Imran Khan Thinks it is Pakistan that is Making Afghanistan its Enemy and not Vice Versa

[Starlord]

You know what, I supported this cartoon when he become PM, and was kicked out... and I still don't like the Establishment role in Pakistan's politics, but this cartoon is now pissing me off... F this Stupid, and because of people/leaders like him we in Pakistan failed to counter terrorism, because nation remain divided over who is the enemy, It is as clear as day now that Afghans are the Enemies, and before someone jump and say Indians are using Afghans, yeah Hindu Indians telling Afghan Islamists to kill Pakistani Muslims and they are doing it, okay?!
I am done supporting this idiot...

 

[Lulldapull]

The reality is Pakistan is in bed with CIA and Saudia, they are supporting anti Taliban elements in Afghanistan including ISIS in order to force the taliban to submit. TTP is not anti Taliban so this is why Taliban is not fighting them. Why doesn't Pakistan do covert operations and finish off TTP, are we not capable but ttp and bla are?

Russia is also supporting Taliban against ISIS

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Taliban blames Pakistan of supporting IS

The conflict between the Taliban and the Pakistani military is intensifying. The Taliban has officially accused the Pakistani government of supporting ISIS

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Bilkul…….

Same issue in Sy-Raaq.

If these ‘bhattay k muzlim’ don’t pump this cheese, it’s just not goin pay da bills!

It’s sad that it’s come down to this.

 

[SteppeWolff]

If TTP and BLA can target our armed forces, assassinate people in Pakistan, why can't our capable military do covert operations and target ttp and bla forces in Afghanistan. Are we lacking the capabilities but ttp and bla are so powerful that they can do it.

We were doing it in the past when we still were a bit more competent. The hits inside India and intel and military networks inside Afghanistan. All gone now; to the point those same assets are being killed inside Pak by the Indian-TTP nexus.

 

[PakAl]

You know what, I supported this cartoon when he become PM, and was kicked out... and I still don't like the Establishment role in Pakistan's politics, but this cartoon is now pissing me off... F this Stupid, and because of people/leaders like him we in Pakistan failed to counter terrorism, because nation remain divided over who is the enemy, It is as clear as day now that Afghans are the Enemies, and before someone jump and say Indians are using Afghans, yeah Hindu Indians telling Afghan Islamists to kill Pakistani Muslims and they are doing it, okay?!
I am done supporting this idiot...

I always respect your posts brother but one question. Why is Pakistan condemning the assassination of Lashkar e Islami chief, doing dua for him etc when LEI fought with the ttp against our army. It doesn't make sense.

 

[SteppeWolff]

I always respect your posts brother but one question. Why is Pakistan condemning the assassination of Lashkar e Islami chief, doing dua for him etc when LEI fought with the ttp against our army. It doesn't make sense.

LEI not just fought against the Military but also with the local tribes of Kyhber and Bajaur until they were expelled and faced alot of heat from the Afridis.

 

[PakAl]

LEI not just fought against the Military but also with the local tribes of Kyhber and Bajaur until they were expelled and faced alot of heat from the Afridis.

2015 news.

Dozens killed as Pakistan army takes on Taliban

At least 87 people killed in clashes between army and Pakistani Taliban in northwestern Khyber area, military says.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Starlord]

I always respect your posts brother but one question. Why is Pakistan condemning the assassination of Lashkar e Islami chief, doing dua for him etc when LEI fought with the ttp against our army. It doesn't make sense.

I don't who is condemning or what LEI chief, haven't catch up with the news.

 

[SteppeWolff]

2015 news.

Dozens killed as Pakistan army takes on Taliban

At least 87 people killed in clashes between army and Pakistani Taliban in northwestern Khyber area, military says.

www.aljazeera.com

LEI used to be the hardcore deobandis resisting the moderate Naqshbandi group of Khyber ( who were being hosted by Afridi clans ). LEI changed after getting training from TTP and under Mangal Bagh fought Military and the tribals. Same Mangal Bagh who used to be a conductor in the Peshawar Bus Stand.

And now we are getting condemnations when the founder of LEI got whacked. Its so confusing? Like what even is our narrative? Who do we support and who we are against?

And thanks for the article.

 

[OakTree23]

We were doing it in the past when we still were a bit more competent. The hits inside India and intel and military networks inside Afghanistan. All gone now; to the point those same assets are being killed inside Pak by the Indian-TTP nexus.

