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Good point, but rules are rules.

Rules are indeed rules and the rules in place require the government to prove its case in court with evidence.

I'm not a 100% on the law in the US but many countries have a zero tolerance policy toward foreign nationals participating in political events.

US has freedom of speech and political criticism is protected as free speech as long as it doesn't incite violence.

Then when they start burning their flag

Protected under free speech in the US. The First Amendment says nothing that this right is restricted to US citizens only.

, vandalizing campuses

The government needs to prove that the specific individual engaged in vandalism.

, holding up inflammatory 🪧 🪧 s etc,

Inflammatory is a subjective assessment. It is up to courts, not the government, to decide what is acceptable and what is disallowed.

and on the rare instance, roughing up US citizens (jews) counter protesting...

In every documented case, the altercations were started by pro-Israel agitators. Once again, these things needs to be proven in court.

some are, unsurprisingly, being thrown the book at them and deported.

The 'book' requires the government to prove its case in court, with evidence.

Become a citizen and write to your reps

Free speech rights are not restricted to citizens.
 
Young people, passions running high, a much polarizazed crowd... charged atmosphere.

Best avoid getting caught ap in it. Especially bad of you're a foreign national, but I'd advice as kuch even to citizens proper... you not gonna get anything of substance done there but may well find yourself in a hairy situation.

But people gonna people... oh well.

Such a xhitshow, this whole thing.


Disagree here, the urge to protest is very natural

After all ..we saw uncle and auntie types get worked up over the California caste discrimination laws didn't we? Not comparable to what we see in gaza but people took to the streets

The difference here these are elite kids...they could influence future
 
Disagree here, the urge to protest is very natural

After all ..we saw uncle and auntie types get worked up over the California caste discrimination laws didn't we? Not comparable to what we see in gaza but people took to the streets

The difference here these are elite kids...they could influence future
I'm not sure about the caste thing there but I imagine it was nowhere near the intense passion evoking event this Israel Gaza thing is.

Influence the future is all well and good, but be doing it in apni countries, right ?

I can't imagine Pakistan, China, India etc allowing that kinda thing in our mulks.

Dah for thee but nyet for me waali baat, @r3alist bhai.
 
I'm not sure about the caste thing there but I imagine it was nowhere near the intense passion evoking event this Israel Gaza thing is.

Influence the future is all well and good, but be doing it in apni countries, right ?

I can't imagine Pakistan, China, India etc allowing that kinda thing in our mulks.

Dah for thee but nyet for me waali baat, @r3alist bhai.


Yea so his visa situation left him less protected....that is unavoidable
 
Yea so his visa situation left him less protected....that is unavoidable
We must teach ourselves and our kids to be dispassionate as we navigate through life.

Or, do it proper, run for elections and get zhit done

Or, join the military and overthrow the gubment...

These kids spoiling their futures, spl foreign ones, spl some from our neck where many times families make big sacrifices to send em over to get an education, a good degree and a job...

Risk/reward pe bhi nazar rakhein zara, right ?

I'd say the same to kids anywhere.
 
We must teach ourselves and our kids to be dispassionate as we navigate through life.

Or, do it proper, run for elections and get zhit done

Or, join the military and overthrow the gubment...

These kids spoiling their futures, spl foreign ones, spl some from our neck where many times families make big sacrifices to send em over to get an education, a good degree and a job...

Risk/reward pe bhi nazar rakhein zara, right ?

I'd say the same to kids anywhere.
But life is passion

No big change happens without passion, sacrifice

Whatever the cause

Who knows, generations down the line...you might get caught lacking, too risk averse and meek
 

Feds revoke visas of students at BU, Harvard, Tufts, Berklee, UMass and more​


A number of international students at private universities across Greater Boston and in the University of Massachusetts system have had their visas revoked in recent days.

Tufts University, Harvard University, UMass, Boston University, Emerson College, Northeastern University and Berklee College of Music all say that they have discovered student visas were cancelled in the last few days.

It is not immediately clear why the visas were terminated. Some schools said the federal government had not notified them of their students’ change of status, but rather learned about it when reviewing records.

University leadership now must piece together the full picture of what’s going on, said Rob McCarron, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in Massachusetts.

“These decisions are happening in a vacuum, without communication to the school or the student, and [university leaders] are trying to work backward to figure out why,” he said.

