Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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Given that Indians are full of hate and ready to start a war, they have suspend the IWT I think its a God gift chance for Pakistan to take out these Dams Indians have made on Jehlum River, if the war breaks out sooner or later International community will intervene to stop it but in the intensity of war we can take out the dams as they were illegally build anyway, I don't think Pakistan will get a better chance again. If India's threats over water are not responded with Military action they will make it a habit and slowly and gradually build more dams to stop or redirect more water.
 
Given that Indians are full of hate and ready to start a war, they have suspend the IWT I think its a God gift chance for Pakistan to take out these Dams Indians have made on Jehlum River, if the war breaks out sooner or later International community will intervene to stop it but in the intensity of war we can take out the dams as they were illegally build anyway, I don't think Pakistan will get a better chance again. If India's threats over water are not responded with Military action they will make it a habit and slowly and gradually build more dams to stop or redirect more water.

I was thinking this, why on earth are we awaiting their first strike against us? What is stopping us striking them premptively if we get intelligence that we are about to be attacked!?
 
I was thinking this, why on earth are we awaiting their first strike against us? What is stopping us striking them premptively if we get intelligence that we are about to be attacked!?
Well I would be against the preemptive strike cause it will put Pakistan on back foot, India will say look they first send Terrorists, and when we were about to attack Terrorists hideouts Pakistan Army hit us, we need to play safe like in 2019. But I would say this time because of whole IWT issues we need to take out these 2-3 Dams or damage them enough so it will take years to repair them, also this time I hope PAF will not stop their fighters from shooting down more than 2 fighters, if anything for a lock then shoot to kill, the more damage we will do or they will do the more time for the next conflict.
 
I was thinking this, why on earth are we awaiting their first strike against us? What is stopping us striking them premptively if we get intelligence that we are about to be attacked!?

Politics. Let India be the aggressor. Pakistan can respond and then decide what it wants to do next.

Attacking is a lot harder and India will pay a heavy heavy price interms of lost assets, that increases the barrier to entry for war for India. Let them sweat it out ?
 
Politics. Let India be the aggressor. Pakistan can respond and then decide what it wants to do next.

Attacking is a lot harder and India will pay a heavy heavy price interms of lost assets, that increases the barrier to entry for war for India. Let them sweat it out ?

They will strike in a cowardly fashion, they learnt their lesson after 2019. I suspect missile strikes on innocent houses in Kashmir then they will celebrate they took out terrorists.
If (sorry, when) we strike back they may be suspecting we will again attack their targets in Kashmir and they will be ready and waiting foir us.

Hopefully we surprise them again
 
I sense 1965 energy from this, "I thought we can invade and the conflict will be limited to LoC, why are they attacking Lahore?".

I don't know man, maybe we would think it's open season and Turbela is a fair target. Dam busting is not a really smart play.

You are right, it is not smart, but if Pakistan is threatened with no water, what choice do we have?

Maybe (unlike 1965) it was not smart to threaten to make us dry
 
I sense 1965 energy from this, "I thought we can invade and the conflict will be limited to LoC, why are they attacking Lahore?".

I don't know man, maybe we would think it's open season and Turbela is a fair target. Dam busting is not a really smart play.
Pakistan is not building Dams on Indian River system, nor we are threatening to stop water or jumping like Hanuman's over killing Pakistani's with Flood or turning Pakistan into a desert, so yes dams on Pakistani river at legitimate targets, if you don't want such extreme measures than fight army to army not like Pu$$ies, and from the looks of it Indian govt had made this plan for sometime because within few minutes they blame Pakistan for the attack, with no evidence and within 48 hours they suspend the treaty, normally countries increase the escalation ladder slowly/gradually as more evidence mount up, so yeah only Brain dead bharti's believe that Pakistan has anything to do with this attack.
 
You are right, it is not smart, but if Pakistan is threatened with no water, what choice do we have?

Maybe (unlike 1965) it was not smart to threaten to make us dry
We are out of options as well. Modi did make that threat before. To quote him " water and blood should not flow together".
But the attacks in Kashmir reduced to almost none and the sense of normalcy was returning. The locals were making good money as well. But all that went to shit and you're left with an even more hostile state. You should reign in on the support network. Hopefully there is no war.
 
We are out of options as well. Modi did make that threat before. To quote him " water and blood should not flow together".
But the attacks in Kashmir reduced to almost none and the sense of normalcy was returning. The locals were making good money as well. But all that went to shit and you're left with an even more hostile state. You should reign in on the support network. Hopefully there is no war.

These things also happened in the past and of course no proof is being provided.

Point is, as you mentioned, playing with dams is not smart, but Pakistan did not bring water into the equation first, India did, lets remember that
 
Politics. Let India be the aggressor. Pakistan can respond and then decide what it wants to do next.

Attacking is a lot harder and India will pay a heavy heavy price interms of lost assets, that increases the barrier to entry for war for India. Let them sweat it out ?

This is a sane strategy.
 
Again you have the 65 argument. You threaten dams in India you get that in return.
We started climbing the escalation ladder since both of us had nukes. We had 1999, which was worse than now, we almost had a nuke exchange. Then in 08 and the whole isolating Pakistan stuff went on, since 2014 the government has increased the pressure exponentially. We can't go on like this, IWT is the best you can hope for in these tough situations. Something short of a full blown war. Air raids are out of options. We probably going to concentrate our energy on diverting rivers or raising dam headworks, release silts and refuse to share hydrological data basically making life hell for you. Maybe this will force you to build your own dams.

As for the attack, we still have real Pakistanis crossing loc through various means with weapons. They occassionally get shot down, it's heavily guarded region and you're not fooling anyone when you say "you got nothing to do with these people" who come from your side of the LOC.

You lot always contradict yourself, has Modi not been claiming Kashmir is "normal" now for last 5 years, and Indian army claiming infiktration has stopped, and now the tune changes again?

If you threaten the water of a country, gloves are off and everything is fair game, we can agree on that right?
 
We can't go on like this, IWT is the best you can hope for in these tough situations. Something short of a full blown war. Air raids are out of options. We probably going to concentrate our energy on diverting rivers or raising dam headworks, release silts and refuse to share hydrological data basically making life hell for you. Maybe this will force you to build your own dams.

All are act of war

And Pakistan would have every right to bomb them which it would obviously do

Anyways most experts believe that this IWT thing is a new lollypop by modi for Indian janta. modi knows this art of giving new lollypops to his own people
 

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