Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NA71]

Wow!

If that pic is real, that is the final deal clincher!

Issi par neeboo ...naryal lagaya tha na.....

 

[Blackbirdz!]

Are you seriously blaming the French and the Rafale for the Indians' performance?

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Blaming the French Airforce and the decisions of their government! afterall it wasnt my decision to join NATO so late in 2009 or was it? nor it was my decision to not go for a 5th gen project because Rafale had supposedly scored a kill on F22 in some mock exercises? have you forgotten what i told you 2 years ago in previous forum?
There is a reason why PAF rejected Rafales in 2006 for F16C/D back then. And today you can see the results.
Not to say Indians dont have a hand in it.......but French themselves arnt very good at what they do either. Some of their decisions arnt short of a blunder!
Im the same guy who told you back then that Pakistan already has original PL15s since 2019. I showed you the Ace of PAF page on facebook.

Anyway, think abt it when was the last time you heard a french pilot scoring an Air 2 Air kill? WW2???
Every aircraft is truly a reflection of the battle exp. of its home airforce.

 

[KPK-4Ever]

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And this a ripped off engine during high g whatever?

Yup duck tape came off

 

[Meengla]

Btw ... Just a perspective on Pakistan launching more strikes. As of now, we have already:

• Downed 5 planes
• Destroyed a Brigade HQ which is burning since last night
• Destroyed dozens of posts
• By all accounts coming from Indian sides, they had at least 13 civilian deaths and 54 Injuries since last night.
• Jets fell over their school & fields.
• There is a communication blackout across Kashmir to hide the losses

India too has suffered many casualties and destruction and so it is not right for some to frame this was 5 Indian planes vs Pakistani civilians. And I know some PDF members are paddling a certain narrative and that's for their domestic political needs: They just don't stop and when some of us push back the mods jump in. They should stop their non-sense and go to some political thread on PDF instead!

so what really is the point in escalating it more than we have already done ? If they got the message, they got the message. If they will learn, they will learn it,

I too have thought along those lines and see some merit in that. But I don't think India has learned the lesson for long term yet. Maybe they will be quiet for the next 5-6 years and then try again; the Indian over-reaction to Pahalgam suggests long term goals against Pakistan. I think Pakistan should take the initiative and take back IoK. This time, India is more isolated than ever on the international support for this conflict, the Kashmiris in IoK are more alienated than ever, the Chinese are sitting on top of Ladakh, the Sikhs in Indian Punjab and even in the Indian military have questionable loyalty toward India and, above all, Pakistanis for the first time WANT a war against India because the decades old Indian blackmail has forced Pakistanis to.

 

[Olympus81]

Bhai serious question

Our retaliation is going to happen or not? Or are we going for de-escalation before that?

Will be a cardinal sin.

In light of IWT abeyance and deep strike within Pakistan.

 

[Mobius]

I will be extremely disappointed if a hard response is not given. Their 56" chest needs to be deflated immediately. The words coming out the mouth of the political leadership is not nearly as aggressive as it should be. I sincerely hope the military overrule and give the Endia's a good drilling. Their randi ronna needs to be heard from the heights of the K2 to the depths of Gwadar.
As the saying goes, "Tawa abhi thatha thatha hay, tow action karo" - "Take action whilst the pan is hot"

Let's go boys. Destroy them. And as a bonus, take a sector of IoK whilst you're at it. The military higher ups in Gandustan are in panic at our air superiority, so kick their teeth in whilst they're down.

 

[HRK]

Huge if true! Indians can’t deny this solid evidence.

You are wrong here Indians will not only deny but would make it part their belief that Rafale was not destroyed but targeted F-16 and J-10

 

[Maarkhoor]

Bhai, i was always here....never went away.

Bhai tag you many times but anyway welcome back to active again.

 

[airhead]

Why wasn’t the jf17 used in any of this ? Or was it ? It also carries pl5 right or was that only for show? Can it actually fire pl15? I hear its radar is limited so cannot lock more than 100km whereas j10 has a bigger radar and can lock 200km+. Is that true? Either way I am happy but also disappointed that jf17 did not register a single a-a kill

 

[LeGenD]

Are you seriously blaming the French and the Rafale for the Indians' performance?

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She is cute...

 

[Ak01]

You are wrong here Indians will not only deny but would make it part their belief that Rafale was not destroyed but targeted F-16 and J-10

actually- rafales, in a heroic act of Sati, crashed into inbound PL-15's to save their SU30MKI's.

 

[Ak01]

Why wasn’t the jf17 used in any of this ? Or was it ? It also carries pl5 right or was that only for show? Can it actually fire pl15? I hear its radar is limited so cannot lock more than 100km whereas j10 has a bigger radar and can lock 200km+. Is that true? Either way I am happy but also disappointed that jf17 did not register a single a-a kill

nobody knows what killed. Just know PL-15s launched

 

[Oscar]

India too has suffered many casualties and destruction and so it is not right for some to frame this was 5 Indian planes vs Pakistani civilians. And I know some PDF members are paddling a certain narrative and that's for their domestic political needs: They just don't stop and when some of us push back the mods jump in. They should stop their non-sense and go to some political thread on PDF instead!


I too have thought along those lines and see some merit in that. But I don't think India has learned the lesson for long term yet. Maybe they will be quiet for the next 5-6 years and then try again; the Indian over-reaction to Pahalgam suggests long term goals against Pakistan. I think Pakistan should take the initiative and take back IoK. This time, India is more isolated than ever on the international support for this conflict, the Kashmiris in IoK are more alienated than ever, the Chinese are sitting on top of Ladakh, the Sikhs in Indian Punjab and even in the Indian military have questionable loyalty toward India and, above all, Pakistanis for the first time WANT a war against India because the decades old Indian blackmail has forced Pakistanis to.

The equation is simple - India wants no response after what’s already been done otherwise it is threatening to go all out with their preplanned attack areas.

From a pure paper perspective Pakistan has no hope for victory in that scenario but so far paper has been less than accurate

 

[FHN]

 

[5thgenEnjoyer]

Rafale tail fin, same registration

@Be dazzled @RescueRanger has this been posted yet?