McCarron said the confusion is intensifying the sense of alarm some students are already feeling on campuses.

“It has created an environment of fear for the students who are here, not knowing if they will randomly have their visas terminated," he said.

At Harvard University, staff learned that the federal government revoked the visas of three students and two recent graduates during a “routine records review,” according to a notice from the school’s international office on Sunday.

“We are not aware of the details of the revocations or the reasons for them, but we understand that comparable numbers of students and scholars in institutions across the country have experienced similar status changes in roughly the same timeframe,” wrote the Harvard International Office.

Harvard did not provide the names of the impacted students, citing privacy concerns, but said in the statement that staff had referred students to legal services.

Several Northeastern students and recent graduates had their visas revoked in the last week, according to a post on Northeastern’s website.

“As of now, we have no evidence that a Northeastern student or recent graduate has had their status revoked due to political advocacy or speech,” the post read.

Fifteen students across the five UMass campuses have had their visas terminated. These include six at UMass Amherst, seven students or graduates of UMass Boston, one student set to graduate this spring at UMass Dartmouth and one at UMass Lowell.

A spokesperson for the university said in a statement that federal officials did not notify the university. Impacted students were identified when university staff “proactively” reviewed immigration databases.

UMass President Marty Meehan called the recent wave of visa revocations “extremely troubling and upsetting.”

“Our international students, faculty and staff are valued members of our university, and these unprecedented actions by the federal government threaten all international students’ ability to lawfully study and work in this country,” he said in a statement.

A Boston University spokesperson confirmed that a small number of the school’s students learned their visas were terminated. (Editor's note: Boston University owns WBUR's broadcast license. WBUR is editorially independent.)

In a statement on the school’s website, the International Students and Scholars Office said they have observed a “concerning new pattern” of terminating foreign student’s records without notice.

Typically, the U.S. Department of State notifies the student when their visa has been revoked, said the ISSO statement. But over the last few days, federal officials have begun to terminate student records without notice. Now, ISSO staff are proactively checking the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), a database used by the Department of Homeland Security to track information about international students on visas.

Most international students are on F-1 visas. If their visas are terminated, immigration officials can verify the student has left the country, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Students whose visas have been revoked due to a violation do not have a grace period.

Last Friday, the American Council on Education (ACE) sent a letter to the Department of State and the Department of Homeland Security seeking more information. All Massachusetts schools with known visa terminations are members of the council.

The letter said that international students were notified that their visas had been revoked and they needed to leave the country. The messages included no additional details about how to appeal or verify these visa terminations.

The Department of State did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Over the last several months the federal government has increasingly scrutinized the campus activity and political views of international students. Last month, Secretary of State Marco Rubio estimated that he’s signed at least 300 letters revoking the visas of international students and other foreign nationals.

Last month, immigration officials detained a number of international students with apparent ties to protesting the war in Gaza, including recent Columbia graduate Mahmoud Khalil and Tufts doctoral student Rümeysa Öztürk.

What’s different with the latest round of revoked visas, some schools say, is that the students do not have a history of participating in political activity on campus.

Miki Matrician, the chair of the New England chapter of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, says some of the visa cancellations she’s consulted on appear to be related to previous arrest records, even minor ones.

“We’ve been having consultations with people who had charges that were dismissed years ago and their history has been disclosed,” explained Matrician. “They were vetted and now their SEVIS records are being terminated.”

So far, the students Matrician has been consulting with have a minor arrest on their record and have not been detained. She says students can try to challenge a visa revocation by either suing for a temporary restraining order against the federal government or seeking a reinstatement of their student visa records. Though several students have opted to bypass those options and plan to leave the country.

“I’m really just concerned in general that the administration is targeting the wrong people,” said Matrician. “The fact that these people are being picked up or their [student visa] records are being terminated. Everybody is basically panicking and fearful of what may be coming.”

Ted Mitchell, the president of the American Council on Education, wrote in the letter to the federal government that the abrupt revocation of visas impedes the ability of schools to advise their students.

“It is important institutions are in a position to reassure international students so they can continue to make exceptional contributions to their campuses, communities, and the nation,” he wrote.

If the federal government continues to target international students, the impact on campuses nationally — and close to home — could be extensive.

