Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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@RescueRanger you still believe we will respond ??

This is utter humiliation, how can a respectful nation call off retaliation when enemy did strikes deep inside many cities in Pakistan. What kind of PM and defense ministers we got? Are they all only to humiliate Pakistan?

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As far as fight jet downing is concerned. I am telling here to ALL PDFers, india will not even accept a single loss. Even if there is wreckage photo evidences. That serial number BS001, they will simply paint and write same serial number to another Rafale and show it in their fly past and will mock up. The REAL thing which is unforgettable is all those massive explosions and fireballs that happened in Pakistani cities captured by citizens and being showed in indian and intl media 24/7. We only want to see the same thing at other side. You retaliate an attack on your soverign land in the same manner. Iran did that to Israel. Even houthis do that. Every country respond in the same manner. You can't allow another country to rain down missiles at your cities. You cannot give this licence ever. Need a firm deterance right now.
 
Asif said:
can the attack be actually an Indian ploy to make an excuse for another round of escalation and an excursion into pakistan?
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You never know with the BJP...
 
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The game here is not Rafale or other fighter planes..It is the ability to monitor, confuse and advanced electronic warfare..

The neutralization of the Indian AWACS was not an option but rather a pivotal tactical necessity. Its high radar imprint (RCS) and its constant radiation makes it a attractive negative point for any advanced ESM system. What Pakistan did - most likely - is the implementation of a coordinated electronic chain that began to monitor the AWACS fingerprint passively, and pass its accurate coordinates (4D) immediately to the ground EW EA, which led to the isolation of Indian fighters from the air command center.

Then the fighters lost their network cover, and became "blind" in a battlefield running in kilowatts and waves before the missiles. Pakistan took advantage of this moment and pushed advanced BVR platforms equipped with PL-15 missiles capable of killing from outside of the opponent's combat awareness.

But the most important thing is that the PL-15 is nothing but the spearhead in an integrated series of capabilities: a passive long-range detection, advanced electronic support, penetration of communications signals, and perhaps even disturbing the spectrum set for Indian Leadership systems.

Conclusion: Whoever controls the electromagnetic spectrum ... controls the sky.. It appears that the Pakistanis yesterday were the ones who controled the "right wave at the right time".
 
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@RescueRanger you still believe we will respond ??

This is utter humiliation, how can a respectful nation call off retaliation when enemy did strikes deep inside many cities in Pakistan. What kind of PM and defense ministers we got? Are they all only to humiliate Pakistan?

Some sane voice in media:

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As far as fight jet downing is concerned. I am telling here to ALL PDFers, india will not even accept a single loss. Even if there is wreckage photo evidences. That serial number BS001, they will simply paint and write same serial number to another Rafale and show it in their fly past and will mock up. The REAL thing which is unforgettable is all those massive explosions and fireballs that happened in Pakistani cities captured by citizens and being showed in indian and intl media 24/7. We only want to see the same thing at other side. You retaliate an attack on your soverign land in the same manner. Iran did that to Israel. Even houthis do that. Every country respond in the same manner. You can't allow another country to rain down missiles at your cities. You cannot give this licence ever. Need a firm deterance right now.
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I appreciate your emotions, you will see, defenders of Pakistan will not let Pakistan down. Besides Pakistan has shocked the arrogant Indians, the West and many who thought as an insignificant ant that could be crushed underfoot.

Analysts will study what Pakistan did yesterday for years to come.
 
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if it's an inside job then Sargodha.. lahore or kamra need to be ready.
The Indian government can make a pahalgam out of thin air, and... similarly, they can sacrifice a few dozen Sikhs too, while blaming them on Pakistan. kills 2 birds with one stone.
 
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