Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Starlord
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At this Point Palestinian death is just a number, their own kin in middle east has forsake them and leave them for vultures, look how when Ukraine a European country was attacked the whole EU gathered to send them weapons and support, sanction Russia and cut ties with Russians, more or less 100,000 dead Palestinians and Gaza destroyed, West Bank under attack and Arabs are just condemning, holding meeting in their fancy palaces and hosting lavish Iftar parties, just imagine for a starving kid to watch the Leaders of their kin relaxing and chilling in Gold palaces completely ignorant of them (Palestinians), I think this is the end of Palestinian cause, and will mark a new beginning towards expanding Israel border in 3 directions, Lebanon/Jordan/Syria. Egypt is still kinda tough cookie but with same Majan/choran of rocket attacks or Terrorism or self defense they will eventually also take over Sinai.
All that Boycott, meetings etc means nothing as the Genocide and Ethnic cleansing is happening right before our eyes while the world stand silent, for less than 50 Hostage the world has accepted 100's of deaths, never once in Human history that was acceptable, just tell me one instance where a country killed 100's of civilians just so their hostages can be released ? But its all ok because its the Palestinians because they are nothing but a Number, and funny thing is here Arab members proudly own Palestinians as Arabs and their own while Practically did nothing to stop their suffering for years and in this past year or so.
All that Boycott, meetings etc means nothing as the Genocide and Ethnic cleansing is happening right before our eyes while the world stand silent, for less than 50 Hostage the world has accepted 100's of deaths, never once in Human history that was acceptable, just tell me one instance where a country killed 100's of civilians just so their hostages can be released ? But its all ok because its the Palestinians because they are nothing but a Number, and funny thing is here Arab members proudly own Palestinians as Arabs and their own while Practically did nothing to stop their suffering for years and in this past year or so.
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Ukraine is not surrounded by Russia..like Gaza is totally under the control of Israel.. think clearer next time..
_Arabia_
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I have said this time and time again. For the world to stop Israel you need to reign in its master (USA). As long as the US is controlled and infiltrated by Zionists, Israel and the terrorists it represents, will have a free reign to do anything it wants to.
China and Russia (Russia itself is dominated by Jewish Russian oligarchs and the entire Russian system is an alliance of the KGB with the Russian oligarchs) cannot do anything or are simply unwilling to do anything.
If people had a solution to this 77 year old ongoing mess, I want to believe that a solution would have been found already.
China and Russia (Russia itself is dominated by Jewish Russian oligarchs and the entire Russian system is an alliance of the KGB with the Russian oligarchs) cannot do anything or are simply unwilling to do anything.
If people had a solution to this 77 year old ongoing mess, I want to believe that a solution would have been found already.
hussain0216
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Yeah we KNOW
it's the Arab states that keep treating the U.S as a investment destination and source of weapons and support
The U.S of old it's gone, it's a vile new controlled danger to the world
People are boycotting it, it's up to the Arabs to boycott and plan for the regions future without the Jews and the U.S
Sultan Baybars
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There was a 3-phase deal. A deal is a deal.
Hamas kept the deal and was very strictly.
The Shylocks tried to change the deal with constantly new demands.
We wouldnt have these problems if the Germans did their job correctly.
Meengla
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Somewhere in this video even the great Larry C. Johnson is admitting he was wrong to assume that Trump would act differently from Biden. I remember months ago Larry said something like 'I think Trump is going to make a deal'; he was suggesting Trump would be more even handed.
Oh, Larry! You, of all people, should have known better!! Trump's political 'base' has no empathy with anyone except the Anglos and Israel! But hats off to Larry for admitting that he was wrong about Trump. I KNEW exactly what Trump would do but even I am surprised by his total obedience to Netanyahu!!
In this or another video, Larry is hopeful that after stopping the Ukraine war, Trump would, hopefully, take on the Zionist lobby in America. I hope Larry would prove right on that but I have very low hopes.
