Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[RescueRanger]

Mostly the media, the worst sansanikhez types been the loudest.

I agree with you, but you know the things that are being said are having repercussions for innocent Indian citizens who aren't Hindus... India needs to tone down the rhetoric or it will be consumed by communal violence.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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kya bc na Indian army ko nod milta hai na kisi aur ko. Its always some international pressure excuse.

 

[RescueRanger]

Do you think that this time they will use aircraft carriers and destroyers to target Gawadar ?

Gawadar port is co-operated by China... Good luck India!

 

[CombatCorner]

Killing civilian tourists will result to more than just chest thumping.

Are there some other kind of tourists as well....
You are already not playing cricket with us..
What more can you do except showboating and playing to home audience .

 

[Meengla]

If Pakistan initiates an offensive war against India, it will fall into a trap. Pakistan may be able to mount a defence if India attacks, but there is no way it can win an offensive war against India.

You are right. Pakistan won't launch a conventional attack. But gloves which have been put on by Pakistan since the Shimla Agreement are going to come off: No more the 'sanctity of the LOC', intense infiltration and sabotage in IOK and other parts of India, destruction of any infrastructure which would affect Pakistan's water flow and more.
You have no idea of the consequences for the peace in the region. Your stupid rulers think Pakistan can ignore threats from your senior govt officials like 'we will not allow even one drop of water going into Pakistan'.

 

[RescueRanger]

Are there some other kind of tourists as well....
You are already not playing cricket with us..
What more can you do except showboating and playing to home audience .

It is beyond logic that people infiltrated into a zone with 1 Million + Soldiers, countless barbed wire zones, check posts managed to round people up, make men drop their trousers to check for circumcisions, ask women to recite verses, shoot people, keep shooting for up to 40 minutes near to a Police HQ - and then exfil without any trace?

1. No CCTV
2. No Mobile Footage
3. No Evidence
4. No Forensic Evidence

Before blaming Pakistan, India and Indians should question their own vaunted security forces and intelligence agencies.

 

[Meengla]

You will not starve if you plan and start taking water management seriously and immediately.

That's like a town's utility company saying 'We are stopping your water supply. Put buckets on your roof to collect the rainwater'.
Just listen to yourselves!!

 

[Jungibaaz]

Military retaliation of epic proportions is coming & this one will be decisive & permanent. God's judgement will be dealt on the wicked & new era of peace & prosperity will be unleashed after dust is settled.

Not possible. We're your peers in terms of tech and capability, the more you'd like to escalate, the further up the ladder we'll follow. Eventually you'd need serious attrition to put a stop to our capacity, and soon thereafter comes the nuclear threshold.

I think your government has done itself a serious disservice with all the posturing and misleading the citizenry. Pre-2014 I heard lots of Modi related bravado from Indian nationalists, back when there was still a delusion abroad of Indian conventional superiority even in a limited conflict. All of that has come to nought in the last engagement.

But now that same government has built an image in all of your imaginations that Pakistan is not a peer adversary, and simply giving the order for your armed forces to let loose will flatten any capacity we have. This is beyond delusional, and believe me.... if I had to bet which nation actually has the stomach to fight, I'd bet on Pakistan.

We're nearly 20 years in to a war on terror that has taken more lives than all our conflicts with India combined, we have much less to lose than you do economically, and most importantly, our awam is not deluded; they know that war with India means means massive casualties, your people seem to think it'll be quick and painless to take on Pakistan, this stupidity I see from Indian nationalists and your media.

 

[RescueRanger]

Slightly off topic but Dr. Shahid Masood talks too much, his lengthy sermons are so boring. I feel sorry for his co-host, how she prevents falling asleep during his rants must be some superhuman power.

 

[Sharma Ji]

[repost] to help lift the lid from your head...

IOK has one of the worlds most militarised zones with a combined personnel count of over 1 Million+ troops.

The Indian Armed Forces in IOK include:
-Indian Army
-Navy
-Airforce
-Special Operations Division
-Central Armed Police Forces
-Border Security Force
-Central Reserve Police Force
-Sashastra Seema Bal
-ITBP
-The Jammu and Kashmir Police have their own special forces unit focued on anti-insurgency labelled the SOG (Special Operations Group).

