Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

We are Muslim we are not allowed to targets of civilian in nature Islam wont allow us to target civilians, Pakistan was only retaliated where we can expect to the next wave of Indian strike will come
By your logic the Muslim armies firing Trebuchets into Kufar cities in jihad were not hitting civilians? We want to see missiles hitting Indian military buildings inside urban areas not this weak response.
 
Pakistan unwilling to attack deeper in india vs India attacking Peshawar

We need conventional weapons that can strike deeper including stealth drones.

Need better counter measures and air defense
Peshawar is less than 200 km from Indian controlled territory.
 
Americans said it themselves. You think I’m drink cow urine, bro?

We don’t need to do our own tarred. World ain’t blind, saaR!
Perhaps Pakistan told USA that to act as if India got scared so we get an off ramp India strategically dominated
 
I'd like to smoke some of this too please.

We have a ceasefire - we did well operationally - strategically it was terrible. I don't mean from a purely military level - I mean from a detterent perspective.

As for this new found patriotism which has manifested itself in the form of love for GHQ and the Sharif kandan - remember Pakistan would not be as vulnerable as it is - had it not been for the property dealers and thier 40 thieves.


Kaash the restraint shown towardd the enemy was extended to our citizens. Even in the midst of an enemy attack the Supreme Court saw fit to rubber stamp military courts for civilians and they blocked Imran Khan from meeting with his family and lawyers.

We won't forget so easily. It's only a matter of time before they infringe on you personally too.

Please no more no more PTI Randi Rona

Give us at least a few weeks break
 
I am seeing some videos of gunshots heard and a missile launching towards india from ajk, any truth?
 
Multiple Indian bases were attacked, multiple casualties were inflicted

Once Indian airforce has been removed from the air, it was just a shooting match

Pakistan chose it's set of targets India chose theirs


Pakistan made a choice not to go after civilians, even Hindus, I personally wanted Hindus roasted
But that's a military choice

India did not want escalation and neither could either country afford it


Their has never been deterrence, the only deterrence is that if you attack us we will hit back, and we hit back and hard
Pakistani civilians don't feel safe in Lahore and Islamabad then why should Indians in Mumbai and Delhi feel safe?
 
Pakistan

This doesn't just seem right

Congratulations to PAF though

If you minus the PAF - this doesn't look good on Pakistan


So much for maturity/restraint/time place of choosing

The land army of Pakistan was taken for a ride by India in this whole episode.

Might write a write up soon on this...
too soon bro, take a breather, it's not hard.
 
It showed that Pakistani cities and critical infrastructure are easy targets and Pakistan failed to establish deterrence by equal tit for tat on the Indian side
That was a CHOICE

could we target Delhi with a massive attack?

If the answer is yes, then what's the problem

Pakistan has a list of targets it went after
 
India begged US for the ceasefire
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This shows that the Indians are the masters of their own demise as usual and you also need a big 'dhanda' to bring the Indians into line which is what happened when the Army and airforce of Pakistan gave India a thorough beating last night ...

good video. one for the record!
 
See what I mean back to PTI Randi Rona
So you are proud of the performance or lack of from the donkey ministers.. zero leadership.. Khawaja Asif presenting social media as evidence… none of the government ministers capable of putting together a sentence in proper English in front of the world.. and you talk of pti randi Rona…

Nothing to do with PTI, if you cannot see the incompetence and lack of intellect.. of these imposed idiots, then I am afraid you are made of the same material..

Only a fool cannot recognise another fool…

These idiots like Dar and Khawaja are incapable of conducting any form of negotiation to the benefit of the country.. the likes of intellectuals like Jaishankar will run circles around them… A decent graduate from a western university can make them look like cretins…

We have plenty of intellectuals, unfortunately due to nepotism they are not given a chance which is why they are forced to go overseas…
 
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Some minor observations:

- Pakistan got exposure to a wider systems and capabilities of india
- Pakistan limited bringing forth similar spectrum and hence maintained future surprise
- Air defence designed around 2019 type of threat worked like a charm
- it also performed well against new environment of countering missiles but still had leakers

Future improvements:

- CIWS and short to mid ranged quick reaction system bolstering of AD specially around bases and strategic and economic assets with special emphasis on countering incoming PGMs (of all speeds and low RCS)
- Bolstering of AAA special emphasis on UAV and wrong munitions
- multiple runways on airfields
- More FOB and smaller Spread out fields for wartime
Pakistan definitely needs a few more AA systems. I'd say one more anti-ballistic system and maybe a couple of different SHORADS. Add some more numbers.
 
How is deterrence established when India was able to attack tier 1 cities and critical forward operating bases and Pakistan wasn’t able to do the same?
Tie 1 cities which are smack next to the border. Lahore is motar range from Indian border. Islamabad is 50 km.
 

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