Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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The Gulf Arabs have always been secret allies of Israel. I feel sorry for the Palestinians because their Sunni brothers have sold them down river and they are doomed.
Who are those imaginary Gulf Arabs? The only. Gulf Arabs are Southern Iraqis (Basrawis and all the way down to the Northern Omani coastline). History and actual evidence on the ground completely disproves of this nonsense claim. As those all of Islamic history. In fact without Arabians there would be no Palestine, no Palestinians and no Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa and Dome of the Rock etc. in the first place. What you are writing no Palestinians with any ounce of respect for himself and his people and that of his own history and that of Arab and Islamic history, would agree with. Never heard it either. And the policies of one ruler (MbZ) and one entity composed of 7 separate entities (emirates) is not in any way representative of how locals in the GCC feel where the overwhelming majority from scholars, intellectuals, average people are completely anti-Zionist and pro-Palestine to the degree that the largest private donors since forever for the Palestinian cause and militant Palestinians groups have always been people from Arabia along with Egyptians. But your posts have long ago been disqualified for the sheer nonsense that they contain in regards to Arab affairs where ironically those that have contributed the most to the Palestinian cause, are being the ones constantly attacked. Hard to take seriously.
 
Sunni Arabs are not Sunni or Arabs

they are Zionist Wh@res

you know it and so does everyone else

@Musings here we have another example of the constant sectarian troll posts and constant insults aimed at 550 million Arabs and 20 + Arab nations here. It is as those individuals are living in some alternative universe or if they have zero clues about 1400 years of Islamic history or any modern day history since 1948.

Bro, why are you posting this sectarian bs?
For the reasons that I wrote already. To make politics out of a tragedy. And this guy in question is a self-confessed non-Muslim to begin with. Nothing wrong with that but....And the guy that he is quoting (Twitter troll) is a Houthi member, a 33 year old terrorist cult and militia that is trying to speak on the behalf of 35 million Yemenis and millions of Zaydis that have a 1350 year old history.
 
Bro, why are you posting this sectarian bs?
many Palestinians were celebrating the downfall of Assad and the rise of HTS

now we are asking where is HTS? is this why Hamas gambled and overplayed its hand in negotiations?

HTS is happy to attack Lebanon and Iran but not Israel, this is not sectarian to notice

and I don't necessarily agree with everything I share
 
Of course Hezbollah is over. Syria has fallen to the Zionists and the ISIS terrorists in control of Syria are colluding with Israel to wage war on Hezbollah even as Southern Syria is under Zionist occupation.
The supply line from Iran to Lebanon ran through thousands of miles and in between lay the American forces and 'assets' all the way from Iraq to the border of Lebanon. And just think about how many Arab nations, including Saudi Arabia, took part in the toppling of Saddam in 2003!!!! I read somewhere that 1 out of 5 shipments from Iran to Lebanon was destroyed by Israel and its backers. But the stupid people didn't see that toppling Assad was set in motion after the Hezb-Israel 2006 and they instead focused on some Imam Mahdi or some Jihadis or on their sectarian blinders. All the while Israelis were LASER FOCUSED on ensuring a Trump victory because they know who'd deliver for them. But the good thing is that the Biden admin was so horrible on inflation, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Ukraine War that the Middle East played almost no role in Kamala's defeat--so no real blaming the Trump Selfies Imam except to mock them for their historic stupidity. Hahaha!

At this point Israel should just declare US as their 2nd cross Atlantic defacto State, cause America has no free will when it comes to Israel, Israel say jump America say How high master?

A joke often said by Ray McGovern goes like this: 'President Nixon asked an Israeli leader as to why doesn't Israel become America's 51st State? The Israeli leader responded 'Why would we? Then we would have only 2 Senators!'. Hahahah!!!

I am starting to realize that the whole thing was done with ME's approval, I think deep down leaders like MBS, UAE and Qatar leaders have told American/Israel's to wipe out Gaza and take over Israel, build a one state. Maybe Israel have given them some assurance that Israel will not expand blah blah, and they (Arab) leaders believed, not a single bullet was fire from the Powerful Arab world, not a single statement of cutting ties etc, I am sure they are complicit in the Genocide, while some Palestinians still believe that Arabs are on their side.

