Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[chinesedragon911]

Pakistan can opt MIRV. End this once and for all

 

[PakFactor]

Because you are looking at it from one dimension and that too opaquely.

There are SEVERAL dimensions to this conflict happening on a miliatary, resource, economic, diplomatic level that go well beyond the last 15 days and go well years into the future based on Pakistan's economic, diplomatic, social, internal security and military aspects.

Please dont forget that 70% of the Balochi population is now hostile to any state employee or asset along with any Punjabi. KP is now getting a hostile population approaching double digits. Your political landscape is a banana joke and people do not have faith in the current leadership or any leadership for that matter.

That does not mean a large percentage of the Punjab Sindh belt and a large percentage of KP wont stand behind their fighting men - but this is the WORST time for Pakistan to face this crisis and PRECISECLY why India chose this moment - except that it was expecting a cake walk and instead has badly cut hand and leg.

That is a valid assessment. Our internal politics is a bottleneck at this point.

 

[Baadil]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC/PAC_JF-17_Thunder

In 2010, the PAF had reportedly selected ATE Aerospace Group to integrate French-built avionics and weapons systems over rival bids from Astrac, Finmeccanica and a Thales-Sagem joint venture. Fifty JF-17s were to be upgraded and an optional fifty from 2013 onwards, at a cost of up to US$1.36 billion. The RC-400 radar, MICA AAMs, and several air-to-surface weapons are believed to be in the contract. The PAF also held talks with South Africa for the supply of Denel A-darter AAMs.

If you read the beginning of the next paragraph it mentions the reported deal was reportedly suspended

 

[Venom]

Three in IoK

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One in Punjab


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Four confirmed

Bhai can you provide a link that works. The snap can be fake.

 

[White Privilege]

The actual question you should all ask is - where is the famed S-400 which was supposed to make Pakistani jets unable to fly in their own airspace?

And on that note - did nothing approach the engagement envelope of the HQ-9P?

I believe Indian jets were clearly instructed to not cross into Pakistan to avoid a repeat of Abhinondon. They deployed SOWs and hurried back and that is why they were shot down in their own airspace. Also the engagement envelope of SAMs is limited in reality, and neither side would want to risk them by placing them that close to the border.

 

[Oscar]

@Oscar What would the best case scenario be for Pakistan realistically? Alot of pessimism going around

World powers intervene behind the scene to let India know its annulment of the IWT cannot stand - and it must negotiate a "new" treaty. That is either done via US, UK or other western state perhaps on GCC grounds.

Pakistan in turn must publicly extradite whatever list India provides over - winds down Kashmir support completely.

LOC continues as it is but India gets to plan its next move after a few years.

 

[Areesh]

Bhai can you provide a link that works. The snap can be fake.

It is real

Tweet has been deleted by the Hindu now

 

[Psyko70]

Pakistan can opt MIRV. End this once and for all

relax dude. Indians can be beaten conventionally.

 

[codeforfood]

They dont have anything like that yet. All dams are mini run of river types.

On Chenab they could only stop water for 12-16 hours few days ago.

Pakistan doesnt need to worry for now.

striking any major infrastructure would not be a wise thing as it would invite similar outcome on our side. As evident we were not able to stop their missile strikes.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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[wanglaokan]

So it's begin , If it's drag for weeks , Pakistan will be in disadvantageous position due the lake of strategic depth and resources...

Pakistan should retaliate hard and fast and let's others to scale things down ...

the worst case scenario is that India turn these kind of attack to a normal routine...

if India further escalate the war, PLA army shall deploy along the border and 055 destroyer and submarine will sail along the coast line of Pakistan to deter any further threat from India. Now IAF is overwhelmed, they had lost the air superiority.
If the United States takes side with India, China will stand strongly with Pakistan.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Commercial air traffic exclusion zone I posted earlier still seems to be holding. Definitely obvious on the Indian side of the border:

 

[Oscar]

I believe Indian jets were clearly instructed to not cross into Pakistan to avoid a repeat of Abhinondon. They deployed SOWs and hurried back and that is why they were shot down in their own airspace. Also the engagement envelope of SAMs is limited in reality, and neither side would want to risk them by placing them that close to the border.

Well said - and which is why many of those systems got through despite people not understanding these limitations and complaining.

Moreover, Pakistan's EW capacity has multiplied(so has India's but Pakistan has had great help) which is letting PAF operate with impunity for now while India's ground based EW hasnt been fully rolled out yet.

 

[RabzonKhan]

It’s disheartening to see that Pakistani and Indian leadership remain trapped in outdated hostility, perpetuating Hindu-Muslim hatred instead of progress. History has shown that even the fiercest rivals can move beyond conflict-European nations that once waged wars across continents now thrive together in the EU, prioritizing prosperity. The U.S. and Japan, despite their brutal wartime past, have become close allies. Even Japan and South Korea, long at odds, are improving relations.

Yet, the subcontinent remains stuck, unable to embrace the same common sense. Until leaders shift their focus from division to cooperation, we will continue to lag behind in achieving our true potential.

 

[LeGenD]

ITS NOT ABOUT STOPPING WATER - Its about their existing infrastructure and using it to control water flow in a way that it is not present when needed and floods when not needed.

True. India can produce effects that can undermine Pakistani agriculture sector. Refuced water flows can also increase warming conditions. Underground water reserves also shrinking in some areas including Lahore. Car washing in homes being banned already. This is very unfortunate situation.