Indian SF are deployed in the region including Indian Army Paratrooper SF, Indian Navy MARCOS and IAF Garud Commandos. The Indian Navy Special Forces have the unique role of securing the Wular Lake.

The region is a maze of Military and Police Checkposts:

The border with Pakistan is one of the most heavily polices, monitored and the Indian Government has expanded the fencing to such a level that they have erased hectares of farmland in the process:

The region is home to: Northern Command | Headquarters: Udhampur, Jammu & Kashmir. It has three subordinate units or Corps, such as:

- XIV Corps having headquarters at Leh
- XVI Corps having headquarters at Nagrota
- XV Corps having headquarters at Srinagar

Furthermore, seven divisions and one Brigade (10 artillery Brigades) function under the Northern command.

The IAF has a number of Squadrons in the region including:
Leh Squadron - based out of Leh Air Base & Troop Transport Mi17 V5
223 Squadron - AFS Srinagar

Please note the distances (as the crow files from Muzaffarabad to Pahalgam)

169Km - please pay close attention to the terrain.

Right in the heart of Pahalgam rests the camp for 116Bn of the Central Reserve Police Force

Are the Government of India honestly trying to claim that a handful of people in flipflops armed with small arms managed to traverse 169 kilometres deep into one of the most militarised zones in the world, across extremely difficult terrain, bypassing numerous check posts and carry out a terrorist attack right next to the base of the Central Reserve Police Force and escape without being detected?

Rather than point fingers at Pakistan, the Indian people should ask their ministers, their home department, the security forces and intelligence agencies, HOW? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? Are you so incompetent?

But we all know the truth don't we...

If they crossed over from Pak territory, then they must be highly trained (daura e khaas) guys, logistics full sapport by SSG

but could be drugged out of their mind highly indoctrinated locals in this case, meth and heroin make people zombies, and we have a big problem in Kashmir.

There's a lot of angles here that need to be investigated proper, don;t bother about the msm and noise on social media, meme wars and all this silliness.

They'll find safehouses and hiodeouts, there will be some shooting.. Kashmiri mujh vs Indian forces.

 

[r3alist]

Talking big then small then smaller

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[Ali_Baba]

india most likely will use su30mki with brahamos, and LR-ASM protected by long range meteore on Rafaels..

Lets see when they will launch their attack..


Do you think that this time they will use aircraft carriers and destroyers to target Gawadar ?

Aircraft carriers have returned to "port" for unspecified reasons ...

Brahmos by its nature is difficult to intercept, but then so is the CM-400AKG. It is question of what they hit, and how Pakistan retaliates. Pakistan does need to up the retaliation, it cant be a like for like, which has been Pakistan's policy to date. That policy has not created a deterrence.

Question is, if India tries to bomb Islamabad, will Pakistan hit New Delhi in return?

 

[RescueRanger]

If they crossed over from Pak territory, then they must be highly trained (daura e khaas)

If they managed to cross 169 KM deep into India and circumvent your defences, you should just disband your army, its clearly incompetent.

Covering 169KM on foot with weapons and tab bags, ascending peaks close to 3500Meters would take more than 4 days... Are you honestly suggesting that people were able to infiltrate and stay in the second most heavily militarised zone in the world for 4 days without being detected, carried out an attack and then melted away to safety?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

You surely dig yourself deeper into the farce! Let's say there is no specific international law that states that a 'country can't nuke another country', would that allow a country to nuke another country?? That's just a raw example of how YOU interpret law.
The IWT was signed after NINE years of intense negotiations which kept in mind the deep mutual distrust and animosity between India and Pakistan and is so strictly worded that not even 'revisions' are allowed unless both parties agree and if they don't agree that then there are levels of arbitration. And here you think that can be 'suspended'. You will surely lose during arbitration but, yes, you may not follow the verdict and who is there to enforce the verdict with the world becoming a jungle.

Just to remind.... The world is already jungle anyway. If you believe one country can denied and others to follow - that's something also very challenging.

Such organisations are mostly toothless, only effective against small countriies

But regarding this - we will see because what I can see - there is a loophole

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[Ali_Baba]

Talking big then small then smaller

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Watching this stuff on Indian media(and Indian media in general) will rot your brain for sure. It is a self-reinforcing echo chamber of the arrogant, self important illterate hate clowns that are self indulgent in their own self-perceived importance and totally devoid of context, facts or history.