Yes. But also the GCC Arabs tried and the failed in the past. And looking from the other side: Why would you destroy the lives of tens of millions for the lives of a few million Palestinians?? Also think about what the destruction of the GCC mean for countries like Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Philippines etc who heavily rely on the remittances from the GCC countries? Let's think through our decisions.

No words to describe the horror this terrorist state is conducting against men women and children in gaza. The zionists and their supporters will pay dearly one day and they will get no sympathy when its time for pay back, an eye for an eye.

Just a couple of years ago, even 1-2 Palestinian dead would make global headlines. What's happening now is the literal proof of Stalin's famous quote: 'One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic'. So sad.
 
The Gulf Arabs have always been secret allies of Israel. I feel sorry for the Palestinians because their Sunni brothers have sold them down river and they are doomed.
You are right, I am no fan of Iranians and don't agree with their proxies, but Arabs are on some next level of betrayal, first with Turks and now Palestinians.
 
The supply line from Iran to Lebanon ran through thousands of miles and in between lay the American forces and 'assets' all the way from Iraq to the border of Lebanon. And just think about how many Arab nations, including Saudi Arabia, took part in the toppling of Saddam in 2003!!!! I read somewhere that 1 out of 5 shipments from Iran to Lebanon was destroyed by Israel and its backers. But the stupid people didn't see that toppling Assad was set in motion after the Hezb-Israel 2006 and they instead focused on some Imam Mahdi or some Jihadis or on their sectarian blinders. All the while Israelis were LASER FOCUSED on ensuring a Trump victory because they know who'd deliver for them. But the good thing is that the Biden admin was so horrible on inflation, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Ukraine War that the Middle East played almost no role in Kamala's defeat--so no real blaming the Trump Selfies Imam except to mock them for their historic stupidity. Hahaha!



A joke often said by Ray McGovern goes like this: 'President Nixon asked an Israeli leader as to why doesn't Israel become America's 51st State? The Israeli leader responded 'Why would we? Then we would have only 2 Senators!'. Hahahah!!!



Yes. But also the GCC Arabs tried and the failed in the past. And looking from the other side: Why would you destroy the lives of tens of millions for the lives of a few million Palestinians?? Also think about what the destruction of the GCC mean for countries like Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Philippines etc who heavily rely on the remittances from the GCC countries? Let's think through our decisions.



Just a couple of years ago, even 1-2 Palestinian dead would make global headlines. What's happening now is the literal proof of Stalin's famous quote: 'One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic'. So sad.
My friend, this is blatant lie. KSA was never in support of the toppling of Saddam Hussein (a former ally) at all. In fact KSA openly warned about the tragedy that would unfold and never supported the US invasion of Iraq and the US never invaded from KSA either. A few months later the US were kicked out from KSA.

You can fine numerous old articles from before the invasion in 2003 that confirms the official policy.




Rest I did not read of your post (no disrespect) but I noticed what you choose to highlight.

I don't know where this propaganda of KSA wanting the removal of Saddam Hussein in 2003 originates from. I think that people are confusing it with events in 1991 after the Iraqi/Saddam invasion of Kuwait.
 
My friend, this is blatant lie. KSA was never in support of the toppling of Saddam Hussein (a former ally) at all. In fact KSA openly warned about the tragedy that would unfold and never supported the US invasion of Iraq
very easily debunked

Yes, the U.S. military used Saudi air bases, particularly Prince Sultan Air Base, during the 2003 Iraq War, for air operations and as a staging ground for special forces, although the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia was eventually withdrawn


Almost 20 years ago, Saudi Arabia insisted it wanted no inclusion in America’s war on Iraq, but the military and logistical support it provided to occupational forces evidenced a betrayal of that promise.

Testimonial evidence in intervening years has shown Saudi assistance was instrumental to America’s policy of forcible regime change and crucial to dismantling Iraq -- leaving the country in the state of corruption and chaos that endures until the present day.

