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What! Oh noes their markets are taking huge hits I guess the only thing to do is to negotiate with Orange man, eh?
Problem is, what's good to negotiate when he intentionally crashes the market like this?

Sure, you can get a deal, that's good maybe for 5 minutes, then he changes his mind, then you got to do it all over, no one is going to negotiate in term like this plus, you can have 150 countries started negotiation with him all you want, as long as the big 4 don't do it, we are going to take the shit anyway, we have 70% of our trade deficit, or in number term, about 700 billions out of 1.1 trillion deficit between Feb 24-Feb 25 come from Mexico, China, EU and Taiwan, if none of these 4 are in those 150 countries, we are still going to be shit
 
From the horse's mouth - it's a broad spectrum anti-biotic treatment:


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This current moment is a self inflicted ill planned roll out of tariffs, which is driving down investor confidence and driving out money from the market (Buffet has been liquidating for a while), pushing many indices down. We could have rolled out tariffs in a 6 month process, through congress, targeted to properly compete against China, the main target. But the way it’s being done now just looks illogical.

Buffet was at $162 billion in cash about a year ago, and over $300 billion a few months ago. It’s not just the tariffs, as a conversation investors he doesn’t seem to want to invest in the new tech companies. He’s been watching the trend, and probably anticipated Trump’s win by the middle of last year if not sooner.

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Let me be the Devil's Advocate here. Adam Smith talked about the wealth of the nations, not paper money of the nations. Now, wealth means technology, manufacturing know-how and facilities, production, natural resources (water, land, minerals etc.), educated folks etc. The USA is taking the correct course corrections while she has got still some time left before it's too late. It'll be painful but it's worth enduring it.....
 
As a veteran of 3+decades in the semiconductor industry I think the Commerce Secretary makes quite a sense:

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Problem is, what's good to negotiate when he intentionally crashes the market like this?

Sure, you can get a deal, that's good maybe for 5 minutes, then he changes his mind, then you got to do it all over, no one is going to negotiate in term like this plus, you can have 150 countries started negotiation with him all you want, as long as the big 4 don't do it, we are going to take the shit anyway, we have 70% of our trade deficit, or in number term, about 700 billions out of 1.1 trillion deficit between Feb 24-Feb 25 come from Mexico, China, EU and Taiwan, if none of these 4 are in those 150 countries, we are still going to be shit
Apparently, the word in the MAGA crowd is this is a ploy to force China and Japan to dump US debt.

I am at loss of explanation. When stocks are getting butchered why will anyone.... SELL BONDS??????

@Mista Any clue?
 
Apparently, the word in the MAGA crowd is this is a ploy to force China and Japan to dump US debt.

I am at loss of explanation. When stocks are getting butchered why will anyone.... SELL BONDS??????

@Mista Any clue?
Are you really expecting a coherent reaction from the MAGA crowd.
 
What! Oh noes their markets are taking huge hits I guess the only thing to do is to negotiate with Orange man, eh?
Oh no. The S&P 500 is taking huge hit. Only thing to do is to dump the Orange man, eh ?
 
This is why China is right to control the stock market. If the traders ever try to crash the stock market in China, the CCP sends the gestapo after them and lock them up behind bars. In China, the CCP, not the traders, have power. Sometimes, authoritarianism works.
This is why no one believes in the Chinese stock market.
 
This is why China is right to control the stock market. If the traders ever try to crash the stock market in China, the CCP sends the gestapo after them and lock them up behind bars. In China, the CCP, not the traders, have power. Sometimes, authoritarianism works.
Chinese stocks crashed also
 
No he is killing stock market so that elites are forced to park their wealth back into fed. and that could force US fed governor to lower the interest rate.

Nice plan.
 

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