International students contributed nearly $44 billion to the economy in the 2023 - 2024 school year, according to the Association of International Educators. The U.S. hosts more than 1 million international students at colleges and universities across the country, according to data from Open Doors. Roughly 80,000 international students attend school in Massachusetts.

In a statement, Gov. Maura Healey said on Monday that international students are indispensable members of Massachusetts’ communities and essential to the state’s economy.

“It is absolutely unacceptable that students in Massachusetts have had their visas revoked with no notice,” Healey said. “The Trump Administration needs to immediately provide information about why this happened, and what they are doing to protect people's rights and due process.”

Healey stressed that the state would do everything to make sure international students feel welcome and safe in Massachusetts.

Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
 
This was immediately after the SCOTUS said "you don't have jurisdiction".

 
But life is passion

No big change happens without passion, sacrifice

Whatever the cause

Who knows, generations down the line...you might get caught lacking, too risk averse and meek
Good point about being too risk averse, seen plenty who saw perfectly great opportunities just gently float by (including me, gotta confess.. but no regrets)

but then, the world's a very ugly place, and that's the environment we all operate in.

Is it worth risking deportation and a bad red blot stamped on your passport for life ?

battlefield awareness, right ?

I guess some get a kick out of being a "martyr", or maybe some cant control themselves when passion overflows, or something..

not worth it, imo.. your friends may think you're a hero, you may even get a glowing article somewhere, maybe a news clip and interview if lucky.. a proper golden 5 minutes, right ?

Then what ?

IF you absolutely must, go join whatever damn faction you full sapport so damn much

If for nothing else, then only because all of your effort WILL end in failure, xhit aint gonna shift a nonameter.. at the very least, don't waste your effort.
 
Gents.......some here doubt me........but you know what, at the end of da day, its your own loss:

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@SaadH @Developereo @PakAl @PakFactor @hussain0216 @Hussain @Sharma Ji @vsdoc @GatlingGun @AjayGhatak @Dalit @Waz @Tremain @r3alist @Davey Crockett @AZ_HighCountry @Hamartia Antidote

Theys lookin at ways to rescind your citizenship......if yous undesirable no?
 
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Theys lookin at ways to rescind your citizenship......if yous undesirable no?
"Dummies will never get it"....

They have every right to keep certain people out. Are we also "dummies" for tossing out Afghans?

Or are you talking about some desi folk who are still trying to cheat the system? Like all them Indians sneaking in through the Mexican side?

Yep... those are "dummies" for sure.
 
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In other ... more important....news, something is wrong with the shoulder-pads in this girl's jacket.

She needs a better tailor.
 
In other ... more important....news, something is wrong with the shoulder-pads in this girl's jacket.

She needs a better tailor.
She spilled da beans bro.......Green card holders (if colludz) getting the book thrown at them daily!

Ab USC's key bhee baari aani hae, specially if yous from an 'undesirable' background......

Just watch........Trumps already hinted at loyalty tests.......And AI is being used to vet all visa applications now, which means all your electronic signatures from social media postings, preferences and reactions.
 
Gents.......some here doubt me........but you know what, at the end of da day, its your own loss:

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@SaadH @Developereo @PakAl @PakFactor @hussain0216 @Hussain @Sharma Ji @vsdoc @GatlingGun @AjayGhatak @Dalit @Waz @Tremain @r3alist @Davey Crockett @AZ_HighCountry @Hamartia Antidote

Theys lookin at ways to rescind your citizenship......if yous undesirable no?


The laws to rescind citizenship for certain crimes have been around long before Trump and they exist in many countries. The only thing they have to ensure is that the person is eligible for another citizenship, by birth or whatever. They cannot make a person stateless.
 
Green card holders (if colludz) getting the book thrown at them daily!....specially if yous from an 'undesirable' background......
Don't see anything wrong with that.

USA isn't running a Charles Dickens orphanage.

Just watch........Trumps already hinted at loyalty tests.......
I don't know if this guy is good for America or bad for America.

I do know he isn't boring. The last one was a turnip.

And AI is being used to vet all visa applications now, which means all your electronic signatures from social media postings, preferences and reactions.
I have no travel plans beyond Clifton Beach. And I don't barf all over Facebook and X.

I'm cool.
 

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