Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Pakistan definitely needs a few more AA systems. I'd say one more anti-ballistic system and maybe a couple of different SHORADS. Add some more numbers.
ABM, yes, eventually. SHORADS I have already mentioned (short and mid ranged quick reaction systems).
 
Descalation was always inevitable, both countries understood the consequences of further escalation

Let's not anyone be STUPID

Both countries have the means to target each other, fire missiles, hit targets a d the A.D is the sub continent is LIMITED

So to avoided further escalation, descalation was the only choice


India moronically without evidence targeted civilians.

Indian airforce was UTTERLY HUMILIATED and subsequently WENT MISSING, a great victory for the PAF

Both countries targeted each other, targeted bases, targeted sites
Pakistan stuck to military targets

The Indians were haramis and went the Jew route, this is something we need to look at, at whether we need to hit the Hindus or just military targets



Considering everything, it is what it is PAF and Army did their job


Let's be clear DETERRENCE is established, the IAF was disgraced and that in of itself will keep the indians quite

In the end the Indians as well as Pakistan wanted descalation and you have to question was any of it worth it,

India lost a billion on lost planes and soldiers will have died on the front


The indians are stupid and hindutva is poisonous and we need to prepare for them


The PTI fanboys will need to be kicked in the face
The indians will go into delusional fantasy about how they never lost a Rafael a d the PTI fanboys will go into Randi Rona mode

We can't allow that to happen and we must gradually get all the information out there to humiliate India in the aftermath

India humiliated our national soverinity continously for 4 days by launching major attacks across Pakistan in our major cities and in our major airbases. Our very very mild retaliation was only targetted to empty airstrips at 100 km range of our border. What a way to fool the nation lol. We didn't even touched Mumbai or Kolkata or any major city while india did attacks on Rwp, Isd, Lahore, Karachi, Bhawalpur... They also targeted our major airbases, we only struck empty airstrips that are at 100 km range of our borders. Try to have some dignity.

We failed because we severely lack leadership. Our pilots are great, our soldiers are brave but we only lack leadership.

India made a new normal of violating our national sovereignty that without consequences in the same manner. Cope with it.
 

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You can create solutions that get around geographic limitations. to create more vectors.

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Launching Cruise/ballistic missiles from Submarines in the Bay of Bengal, that creates new vectors. Right now they just freeze their western border, while its business as usual in the rest of the country, meanwhile all air traffic over pakistan is closed and places deep in the interior like Peshawar are being hit. So in effect, there is a deeper disturbance to Pakistan than there is to India, you need alternative solutions than purely relying on land attacks vectors all coming out of Punjab.
We start using subs then they start using subs. It gets a lot messier for both sides. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be. Neither side wants war. too many lives would be lost
 
France will now put $200 million Rafale fighter at 50% clearnce item for $100 million or best offer. Soviets blamed “incompetent” Arab pilots when their best fighters were shot down by Zionazis and now French may blame Indian pilots and their strategy.
Prominent French military aviation channel accepting loss of the Rafale. I believe run by a French military pilot.

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By your logic the Muslim armies firing Trebuchets into Kufar cities in jihad were not hitting civilians? We want to see missiles hitting Indian military buildings inside urban areas not this weak response.
Urban targets means collateral damage and tell me did our Prophet (PBUH) and his companions killed civilians during Jihad?
 
Drones/projectiles confirmed flying towards Jammu. No pakistan official comments on it though similar to what we were seeing previous days.
 
Nationalistic rhetoric and religious emotional blackmail aside Pakistani successive govts had time and again sabotaged any opportunity to liberate Kashmir by always caving in to international pressure .

If it was remotely mathematically possible, we would have taken that chance. Instead we have gone against the odds for Kashmir time and time again.

Pakistan alone cannot take Kashmir militarily let alone hold it. So if we are not being nationalistic, lets be realistic.

You can fault us for our efforts but not for the lack of trying.
 
We start using subs then they start using subs. It gets a lot messier for both sides. It's not as simple as you're making it out to be. Neither side wants war. too many lives would be lost

yes, but their submarines attacks, that changes nothing in terms of the direction of attacks, it would all be either from the East or from the South. Which frankly they have already hit from before(They tried hitting air bases in Karachi last night), so in terms of air defense posture, nothing significant here whether that missile attack is launched via land/air as it was last night or by sea..

But if Pakistan does it for example from the Bay of Bengal, suddenly its a very different ballgame, b/c their air defense is not geared for attacks from the east and from the ocean.

If they were to try to do something like an equivalent to launching from the bay of bengal, they would have to launch from Afghanistan or something, but thats very difficult to do, as it requires Afghanistan participating in such an attack as well as Iran allowing for the transportation of systems to afghanistan.
 
ABM, yes, eventually. SHORADS I have already mentioned (short and mid ranged quick reaction systems).
Would you still go for Chinese or try something else for variety?
 
You can create solutions that get around geographic limitations. to create more vectors.

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Launching Cruise/ballistic missiles from Submarines in the Bay of Bengal, that creates new vectors. Right now they just freeze their western border, while its business as usual in the rest of the country, meanwhile all air traffic over pakistan is closed and places deep in the interior like Peshawar are being hit. So in effect, there is a deeper disturbance to Pakistan than there is to India, you need alternative solutions than purely relying on land attacks vectors all coming out of Punjab.
I agree with you but the problem is lack of resources... let's hope our economy takes off.
 

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