Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Yasser76]

Kashmir valley is completely inside India, pakistan has Gilgit, Baltistan and Jammu areas of erstwhile Jammu and Kahsmir princely Hindu Dogra state …

I just want some good old constant battle on LOC … big guns, drones, anti tank missiles

Mentality of someone who has never been in a proper fight in their lives.

 

[Yasser76]

In the context of Indo Pacific and QUAD, Pakistan is irrelevant.. Pakistan in its current state is terminally ill both politically or economically.. hence your argument doesn't fit well.. seems more like some dude in Rawalpindi wanted to divert some domestic hate towards him to somewhere else

Then you dont need to keep visiting a Pakistani forum on a daily basis right?

 

[mmonga]

Read the statement of Trf which was posted above

You think after decades of deception, alienation and persecution the angry and irrational local youth still have the patience to run an extensive background check to see whether these aren’t just more settlers in disguise?

I dont care what those terrorists have to say, I care about actions they take and their consequences.
Are you saying that the well planned attackers were not aware that the location where they attacked is primarily a tourist hotspot accessible only by foot / horseback and not a residential area. Are you being intentionally naive?

 

[Goenitz]

Non-state actors are things of the past. It is the luxury now the West and the US can afford.
COAS must be stupid or desperate to be behind this.
Iran was involved it has failed to sustain it. India is only successful in Pakistan and has failed in Canada and the US.

 

[mmonga]

Well you know dutt, so that counts as recognised
Is it factual? Says who.

Many died yet the focus is on finding an angle for the nobility of the prepertors , and a completely one sided media coverage.

Its worse than celebrating, it's an attempt to mainstream the bla narrative as respectable, clearly worked with you.

The facts were taken out of similar reports which came from local Pakistani media, not manufactured out of thin air.
Did Dutt claim that BLA was noble in killing people? That is just assuming what Indians would think and projecting your thoughts on Indians.

 

[Yasser76]

Looks like I was wrong. India had retaliated swiftly and decisively....

At least two dozen people have been killed after gunmen opened fire on a group of domestic tourists visiting a popular beauty spot in Indian-administered Kashmir, authorities have told the BBC.

The attack took place in Pahalgam, a picturesque town in the Himalayas often described as the "Switzerland of India".

The region's chief minister, Omar Abdullah, said the attack was "much larger than anything we've seen directed at civilians in recent years". Reports suggest that there are a large number of wounded, with some in critical condition.

India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi said the perpetrators would "be brought to justice".
"Our resolve to fight terrorism is unshakeable and it will get even stronger," Modi wrote in a statement on X.

Home Minister Amit Shah travelled to Srinagar, Kashmir's largest city, on Tuesday to hold an emergency security meeting.

The region's Lieutenant Governor, Manoj Sinha, said the army and police had been deployed to the scene.

No group has claimed responsibility for the attack. There has been a long-running insurgency in the Muslim-majority region since 1989, although violence has waned in recent years.

The attack took place in Baisaran, a mountain-top meadow three miles (5km) from Pahalgam.

Vehicles are unable to reach the area where the shooting occurred, Inspector General of Jammu and Kashmir Police Vidi Kumar Birdi told BBC Hindi.

A tourist from Gujarat, who was part of a group that was fired upon, said that chaos broke out after the sudden attack, and everybody started running, crying and shouting.

Video footage shared by Indian media outlets appears to show Indian troops running towards the scene of the attack, while in other footage victims can be heard saying that the gunmen had singled out non-Muslims.

Footage on social media, which has not been verified by the BBC, appears to show bodies lying on a meadow with people crying and pleading for help.

Police said multiple tourists had been taken to hospital with gunshot wounds. The area has been cordoned off and soldiers are stopping vehicles at checkpoints. A joint search operation by the Indian army and Jammu and Kashmir police is ongoing.

Several protests have been organised for Wednesday.

Image source,EPA
Image caption,
Security forces stand outside the government hospital in Anantnag, south of Srinagar, where victims are being treated
Since the 1990s, an armed separatist insurgency against Indian rule in the region has claimed tens of thousands of lives, including those of civilians and security forces.

The Himalayan region was divided following India's independence from Britain, partition and the creation of Pakistan in 1947.

The two nuclear-armed states both claim the region in its entirety and have fought two wars and a limited conflict over it in the decades since.

Some 500,000 Indian soldiers are permanently deployed in the territory.

While fighting has decreased since Modi revoked Kashmir's partial autonomy in 2019, there are still incidents of violence.

The last major attack on civilians occurred in June 2024 when nine people were killed and 33 injured after militants opened fire on a bus carrying Hindu pilgrims.

In 2019, a suicide bombing in Indian-administered Kashmir killed at least 46 soldiers and prompted Indian airstrikes on targets in Pakistan.

Pahalgam is a popular tourist destination, both domestically and internationally, and in recent years the government has attempted to encourage further tourism to the region.

Around 3.5 million tourists visited Kashmir in 2024, according to official figures.

At least five killed after gunmen open fire on tourists in Kashmir

The region's chief minister said the attack was "much larger than anything we've seen directed at civilians in recent years".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sharma Ji]

I dont care what those terrorists have to say, I care about actions they take and their consequences.
Are you saying that the well planned attackers were not aware that the location where they attacked is primarily a tourist hotspot accessible only by foot / horseback and not a residential area. Are you being intentionally naive?

Getting global eyes on the ball is one of their objectives, their primary one, even.

Killed an Israeli, great success !

Good for them India isn't like Israel in how it conducts itself and manages terrorist attacks.

 

[Meengla]

No one should be pleased when innocent civilians are killed anywhere.
You Tube's algorithm just directed me to a video where Arnab Goswami is foaming at the mouth. But even he is saying that the attack happened 'several hours from the LOC' and that the attackers came on foot, covering a good distance, meaning they had 'fair amount of local support'.

 

[arjunk]

I dont care what those terrorists have to say, I care about actions they take and their consequences.

These are contradictory statements. Until Indians pull their heads out of their arse and acknowledge the root cause of these attacks, they will never stop.

 

[max]

Who accepted responsibility?

 

[arjunk]

Who accepted responsibility?

according to Indian media, TRF. Reuters says its Kashmir resistance which if I recall correctly is just a media outlet.

 

[r3alist]

The facts were taken out of similar reports which came from local Pakistani media, not manufactured out of thin air.
Did Dutt claim that BLA was noble in killing people? That is just assuming what Indians would think and projecting your thoughts on Indians.

A minute ago you didn't know mojo, now you support their entire story and narrative, not seeing it yourself.


It's only worth replying to you as you my friend serve as a case study of projecting, not me.

 

[Sharma Ji]

As I mentioned elsewhere, this attack will only benefit Pakistani generals, and no one else.

Good point, they need a diversion, a distraction, however illusory.. just to take their own awam's heat off of them.

On Israel, I hold different views than you. I think what Israel is doing at present has no parallels in history other than what they (Jews) themselves suffered during WW2. Killing terrorists is one thing, killing an entire nation is another.

What different views then ?

I said it's good we're not like (((them))), I mean it, I dont like what they're doing in Gaza, quite sickening, but that is for another topic.

 

[max]

according to Indian media, TRF. Reuters says its Kashmir resistance which if I recall correctly is just a media outlet.

Hearing first time. What TRF means?

 

[Distant_Observer]

Goodluck Napak fauj… this maybe false flag but this time napak fauj is on its own… muneera must be pissing his pants like bewaja was trembling