Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Cesur said:
Pakistani secularists often claim that the BJP is India’s only problem and that everything else is fine and that we share some culture—but that couldn’t be further from the truth. In reality, most Indians support the Hindutva ideology, and even many Indian Muslims side with it when it comes to Pakistan. The Congress party, too, has a history of strained relations with Pakistan. Bottom line: the people of India—and their culture and civilization—pose a genuine threat to us.
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Indians have not accepted Pakistan as a country. they hate us as a break away region.. they hate us as Muslims, they hatte us as humans. I have lived lonnggg with them to see behind their hand shakes and smiles.
Each and every success of ours... individual... collective or tht of as a nation.. hits them deep.
 
13 Assassins said:
You are the mehmanawzi type of pathetic person. Even if your loved one was attacked by the enemy you would still welcome the enemy and forgive them. Your sort, are truly pathetic. A weak poor pathetic foolish individual.
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This assessment is deeply flawed. Nothing "weak" about targeting only the persons and infrastructure that have actually inflicted the harm. In fact, this is basic operating procedure for anyone who is remotely civilised.

The problem at present is that I am not sure that Pakistan will respond at the optimal time, if at all.
 
Well, looks like the boys from 5 Sqd now have to vacate top table for the 15 sqd crew.
In all honesty, would even Alam, Rafique, Haider or Middlecoate mind if we made May 7th PAF Day?

I really thought Feb 27th 2019 would have been the best day for PAF in my lifetime, but how even I underestimated our young men. Up against larger numbers and some of the best fighter jets in the world look what they did.

What's he that wishes so?
My cousin, Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enough
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say "To-morrow is Saint Crispian."
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day."
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words—
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester—
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be rememberèd—
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
 
Aggregate said:
With respect to his age, Khawja Asif, in the last 10 days alone has said more dumb things than anyone ever did in the last 70 years of Pakistan's history. Its a wonder he alone did not get sanctions imposed on Pakistan single handedly.
  • We have been doing dirty work of the west.
  • We captured Indian soldiers, no we did not
  • Proof of Downed Jets is Social Media
... and a lot more ... Can someone at least get him an assistant who can do the talking ?
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The guy literally just says dumb things and is due to nepotism he is there


Make the disadvantage into a different narrative

If he say enough dumb things most will just disregard him and it averages out
 
Oscar said:
Not exactly - it just wont be a cake walk as they are expecting. All comes down to local commanders and leadership guile on both sides. Remember, PA made some serious blunders in 71 which nearly cost Pakistan these axis and it was all due to ignorance in part of commanders and poor coordination with PAF.
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I seriously doubt Asim Muneer is going to pull a Yahya khan and unilaterally order 18 div to push to Jaisalmer without air cover
 
Yasser76 said:
Well, looks like the boys from 5 Sqd now have to vacate top table for the 15 sqd crew.
In all honesty, would even Alam, Rafique, Haider or Middlecoate mind if we made May 7th PAF Day?

I really thought Feb 27th 2019 would have been the best day for PAF in my lifetime, but how even I underestimated our young men. Up against larger numbers and some of the best fighter jets in the world look what they did.

What's he that wishes so?
My cousin, Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enough
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say "To-morrow is Saint Crispian."
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day."
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words—
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester—
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be rememberèd—
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
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This doesn't get old for me 😂

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