PS. A big problem with people like Larry is that they have their blinders: They think that Trump, being anti Ukraine war, would act like a peace-maker elsewhere. Lots of the anti Ukraine war supported Trump with false hopes for general world peace. A little lazy thinking. A little too much faith.
Oh, Larry! You, of all people, should have known better!! Trump's political 'base' has no empathy with anyone except the Anglos and Israel! But hats off to Larry for admitting that he was wrong about Trump. I KNEW exactly what Trump would do but even I am surprised by his total obedience to Netanyahu!!
In this or another video, Larry is hopeful that after stopping the Ukraine war, Trump would, hopefully, take on the Zionist lobby in America. I hope Larry would prove right on that but I have very low hopes.
PS. A big problem with people like Larry is that they have their blinders: They think that Trump, being anti Ukraine war, would act like a peace-maker elsewhere. Lots of the anti Ukraine war supported Trump with false hopes for general world peace. A little lazy thinking. A little too much faith.
_Arabia_
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I believe that you are in your 40's. You are old enough to understand that the current world order (on practically every front) is a Western created world order. You now just as well that Arab regimes in the past have been the most anti-Zionist regimes in history. You also know that those countries paid the ultimate price. No need to mention them here. You know just as well as me that Arabs (for that matter all Muslims combined) have no chance militarily or economically against the combined power of USA (alone) let alone the entire West/NATO/Zionists.
So as events on the ground (facts of life) have showed since WW2, it is much better for Arab and Muslim states to at least have non-hostile relations with the US than the opposite. Evidence of this is before the eyes of everyone.
You can call this being a "coward, traitor" and what not of childlish insults (as if nation states or leaderships of nation states care about such claims or tags - real life geopolitics are a game of interests), but as long as non-Arab Muslims are equally as incompetent against the combined USA/West/NATO, you have no right to continue bashing 550 million Arabs and 20 + Arab states (when Arabs have done the by far biggest sacrifices against the US/West of any Muslim region - historically too - crusades, colonialism - which is only natural given geography and history - so not any self-praise here as there is no need for that) while remaining silent when the non-Arabs are as equally incompetent (let alone China and Russia who have not changed the current Western world order or done anything to stop Israel), is frankly being dishonest and hard to take serious.
But I am already used to, being one of the few active remaining Arab users on this forum, that constant Arab bashing is the favourite past time of many users here to the point that I see more anti-Arab rhetoric than actual anti-Israel/Zionist rhetoric at times which is both mad and sad at the same time.
And let us be brutally frank here. Arabs have nothing to do with whatever occurred in Europe during WW2 of Holocaust (or what not) and Jewish persecution. In fact the Arab Jews (majority of Jews in Israel today) lived under the rule of Arabs for millennia and under the protection of Arabs and largely flourished from Morocco to Yemen to Iraq. The entire problem emerged with the Eastern European Zionists and their Zionist project. To the extent that most Arab Jews did not even want to leave for Israel in the first place.
And the Arab world due to our enormous wealth, enormous size, strategic location, control of main global waterways, enormous human potential and cradle of civilization (home to the oldest recorded civilizations and cultures on the planet and oldest cities) and the birthplace of Islam (the main geopolitical rival of the West historically in the past 1400 years) and future demographics (by 2050 the Arab world will have 1 billion people) has been under constant attack by the West. The post-WW2 world order is just a continuation of what occurred during the Crusades and prior to that and after that. Nobody has any illusions or is surprised.
This is also where the whole Eurobia theory emerged from:
Eurabia conspiracy theory - Wikipedia
Sultan Baybars
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We may doubt that. It could be the Turks (Ottomans, Seljuks, Mamluks etc).
Battles between Turks from all tribes and dynasties against the Christian powers are countless from the first time they entered Anatolia in the 11th century till WO I in 1914 and the Cyprus operation in the ‘70’s.
Arabs stopped fighting after the destruction of Andalusia and the end of the Ummayad Empire till 1948.
