Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Lone Ranger said:
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Swear I will personally give chumma to Asim Muneer pechwara if we bomb the shit out of India proper (not IIOK).


Pakistan honour and dignity is at line.....
 
Aggregate said:
Btw ... Just a perspective on Pakistan launching more strikes. As of now, we have already:
  • Downed 5 planes
  • Destroyed a Brigade HQ which is burning since last night
  • Destroyed dozens of posts
  • By all accounts coming from Indian sides, they had at least 13 civilian deaths and 54 Injuries since last night.
  • Jets fell over their school & fields.
  • There is a communication blackout across Kashmir to hide the losses
Indian Media is working for a Modi win. they are not gonna show anything negative about India or its response. They are not really focusing on any of the above or they are outright denying them.

If we want Indian Media to wail and cry, its never happening, so what really is the point in escalating it more than we have already done ? If they got the message, they got the message. If they will learn, they will learn it, their Media though, is never gonna admit Pakistan's upper hand, never ever and not going to show it to their people. Say if we even attack their cities, they will make up some kind of stories to spin that around as well.

So we do have to keep this in mind when demanding more action. Isn't what we done suitable enough ? No matter what we try, can we even effectively deliver the message to their public, ever, on top of their media's noise ? Or should we take confidence in PAF and Army's response without seeking validation of our response from India and their Media, and put and end to it ?
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Plus some dam and rss bjp terrorist headquarter and then it would be matched in escalation ladder sense.
 
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There is no evidence of 3 rafales down. We need to wait more. Overall 5 airjeets down are pretty much confirmed. PAF will release footage down the road.
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Don’t be too sure..Paf never released any footage from 2019
 
Blackbirdz! said:
Blaming the French Airforce and the decisions of their government! afterall it wasnt my decision to join NATO so late in 2009 or was it? nor it was my decision to not go for a 5th gen project because Rafale had supposedly scored a kill on F22 in some mock exercises? have you forgotten what i told you 2 years ago in previous forum?
There is a reason why PAF rejected Rafales in 2006 for F16C/D back then. And today you can see the results.
Not to say Indians dont have a hand in it.......but French themselves arnt very good at what they do either. Some of their decisions arnt short of a blunder!
Im the same guy who told you back then that Pakistan already has original PL15s since 2019. I showed you the Ace of PAF page on facebook.

Anyway, think abt it when was the last time you heard a french pilot scoring an Air 2 Air kill? WW2???
Every aircraft is truly a reflection of the battle exp. of its home airforce.
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Rafale allegedly shot down now has NOTHING to do with PAF “rejecting” the Rafale.

PAF was very impressed with Rafale but could not afford it and did think it was overpriced vs the Eurofighter.

F-16 purchase and upgrade had no relationship nor consideration with Rafale or EF or Gripen - they were coming regardless.
 
HRK said:
You are wrong here Indians will not only deny but would make it part their belief that Rafale was not destroyed but targeted F-16 and J-10
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Sir...too late now ...almost all international media is reporting the Rafales shooting down.....

Its like they wanted this news to come....
 
Blackbirdz! said:
Blaming the French Airforce and the decisions of their government! afterall it wasnt my decision to join NATO so late in 2009 or was it? nor it was my decision to not go for a 5th gen project because Rafale had supposedly scored a kill on F22 in some mock exercises? have you forgotten what i told you 2 years ago in previous forum?
There is a reason why PAF rejected Rafales in 2006 for F16C/D back then. And today you can see the results.
Not to say Indians dont have a hand in it.......but French themselves arnt very good at what they do either. Some of their decisions arnt short of a blunder!
Im the same guy who told you back then that Pakistan already has original PL15s since 2019. I showed you the Ace of PAF page on facebook.

Anyway, think abt it when was the last time you heard a french pilot scoring an Air 2 Air kill? WW2???
Every aircraft is truly a reflection of the battle exp. of its home airforce.
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The highlighted statement = so true. Absolutely golden and should be kept in mind.
 
M. Sarmad said:
On one hand, a war is actively being fought with India..... on the other, the Supreme Court has today allowed military trials for our own citizens (read PTI and IK)...... astonishing timing, but then again, some idiots never learn...
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Yes. Decision purposefully announced today when media attention is towards Pak India clash
 
Its seems no more action for now....all ministers telling the same line....if India .......then we will
 
Michael said:
It's been decades since India introduced the Su-30MKI, and the contract at the time also included the technology introduction. To date, India is still unable to build the Su-30MKI in its entirety.

So what makes you think they can reverse engineer a similar product from such a wreck in two years?

My friend, they are Indians, do you understand?
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Thanks for improvising
 
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