Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Blackbirdz!]

Even if fighter jets are shot down it's still gives a solid victory to India.....

India not only attacked Pakistan Azaad Kashmir but bahawalpur, muridke and other locations...... see how easily India always attacks even non disputed territory of Pakistan..... in 2019 also it attacked Khaibar pakhtunwa......

And even after attacking non disputed territory Pakistan only dares to attack disputed territory like kashmir..... this time too same is going to happen....

rest assured this isnt retaliation. This was just a warm up!
Rest stuff this yet to come.

 

[sutton9999]

 

[Cash gk]

What shame , idiots like tarar going on international media our standards fallen low

 

[Bratva]

 

[HRK]

We need to analysis the situation strategically

In recent events as of now India has
- suspended the IWT
- and violated International Border of Pakistan.

By these two actions they violated economic and political sovereignty and prosperity of Pakistan. To any NORMAL STATE these are most critical foundations of statehood.

In strategic terms India is declaring that they can "unilaterally take any initiative as per their will and time of chosing against Pakistan" both in military terms and in economic front beyond the legal boundaries and Pakistan is not a normal state.

In short they are disputing our existence as a Sovereign State, and by their unilateral actions they are enforcing the perception of Dominion State for us who have limited Sovereignty.

This is the NEW NORM which they want to establish.

Now what Pakistan has done till now and more importantly we must answer what should be done to create the DETERRENCE against Indian attempts of enforcing the New Norm in South Asia which MUST deter India taking any Unilateral actions related to Pakistan.

For the first part as we all know Pakistan has retaliated again and the result of both retaliation current and previous one are known; but the question is
Previous retaliation in 2019 has not deterred India to take any Unilateral actions in relation to Pakistan infact even after previous retaliation

- India has abolished the article 370

- Has withdrawn from UN resolution related to Kashmir

- Attempted to change the demography of Kashmir

- Suspension of IWT which is direct attack on economy of Pakistan as agriculture is 24% of Pakistan's GDP and almost 50% labor is employed in agriculture sector and affiliated segments.

So was it effective?? Has it created the any deterrence???

Obviously answer is NO.

so could the current retaliation of Pakistan create the DETERRENCE against the India???

It depends if we stop here then NO, so the question is what more is needed to Create the Deterrence which could stop India to attempt to create the New Norm in south Asia.

To answered this question we must understand India increase the tension with Pakistan at their will and at the time which coincide with the timing of internal political importance and requirements of India

Therefore we MUST retaliate in such a manner which MUST shatter the image of Strong Personality and Saviour of a certain person and his political party.

Therefore only targeting the military targets will not effect the psychology of the Indian population; we must target High Impact and High Visibility Targets which must increase the "Political and Economic cost" for India.

 

[maxpane]

why why why restraint.they attaked your children and still you are showing restrain. wt f

 

[S.Y.A]

I remember when India also claimed victory on losing a jet, a pilot as a POW, being returned as a goodwill gesture.

India celebrates victory over everything.

Makes sense that it took 2 weeks for the Indian military to grow a pair and attack innocents, including women and children....very "brave" indeed.

Do sing your victory songs to France, Russia, andthe families of the killed/ injured pilots.

he is right though. no more responses in a disputed area. should hit in undisputed indian territory.

CAA has also opened airspace between lahore and karachi, i think the army is planning to de-escalate.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

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[Bilal]

So when is the response?

These are just defensive actions that are to be expected.

 

[Cash gk]

Guys, you cannot stop supersonic missiles even Israel with American Western Tech cannot stop. What is big news Whil defensive retaliation destroying five Indian Jets is massive news..

 

[Cash gk]

We need to analysis the situation strategically

In recent events as of now India has - suspended the IWT
- and violated International Border of Pakistan.

By these two actions they violated economic and political sovereignty and prosperity of Pakistan. To any NORMAL STATE these are most critical foundations of statehood.

In strategic terms India is declaring that they can "unilaterally take any initiative as per their will and time of chosing against Pakistan" both in military terms and in economic front beyond the legal boundaries and Pakistan is not a normal state.

In short they are disputing our existence as a Sovereign State, and by their unilateral actions enforcing the perception of Dominion State who have limited Sovereignty.

This is the NEW NORM which they want establish.

Now what Pakistan has done till now and more importantly we must answered what should be done to create the DETERRENCE against Indian attempt of enforcing the New Norm which MUST deter India taking any Unilateral actions related to Pakistan.

For the first part as we all know Pakistan has retaliated again and the result of both retaliation current and previous one are known; but the question is
Previous retaliation in 2019 has not deterred India to take any Unilateral actions in relation to Pakistan infact even after previous retaliation

- India has abolish the article 370

- Has withdraw from UN resolution related to Kashmir

- Attempted to change the demography of Kashmir

- Suspension of IWT which is direct attack on economy of Pakistan as agriculture is 24% of Pakistan's GDP and almost 50 labor is employed in agriculture and affiliated segments.

So was it effective?? Has it created the deterrence???

Obviously answer is NO.

so could the current retaliation create the DETERRENCE against the India???

It depends if we stop here then NO, so the question is what more is needed to Create the Deterrence which could stop India to attempt to create the New Norm in south Asia.

To answered this question we must understand India increase the tension at there will at the time which concise withe the timing of internal political importance and requirements.

Therefore we MUST retaliate in such manner which shatter the image of Strong Personality and Saviour of a certain person his political party.

Therefore only targeting the military targets will not effect the psychology of the Indian population; we must target High Impact and High Visibility Targets which must increase the "Political and Economic cost" for India.

War is eminent? We will not settle down Pakistan n India will not settle down. They will destroy each other once.

 

[Strigon]

he is right though. no more responses in a disputed area. should hit in undisputed indian territory.

CAA has also opened airspace between lahore and karachi, i think the army is planning to de-escalate.

Pretty sure a military think tank is better aware of target selection than someone's wish list. Moreover, as we heard from the press conference, the jet repulsion differs from the responses, which are still 'pending'.

 

[White Privilege]

Guys, you cannot stop supersonic missiles even Israel with American Western Tech cannot stop. What is big news Whil defensive retaliation destroying five Indian Jets is massive news..

I am discounting anyone who demands that and not many are questioning PAF response as well. All eyes now glued of the much expected PAF response and , as a result ،confirmation of casualties on enemy side

 

[Anaa]

So when is the response?

These are just defensive actions that are to be expected.

This is perhaps the unique instance in warfare history that both belligerents are taking and giving each other plenty of time to cherry pick targets and respond with time and place of bla bla at the cost of the lives they swore to protect. What to make of this ?

 

[13 Assassins]

Guys, you cannot stop supersonic missiles even Israel with American Western Tech cannot stop. What is big news Whil defensive retaliation destroying five Indian Jets is massive news..

They attacked outside the disputed region. This is an act of war. Pakistan has every right to hit the evil Gujurati Baniya state.