_Arabia_
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Turks were not relevant in the Arab world or the Levant until 1517. The Mamluks were completely Arabized and not Turks in their majority but Circassians (Caucasian group of people which ironically is closely related to Arabs in terms of Y-DNA). The Turks of the Mamluks (means slave in Arabic - they were Central Asian Turks sold to Arabs as slaves and used as mercenaries) were from Central Asia too and not Anatolia.
The Ottomans (majority of the population were Arabs) did not fight any Jews either or Zionists. In fact Jews had disproportionate influence and power in the Ottoman bureaucracy and the Ottomans also welcomed the Jews from Al-Andalus when the Arabs lost control of Spain/Portugal after 800 years in 1492. Afterwards most Muslims and Jews were expelled. Since 1948 it has all been Arabs on this front though, this cannot be denied. I have seen no-non Arabs to date fighting Israel directly.
Arabs ruled the caliphate and most of the Muslim heartlands from the very beginning until 1517. So you are wrong with about 750 years.
Besides the Umayyads were the largest and most influential Caliphate and Muslim rulers in history. They conquered most of the non-Muslim lands as well from Spain/Portugal/France in the West to China (Western China) in the East. It was one of the largest empires in recorded history and the largest from West Asia in recorded history. They also built the Al-Aqsa mosque and the Dome of the Rock that are still standing in all their glory in Al-Quds almost 1350/1300 years after. Their legacy is the Arab world (the size of Russia) spanning 2 continents and all its heritage during that time period. Their importance cannot be underestimated.
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Meengla
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This poor woman!
But you aint' seen nothing! Netanyahu is going to MILK Trump. Netanyahu was greatly rattled by the student protests because he, rightly, saw shades of the Vietnam War in those protests. He will go after Muslims/Arabs via Trump!
Oh, I'd love to see what the stupid Trump Selfies Imams are saying these days!! Hahahahahahhahahahh! People live in America for decades and yet don't have even the basic political understanding. No wonder the Zionists are winning against the 'intellect' like that!
But you aint' seen nothing! Netanyahu is going to MILK Trump. Netanyahu was greatly rattled by the student protests because he, rightly, saw shades of the Vietnam War in those protests. He will go after Muslims/Arabs via Trump!
Oh, I'd love to see what the stupid Trump Selfies Imams are saying these days!! Hahahahahahhahahahh! People live in America for decades and yet don't have even the basic political understanding. No wonder the Zionists are winning against the 'intellect' like that!
F-22Raptor
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Garcia Sea
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I feel compelled to say something harsh.
Even as such a massive massacre is taking place, Sunni people continue to hate only Iran and the Shia, not Israel or the United States.
I have even seen Palestinians welcoming HTS, which is cozying up to Israel, and cheering them on for striking Assad with an iron fist.
To begin with, during the Arab Spring, Hamas, just like the people of Gaza, supported Al-Qaeda, which attacked Syria and Hezbollah.
This was despite the fact that Hezbollah had just fought and shed blood to save Palestine.
I believe it is only fair to point out that the Sunnis have brought this upon themselves, as they remain trapped in sectarianism and discrimination, never standing up to their true enemies, no matter what evil they face.
This is because the people of Hezbollah and Iran have unilaterally and selflessly shed blood to help Palestinians, who continue to hate them.
Even as such a massive massacre is taking place, Sunni people continue to hate only Iran and the Shia, not Israel or the United States.
I have even seen Palestinians welcoming HTS, which is cozying up to Israel, and cheering them on for striking Assad with an iron fist.
To begin with, during the Arab Spring, Hamas, just like the people of Gaza, supported Al-Qaeda, which attacked Syria and Hezbollah.
This was despite the fact that Hezbollah had just fought and shed blood to save Palestine.
I believe it is only fair to point out that the Sunnis have brought this upon themselves, as they remain trapped in sectarianism and discrimination, never standing up to their true enemies, no matter what evil they face.
This is because the people of Hezbollah and Iran have unilaterally and selflessly shed blood to help Palestinians, who continue to hate them.