Collusion between the 2 countries in the months leading up to the invasion saw the Saudis allow America to double the number of US troops in the kingdom. They also permitted the US to station 350 aircraft, with access to 3 different air bases, from which the US launched attacks, intelligence and reconnaissance flights into Iraq. Elite troops were flown into bases in the NW (‘Ar’ar and Tabuk) enabling the US to launch ground attacks into Iraq from Saudi soil.

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but as usual this is all off topic as this thread is about Gaza and Israel genocide not you defending every Arab state for everything they ever did
 
The supply line from Iran to Lebanon ran through thousands of miles and in between lay the American forces and 'assets' all the way from Iraq to the border of Lebanon. And just think about how many Arab nations, including Saudi Arabia, took part in the toppling of Saddam in 2003!!!! I read somewhere that 1 out of 5 shipments from Iran to Lebanon was destroyed by Israel and its backers. But the stupid people didn't see that toppling Assad was set in motion after the Hezb-Israel 2006 and they instead focused on some Imam Mahdi or some Jihadis or on their sectarian blinders. All the while Israelis were LASER FOCUSED on ensuring a Trump victory because they know who'd deliver for them. But the good thing is that the Biden admin was so horrible on inflation, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Ukraine War that the Middle East played almost no role in Kamala's defeat--so no real blaming the Trump Selfies Imam except to mock them for their historic stupidity. Hahaha!
There are stupid people who cheered that Syria is liberated, but now its run by rag tag militia with members who are formerly declared Terrorists, all it takes for west to once again show them media reports to convince them that the bombing of Syrian cities are justified, remember Iraq was the country that used to fire SCUD missiles as Israel, and we know what happened to the country, first Desert Storm and then " Iraqi Freedom ". All of this while other GCC countries were building Gold plated palaces and traveling to USA/UK/EU to flirt with white skin chicks.
Democrats enabled this whole Genocide, if Biden would've grown a spine to stop Natanyahu 6 months after the war, by now the cease fire would've been implemented, Gaza reconstruction would already begun, and deal would've been made to remove Hamas from power, but Biden because of his religious ideologies and other compromises couldn't stand against the Israel, not only that but Democrat leaders have cracked down on few voices that were speaking against Israel onslaught like Rashida Talib, she was outsed by Democrats and I bet she learned her lesson the hard way, Democrats will support on other DEI issues but when it comes to killing Palestinians they will kick anyone out of House or senate.

A joke often said by Ray McGovern goes like this: 'President Nixon asked an Israeli leader as to why doesn't Israel become America's 51st State? The Israeli leader responded 'Why would we? Then we would have only 2 Senators!'. Hahahah!!!
The Situation is embarrassing, America is super power but
The supply line from Iran to Lebanon ran through thousands of miles and in between lay the American forces and 'assets' all the way from Iraq to the border of Lebanon. And just think about how many Arab nations, including Saudi Arabia, took part in the toppling of Saddam in 2003!!!! I read somewhere that 1 out of 5 shipments from Iran to Lebanon was destroyed by Israel and its backers. But the stupid people didn't see that toppling Assad was set in motion after the Hezb-Israel 2006 and they instead focused on some Imam Mahdi or some Jihadis or on their sectarian blinders. All the while Israelis were LASER FOCUSED on ensuring a Trump victory because they know who'd deliver for them. But the good thing is that the Biden admin was so horrible on inflation, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Ukraine War that the Middle East played almost no role in Kamala's defeat--so no real blaming the Trump Selfies Imam except to mock them for their historic stupidity. Hahaha!



A joke often said by Ray McGovern goes like this: 'President Nixon asked an Israeli leader as to why doesn't Israel become America's 51st State? The Israeli leader responded 'Why would we? Then we would have only 2 Senators!'. Hahahah!!!



Yes. But also the GCC Arabs tried and the failed in the past. And looking from the other side: Why would you destroy the lives of tens of millions for the lives of a few million Palestinians?? Also think about what the destruction of the GCC mean for countries like Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Philippines etc who heavily rely on the remittances from the GCC countries? Let's think through our decisions.



