideologies.

In fact and oddly enough the insurgency in Sistan is religiously motivated and its sister in Pakistan is a nationalist, secular and economic one.
It proves that these ideologies seek to fill a vacuum, one of real political representation. They aim to fulfill that... every dead on their end is a martyr for the cause and a source to inspire more...

They will fall out of favor, sooner the state gives them their own perch and pedestal. Empower them to tackle their devils. By assuming these people are hopless and throwing more men and firepower will break their will, only invigorates them, provides them the impetus and a feeling that perhaps they're on the right cause and in doing so make deals with devil... money, weapons, training and support.
Let them sort out their grievances and stop their kids to hop on a bandwagon of death... a self serving cycle of violence.

 

[r3alist]

Yes I agree with you.

It's no small thing, right?

I would love to hear her response if someone simply said...a terrorist act and tragedy has happened, why do you lead with a narrative exploiting the situation and platforming the terrorist pov

It's also a useful bookmark to remind them of their response to terrorism in Pakistan

 

[RealNapster]

Terrorism is often misunderstood. Terrorism as a concept finds fertile ground in a vacuum of political, economic and social stability.

So you want to say that IOK is politically, economically, and socially more stable than Baluchistan ?

Now who should we blame for this ? The Sardars of Baluchistan ? Or the one still keeping sardars in-charge ?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Fair criticism, but then what is the solution, again I hate to repeat myself but without national consensus on the subject we find ourselves at an impasse do we not?

All politics is local. This should bea storm in a tea cup!

 

[arjunk]

If Politicians are responsible for bad economy and governance, how is military and intelligence agencies not responsible for increase in terrorism ?

Baluchis maybe not so much in love with Pakistani federation these days (although I don't agree that they are anti-national in general. They have grievances ), but I am sure the extent of hatred is not more than that of India among Jammu&Kashmir population. Still, how often do you hear such attacks happening in Indian occupied Kashmir these days ? Which major attack in Kashmir can you remember (without googling) after pulwama ? Think on this, and you will get the answer. It's performance issue that people here are pointing out, not hatred for fauj. It is our fauj and we love it. But it needs to deliver

Pakistan Army is extremely lenient and light handed.

Balochistan has the most autonomy of any place in the world. The provincial police have no jurisdiction. It’s 100% civilian supremacy rule by local tribes.


Indians have more troops in Kashmir (700,000) than the entire Pak army active force combined (600,000).

India commits brutal atrocities to control Kashmir, from mass rapes to killing lakhs of Kashmiris to arresting them for not cheering for the Indian cricket team. And this is all in a foreign territory India has no right to interfere in , while Balochistan is legally an internationally recognized part of Pakistan.

Pakistani wokiyas have no idea about how bad occupied Kashmir is, it’s an insult to us Kashmiri and the brutalities we endured when you compare occupied Kashmir to Pakistan.

 

[Fatman17]

Dear Members, please prevent spreading misinformation and enemy propaganda on PDF and other social sites!

The video in this tweet is a perfect example of why when you have security incidents like this it is wise to double check your sources before sharing content.

The above video was originally shared by an Indian account:

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before being picked up by "OSINT" pundits.

It was then shared via another Indian account:

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This same video was shared multiple times by several Indian accounts on x namely:

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Sunaina Bhola on X: "Sad but true 😑 You reap what you sow. #Pakistan is facing the same. #balochliberationarmy has hijacked one train with Pak Army troops. Pray its gets resolved.🙏 #TrainHijack #Baloch #RJMahvash #ChennaiRains #War2 #KajalAgarwal #Cy

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With a total 137,000 views at the time of backing up these tweets.

The same video was shared by Chinese Media:

巴基斯坦火車遇襲　武裝分子挾持過百人

【Now新聞台】巴基斯坦一架火車遇襲，武裝分子挾持車上過百人。

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巴基斯坦火車遇襲　武裝分子挾持過百人

【Now新聞台】巴基斯坦一架火車遇襲，武裝分子挾持車上過百人。

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信報即時新聞 - 時事脈搏 - 巴基斯坦火車遇襲逾400乘客遭劫持 俾路支解放軍認責 - 信報網站 hkej.com

巴基斯坦軍方消息人士周二向新華社記者證實，該國西南部俾路支省境內一列載有超過400名乘客的火車遇襲，武裝份子已脅持部分乘客為人質。 當地警方說，武裝分子挾持35名人質，近350名乘客相信安全。 事發在當地時間下午1時左右，地點位於錫比縣地區一個車站附近，分離主義武裝組織俾路支解放軍(BLA)承認責任，該組織警告稱，如果試圖營救人質，將會產生嚴重後果。

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Clearly this video was a fake as the attack occurred inside the Tunnel known as Windy Pass Tunnel also known as Tunnel Number 8 locally. This video shows a train being attacked in open space which doesn't tally with available facts.

Secondly, using some open source tools this same video appeared in 2022 from an X user

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with the title: The BLA has apparently attacked a train carrying Pakistani soldiers.

Another search revealed that this video was shared in April 2022 by an Indian account

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With the title: BLA has released footage of an IED attack on Train carrying FC(Frontier Corps) near Sibbi, Balochistan.