_Arabia_
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You are surprised that Arabs have no positive feelings for the Iranian Wilayat al-Faqih regime that since 1979 has done nothing but create hostility, division, sectarianism, 100's of terrorist proxies/militant groups, fifth columns, unwanted meddling in internal Arab affairs (only able to meddle in unstable Arab states)? Iranian-sponsored terrorism has killed more Arabs and more Muslims than even Zionist actions since 1979. We (vast majority of educated Arabs) consider both you (Iranian regime and Iranian regime supporters) and Zionists as the same thing. Enemies that are hellbent on meddling and weakening the Arab world. You both have proven time and time again that you have no goodwill against Arabs so we do not like you. I am astonished that you find it hard to realize this simple viewpoint. It is like if an Zionist was surprised why he is disliked by Arabs.
And the biggest joke is being surprised that 30 million Syrians are heavily against the Iranian regime when the same Iranian regime for 14 + years (during the Syrian civil war) and before that for decades (they have been allies since 1979) ACTIVELY helped (very heavily) a non-Muslim Nusayri regime that killed 500.000 + Syrians and forced 10 million Syrians to flee their own country. Is there no limit to you lots shamelessness?
Now the same Iranian regime is trying to create trouble/create terrorist Nusayri proxies with the sole goal/aim to weaken the new Syrian government. For the very same reason that criminal Lebanese Shia clans allied to Hezbollah are pissed off that their captagon and drug routes are now closed due to the Al-Assad regime no longer ruling Syria. 2 days ago those criminals stoned to death 3 Syrian soldiers that they kidnapped who were fighting those criminal Lebanese clans who are trying to restore their drug trade routes.
Let me tell you another crucial thing. Arabs have nothing against Shias. They are part of us and our community and culture. Shias originated in KSA/Arab world. All their main "holy sites" are located in the Arab world. They are Arabs and part and parcel of our people. In KSA Shias make up 10-15% of the population and are part of every sector and community in the country and many Shias have high positions in the private sphere and official sphere from ministers, to leaders of huge firms (Aramco included) to the military. Same story elsewhere in the GCC.
No that you guys (even remotely) have any patent on "Shias" or speak in the name of Shias worldwide, let alone Arab Shias.
Arabs were always tolerant people hence the very large amount of minorities in the Arab world. Religious, ethnic and what not. Not to mention that Arab Christians make up the largest native Christian group in the Muslim world. Prior to the establishment of Zionist Israel, the Arab world also hosted the largest (by far) Jewish community in the Muslim world.
You lot are just using sectarianism to further Iranian geopolitical goals/ambitions. If you remove the religious angle, you have ZERO ability to meddle among Shia Arab communities. That is why your meddling will naturally go away permanently when the Iranian people topple the incompetent Iranian regime which is just a question of time.
Once that happens (it will happen), Arabs and Iranians (regardless of ethnic groups, Iran is home to millions of Arabs remember), will work together and mostly have cordial ties which is also the ground reality on the ground mostly in the GCC (where the largest Iranian diaspora is present in the world - mostly Iranian Arabs, Sunni Persians, Baloch but also Shia Persians and Lurs) are living peacefully side by side with no problems whatsoever. Migrations have occurred on both sides of the Gulf for millennia as well.
Unlike many Iranians (who are still crying about events from 1400 years ago) who are anti-Arab and anti-Muslim, most Arabs (550 million + of which 90% have no exposure or clue about Iran due to geography and history, only us Arabians and Iraqis have any exposure to you guys due to geography and history - Syrians had recently), have no hatred (or any pro or negative feelings) for Iranians (people). We have far bigger fish to fry and far larger/stronger neigbhours to worry about. For starters Europe/West that we have an almost 10.000 long coastline/border with or in the case of Arabia across the Arabian Sea a horde of 1.6 billion Indians to just mention a few examples. Let alone Zionists/Israel. Heck, even though relations are good, Turkey is far stronger too among neighbours. Or 150 million big Ethiopia (in the future one of the most populous nations out there). No offence.
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