Just a couple of years ago, even 1-2 Palestinian dead would make global headlines. What's happening now is the literal proof of Stalin's famous quote: 'One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic'. So sad.
The supply line from Iran to Lebanon ran through thousands of miles and in between lay the American forces and 'assets' all the way from Iraq to the border of Lebanon. And just think about how many Arab nations, including Saudi Arabia, took part in the toppling of Saddam in 2003!!!! I read somewhere that 1 out of 5 shipments from Iran to Lebanon was destroyed by Israel and its backers. But the stupid people didn't see that toppling Assad was set in motion after the Hezb-Israel 2006 and they instead focused on some Imam Mahdi or some Jihadis or on their sectarian blinders. All the while Israelis were LASER FOCUSED on ensuring a Trump victory because they know who'd deliver for them. But the good thing is that the Biden admin was so horrible on inflation, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Ukraine War that the Middle East played almost no role in Kamala's defeat--so no real blaming the Trump Selfies Imam except to mock them for their historic stupidity. Hahaha!
There are stupid people who cheered that Syria is liberated, but now its run by rag tag militia with members who are formerly declared Terrorists, all it takes for west to once again show them media reports to convince them that the bombing of Syrian cities are justified, remember Iraq was the country that used to fire SCUD missiles as Israel, and we know what happened to the country, first Desert Storm and then " Iraqi Freedom ". All of this while other GCC countries were building Gold plated palaces and traveling to USA/UK/EU to flirt with white skin chicks.
Democrats enabled this whole Genocide, if Biden would've grown a spine to stop Natanyahu 6 months after the war, by now the cease fire would've been implemented, Gaza reconstruction would already begun, and deal would've been made to remove Hamas from power, but Biden because of his religious ideologies and other compromises couldn't stand against the Israel, not only that but Democrat leaders have cracked down on few voices that were speaking against Israel onslaught like Rashida Talib, she was outsed by Democrats and I bet she learned her lesson the hard way, Democrats will support on other DEI issues but when it comes to killing Palestinians they will kick anyone out of House or senate.

A joke often said by Ray McGovern goes like this: 'President Nixon asked an Israeli leader as to why doesn't Israel become America's 51st State? The Israeli leader responded 'Why would we? Then we would have only 2 Senators!'. Hahahah!!!
The Situation is embarrassing, America is super power but being dictated by a small nation in middle East, they are taking America for a ride while sucking its resources.. You may see some light in the end of the tunnel but to me America is long gone and there is no way America can be free from these leeches, they have complete hold of American Govt, media, Hollywood, Academia , Think Tanks... The only reason why Americans don't care about how much their country is compromised is because they are stuck in a cycle of 9 to 5 work and pay bills life, while slowly Israel is buying their senators, giving itself more AID, using America naval ships to Protect Israel, putting American lives at risk, using banned weapons, America tax payers are paying for illegal settlements, and no one can do anything including Democrats or republicans, I keep saying this Israel will use America for as long as they are not powerful enough, with more nukes, more land mass, bigger military, once the Greater Israel is established, they will then ocastrate massive divisions among the American society, because with Project Greater Israel completed they will be the super power not America.
 
Just a couple of years ago, even 1-2 Palestinian dead would make global headlines. What's happening now is the literal proof of Stalin's famous quote: 'One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic'. So sad.
This is exactly what is happening, 400 dead in 2 Air strikes and media is still question if that's ok, there is no example in human history where to save 50 +/- hostages any country was allowed to drop 2000lbs bombs on civilians killing 130+ children, we have hostage situations all the time but this is never about hostage, and Western media is fully complicit in this Genocide/Ethnic cleansing.
 
very easily debunked

Yes, the U.S. military used Saudi air bases, particularly Prince Sultan Air Base, during the 2003 Iraq War, for air operations and as a staging ground for special forces, although the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia was eventually withdrawn


Almost 20 years ago, Saudi Arabia insisted it wanted no inclusion in America’s war on Iraq, but the military and logistical support it provided to occupational forces evidenced a betrayal of that promise.

