Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Meengla said:
He is not claiming the attack in Pulwarna 2019 on Indian soldiers but using 'Pulwarna' as a generic reference to not only that attack but also the subsequent events such as Indian strike in Balakot and Pakistan then shooting down Abhinandan fighter jet. He is saying 'after Pulwarna we went into India to beat them up'. Maybe slight wrong choice of words for brevity's sake.
Anyway, no one cares in today's world even if he would directly admit all the attacks in India. The world has too many other worries. Pakistan and India and their respective narratives are way down the priority lists unless a major war starts.
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India and Pakistan Have Completely OPPOSITE
Narratives and Perspectives
 
Meengla said:
Considering the very low standard of Indian channels, Karan Thapar is one of the best. Of course he is going to emphasize Indian POV but he is an angel compared with most others. And Moeed Yousuf is a gem.
Thanks for the video.
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Karan is in fairness a gent and his last words do him credit

His interview style is to probe and interrupt as if it were a barrister cross examination, in the exchange moeed mentioned the absolutely key points that I myself have been emphasising
 
Be dazzled said:
Guys. This is unconfirmed so keep salt with you but multiple sources are claiming that j10c had a close call with raffles as they achieved lock on one of the four. 2 vs 4 ship formations.
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:LOL:⁣I was expecting such news from Pakistan based on the historical claims base... PAF is good on that (there is always some claims because pakistani are very sensitive with PAF stories)

it has just started – waiting for a few more claims.
 
vasanthm said:
I agree, the best chance for a peaceful settlement was likely during the Congress years or even Vajpayee’s tenure, when there was genuine effort from the Indian side to move forward. Unfortunately, certain groups in Pakistan seemed to believe they could extract more by holding out for an 'all or nothing' outcome, which ultimately helped neither side. Today, with India’s growing economic weight and shifting global dynamics, there’s understandably less urgency to revisit old proposals. Diplomacy is never off the table, but it requires sincerity, mutual respect, and realistic expectations and at the moment, that seems distant.
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It was the political chaos in Pakistan starting 2007 with several major events like Lal Masjid operation, the Judges Movement, Benazir's Assassination, sudden and rapid rise of terrorism in Pakistan. All those combined to led to Musharraf's removal from power in 2008 and that killed the Musharraf-Manmohan rapprochement.
It was not lack of sincerity on Pakistan's side but very unfortunate series of events. But that's the story behind Pakistan's problems: Lack of continuity of policies and that's why I believe Pakistan needs whatever form of govt for the next 15-20 years to keep focus, devise policies and implement them; that discussion is beyond the scope of this thread.
 
vasanthm said:
I agree, the best chance for a peaceful settlement was likely during the Congress years or even Vajpayee’s tenure, when there was genuine effort from the Indian side to move forward. Unfortunately, certain groups in Pakistan seemed to believe they could extract more by holding out for an 'all or nothing' outcome, which ultimately helped neither side. Today, with India’s growing economic weight and shifting global dynamics, there’s understandably less urgency to revisit old proposals. Diplomacy is never off the table, but it requires sincerity, mutual respect, and realistic expectations and at the moment, that seems distant. Perhaps only after both countries face enough setbacks will there be the political will to genuinely resolve this, hopefully without clinging to maximalist positions.
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As I have said, we are ready to listen but you must contact.Your government is talking to everyone except pakistan. May be we can help each other this time. We sincerely want all issues to be resolved so that we both can prosper. Your government must talk and respect will be given from our side. Nobody wants war. There are many things similar between these two nations but not all. Let’s enjoy biryani and talk in a good atmosphere. I understand that your civilians died during attack but you must also look at our internal situation. Proxy war should stop from both sides. Meet us. Make a framework, implement it. Visit each other and build trust.
 
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Abid123 said:
Hahahah. Indians using footage from Gaza.
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This is all they can do, and this is why I warned against relying on SM for your info.

These nausarbaaz, ELINT lol, call centre mey behat kar 25 rupees ka anda pav Kha key ider ponch jatey hai gas chorney.


ElINT 😂, dau takay key James bond, tum logon se transponder to spoof hota nahi hai - ELINT or signatures collect karney key davay dey rahey ho forums par.

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US position aligning with China and Turkey......

Burnol needed.
 
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