I can tell you exactly what I think is going on, the Indians, cowardly as always but quite sneaky and clever most likely went to the UAE, Saudis, and the U.S. and told them to rein in Pakistan if these countries want Indian business and to confront China. This is exactly why the “ceasefire” was signed secretly in UAE by the former Qadiani chief, these dajjal army is taking the anger out on its population because they’ve been called out for being cowards and highly incompetent. It’s like someone getting their behind kicked out out of the home but when they come home, they’ll beat up the women and kids to feel manly again!

 

[PakAl]

LEI used to be the hardcore deobandis resisting the moderate Naqshbandi group of Khyber ( who were being hosted by Afridi clans ). LEI changed after getting training from TTP and under Mangal Bagh fought Military and the tribals. Same Mangal Bagh who used to be a conductor in the Peshawar Bus Stand.

And now we are getting condemnations when the founder of LEI got whacked. Its so confusing? Like what even is our narrative? Who do we support and who we are against?

Exactly brother. We had 10,000s of tribal lashkar as allies, we had anti ttp militias as allies but we betrayed them afterwards, when we again gave space to these terrorist organisations to operate. We should have finished them off, gave power to anti ttp militias, today if ttp or anyone else threatened us we would of had 10,000s of militias ready to take them on. Our narrative changes with every new government and COAS, who will trust us. We did the same to the Taliban, under usa pressure we allowed drone attacks, kidnapped their people and handed them over to the Usa, allowed blackwater to operate from Pakistan, gave Nato supplies through our territory. All this has destroyed our narrative and made Pakistan in to Usa agent state.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were false flag operations by khakis to get sympathy and support from the Trump regime.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Exactly brother. We had 10,000s of tribal lashkar as allies, we had anti ttp militias as allies but we betrayed them afterwards, when we again gave space to these terrorist organisations to operate. We should have finished them off, gave power to anti ttp militias, today if ttp or anyone else threatened us we would of had 10,000s of militias ready to take them on. Our narrative changes with every new government and COAS, who will trust us. We did the same to the Taliban, under usa pressure we allowed drone attacks, kidnapped their people and handed them over to the Usa, allowed blackwater to operate from Pakistan, gave Nato supplies through our territory. All this has destroyed our narrative and made Pakistan in to Usa agent state.

What BS, Afghans have been attacking Pakistan since 1947. Any semblance of peace is always on their terms.

Zarb e Azb was the first time Pakistan took a stand.

 

[newb3e]

Explain yourself without resorting to homosexual imagery.....if you try very very hard you might be able to do it....it is ramadan after all....cleanse your soul

kakul education! they love plastic queens and khusra bhuttos they learn it at their homo academy

 

[alphapak]

because of people/leaders like him we in Pakistan failed to counter terrorism,

IK is in prison what is stopping PJ Mafia from attacking Afghanistan?

It will be a golden opportunity for the Indians to supply weapons to
Taliban and this time PJ Mafia will surrender KPK.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Exactly brother. We had 10,000s of tribal lashkar as allies, we had anti ttp militias as allies but we betrayed them afterwards, when we again gave space to these terrorist organisations to operate. We should have finished them off, gave power to anti ttp militias, today if ttp or anyone else threatened us we would of had 10,000s of militias ready to take them on. Our narrative changes with every new government and COAS, who will trust us. We did the same to the Taliban, under usa pressure we allowed drone attacks, kidnapped their people and handed them over to the Usa, allowed blackwater to operate from Pakistan, gave Nato supplies through our territory. All this has destroyed our narrative and made Pakistan in to Usa agent state.

Excellent post.

I remember reading @Oscar bro's post where he mentioned about how Rehman Malik ( the now dead and former interior minister ) basically gave Blackwater PMC's the clean chit to operate death squads inside Pakistan.

Coming back to LEI, who's founder's death we are condemning now, tribals of FATA fought Lashkar e Islam and so did the Armed Forces. They were allies of TTP and did suicide bombings all over KPK. What message does it give to all those Afridi clans of Khyber who fought those high trained terrorists?

Same with our Afghan policy, we became allies of Afghans and played a double game on them and now hold no cards when they consider us their enemies for backstabbing them?

Establishment 4D chess has made our lands ( the western half of Pakistan ) a perpetual battleground. And intellectuals of this forum living overseas or in Punjab or Sindh talk big game while we handle all the brunt. Imran Khan is 100% right. We need to make Afghans our allies and need to make the western front cold and focus on India and Kashmir issue ( which we already have sold out ).