Testimonial evidence in intervening years has shown Saudi assistance was instrumental to America’s policy of forcible regime change and crucial to dismantling Iraq -- leaving the country in the state of corruption and chaos that endures until the present day.

Collusion between the 2 countries in the months leading up to the invasion saw the Saudis allow America to double the number of US troops in the kingdom. They also permitted the US to station 350 aircraft, with access to 3 different air bases, from which the US launched attacks, intelligence and reconnaissance flights into Iraq. Elite troops were flown into bases in the NW (‘Ar’ar and Tabuk) enabling the US to launch ground attacks into Iraq from Saudi soil.

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but as usual this is all off topic as this thread is about Gaza and Israel genocide not you defending every Arab state for everything they ever did
But that article from a dubious source is pure nonsense as no US troops invaded Iraq from Saudi Arabian soil. The US used US/NATO bases in Turkey and the entire region as well. KSA could not do much back then. Does not mean that they were in favour of the US invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein (a former ally that kept Iraq stable and kept Iraqi Sunni Arabs - closest community in Iraq to KSA - in fact extremely close - not that the Iraqi Shia Arabs are not extremely close people as well, in particular in neighbouring Southern Iraq in power) which from a geopolitical viewpoint never favoured KSA to being with. And the official statements long before the war began also confirms it. As did later ground realities in Iraq, something that KSA warned against and was fully right about.

As did the removal of US presence shortly afterwards as well.

Kuwait and Syria (Al-Assad regime) were pushing for the removal of Saddam Hussein much more not to forget IRAN who could not defeat Saddam/Iraq militarily but was extremely happy when he was removed.

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Saddam Hussein was the main enemy/rival of Iran and obviously Iranian interference in Iraq after 2003 points to the removal of Saddam being hugely in favour of Iran. This is undeniable and I don't think that anybody can deny this with a straight face.
 
Honestly the gloves are off, they have been off for some time now. Its just that the axis of resistance let Israel take the initiative while being cautionary in their responses and counter attacks. This concept of "strategic patience" needs to be thrown to where it belongs and that is the fucking dustbin!
It has been a catastrophic failure for Iran and its regional policy.

There is absolutely no deterring the savagery of the Israeli/US war-machine unless it responded to in equally ruthless and savage way.
Iran needs to go full nuclear, and the rest of the alliance needs to grasp the concept of "use it or lose it", when chosing the weapons and tactics they want to respond with.
 
But that article from a dubious source is pure nonsense as no US troops invaded Iraq from Saudi Arabian soil. The US used US/NATO bases in Turkey and the entire region as well. KSA could not do much back then. Does not mean that they were in favour of the US invading Iraq
did the US use Saudi territory as a base for operations and logistics during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, or not? it is not clear from your usual attempts to deflect and talk about other topics instead.
 
did the US use Saudi territory as a base for operations and logistics during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, or not? it is not clear from your usual attempts to deflect and talk about other topics instead.
You started the topic by replying to my post trying to prove something that is easily debunked. We have a former president of Iran openly admitting the ground reality (that Iran helped the US in toppling their enemy Saddam Hussein) and we also have the past 22 years of history on the ground and confirmation of who gained what from the US removal of Saddam Hussein.

As for the logistics I already wrote that KSA had little say in this given the power disparity with the US. But the idea that KSA supported the removal of Saddam Hussein is complete and utter nonsense and easily debunked as I did.

Being against this and at the same time being forced to/coerced is a different story. Later, not sure how, KSA somehow managed to throw the US out but they returned in Qatar, UAE and Kuwait (present since 1991) instead.

Unless you believe that KSA or any country for that matter could stop a mad dog like the US after 9/11, the invasion of Afghanistan that was hell-bent on invading/destroying Iraq to the point that they even soured relations with main European allies such as France, Germany and others.

Anyway you are right, we are off-topic, so I am ending it here.
 
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