No such incident had even been verified, and clearly this video was faked and not linked to any attack in Pakistan.

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A pro Pakistani X account shared visuals from a video game

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This same video was shared on other twitter accounts:

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This video was also uploaded in 2017 on Youtube and is identical to the video shared in the tweets:

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FAKE VIDEO!

Interestingly this same video was shared by Putin with the Western Media to show a Russian Gunship targeting ISIS in Syria:

This video is in fact of a US Apache targeting Taliban militants in Afghanistan:

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Today at the height of a sensitive security operation an account that appeared to be a PML-N supporter based on their past posts alleged that PTI Secretary General Salman Akram Raja stated that party founder Imran Khan had ordered support for human rights activist Mahrang Baloch and the BLA. The post alleged that Imran knew in advance about the attack and hence had ordered the support.

The post garnered over 76,000 views.

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It was also shared by two further twitter accounts gaining over 47,000 views

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However, checking the clip shared in the posts showed that Raja did not mention BLA and only stated that the PTI would invite Mahrang to Islamabad.

A review of his from his press conference on February 27, 2025, alongside other opposition leaders, also confirmed that he did not reference the BLA at any point. Instead, he emphasised inviting Mahrang to Islamabad as a representative of the voice of the people of Balochistan.
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So please I urge all members to kindly double check your sources, don't share terrorism or malicious content, if you are unsure better to not share it. Always #Factcheck

For more information on how you can conduct basic fact checks, read my detailed post here:

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Misinformation, Disinformation and Mal-Information​

"Misinformation can feel like an insurmountable problem, something that only tech giants and social media platforms can solve. But actually, we can each take steps to help stop it spreading, and these actions will have a direct impact on our own communities, friends and family.” – Jen Thomas, Creative Producer, Verified."

Misinformation should not be confused with quality journalism and the circulation of...

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@Waz @Musings @Fatman17 @Bilal

Great job

 

[RescueRanger]

So you want to say that IOK is politically, economically, and socially more stable than Baluchistan ?

Now who should we blame for this ? The Sardars of Baluchistan ? Or the one still keeping sardars in-charge ?

I have discussed this multiple times at great length, I feel that people don't read my posts and I end up repeating myself endlessly.

I have already discussed that in this post:

Thread 'Understanding Balochistan'

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Image 1: Map of Pakistan with province of Balochistan highlighted in red. [Image (C) Creative Commons. Attributed****]

1. Introduction

Pakistan is a federal parliamentary republic, a federation made up of many different units. Pakistan has confronted the challenge of nationalist dogma based in the ethnic identities within its provinces of Balochistan, KP, GB and Sindh between issues of agency, political autonomy, resource allocation and economic inequality. Ever mounting governance issues, political instability, discrimination, enfeebled social development have also been...

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[RealNapster]

Jaffar Express attack: 21 passengers, 4 FC personnel lost lives as security forces kill ‘all terrorists’: DG ISPR​

• Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry says 33 terrorists killed and no civilian harmed during clearance operation

If 70-80 terrorists attacked as per ministry of interior. And 33 are killed. How is it "All killed" ?

 

[arjunk]

Pakistan Army is extremely lenient and light handed.

Balochistan has the most autonomy of any place in the world. The provincial police have no jurisdiction. It’s 100% civilian supremacy rule by local tribes.


Indians have more troops in Kashmir (700,000) than the entire Pak army active force combined (600,000).

India commits brutal atrocities to control Kashmir, from mass rapes to killing lakhs of Kashmiris to arresting them for not cheering for the Indian cricket team. And this is all in a foreign territory India has no right to interfere in , while Balochistan is legally an internationally recognized part of Pakistan.

Pakistani wokiyas have no idea about how bad occupied Kashmir is, it’s an insult to us Kashmiri and the brutalities we endured when you compare occupied Kashmir to Pakistan.

India doesn’t view Kashmiris as human. We look different, talk different, act different, and are overall geographically and historically a foreign nation to India.

This makes it easy for Indians to commit atrocities against us.

On the other hand it is very difficult for a Pakistani soldier to be harsh to his fellow countrymen of the same religion and blood, regardless of what followers of a certain cult claim.

This is why we had no hesitation about attacking India and killing Indians after a single failed balakot attack but hesitate to strike Afghanistan and Iran after multiple high casualty terror attacks.

 

[RescueRanger]

All politics is local. This should bea storm in a tea cup!

Andrew Gelman who coined this phrase also went on to say... "Politics is less local than it used to be."

 

[arjunk]

India doesn’t view Kashmiris as human. We look different, talk different, act different, and are overall geographically and historically a foreign nation to India.

This makes it easy for Indians to commit atrocities against us.

On the other hand it is very difficult for a Pakistani soldier to be harsh to his fellow countrymen of the same religion and blood, regardless of what followers of a certain cult claim.

This is why we had no hesitation about attacking India and killing Indians after a single failed balakot attack but hesitate to strike Afghanistan and Iran after multiple high casualty terror attacks.

There is 10000x more censorship and suppression in IOK than all of Pakistan combined. In fact the censorship in IOK is worse than occupied Palestine.