Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

SkippedPath said:
Its not preparedness that is LACKING. The problem is that FEAR of Hindus starting a full scale war is hampering any meaningful retaliation.

The little Pakistani Army has done is after four days of being bombed is because they attacked air bases. If the Hindus kept attacking Masjids, Madrassas, namazi, wana be Maulvis, n lalloo panju in Pakistan like me n you, than no reply would have been given. Hindus attacked valued targets like Faujis, the AirBases, the army elite, the important people n that kind of forced the army to retaliate even though their preferred option was do nothing in retaliation. N we know it was the preferred option because soon as Hindus put their SEXY SEX OOZING CHOOZI in millitary briefing room n she flaunted her sex the Ghauri's, Abdali's, Nasr's between the legs went up into SALAMI mode ... We instantly accepted peace. It was the sex oozing hootie signal we were dying for.

Cowardice. How many Hindus did we kill, five, ten? I guarantee u our deaths of important people n damage to important infra is about five times of Hindus. I am not including the useless rabble, like Masjids, madrassas, maulvis, namazis. They don't count. Soon as we fired two missiles we forgot about them anyway. That's how much value they had.
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Or perhaps indians have lost way more people and resources than Pakistan has which is why trump had to intervene in order to broker a ceasefire. All is open to speculation.
 
Pakistan First said:
LEARN to understand what's called introspection.

How dare you accuse any other person by saying that you are INDIAN? You are EXACTLY acting as indian Godi media and extremists but difference is you are this side of the border. That's it. I am million times more patriot then the fools involved in useless jingoism who have nothing to care about our nation's sovereignty and deterance. Your only objective is point scoring which never has never foundation. Only emotional talk. No objective point. Talk with maps, why can't you comprehend the critical importance of nerve centers of the nation like its MAJOR cities.

Stupid Jingosim without a single ability to comprehend the situation, the redlines, the sovereignty of the nation.

Our pilots did one of the amazing jobs that's already being discussed everywhere. That happened at first 10 mins of enemy attack when we shot down 5 of their jets. It was our defensive action. We were defending our soil against onslaught aggression. Learn to understand this point. For next 4 days, india completely hammered us. They crossed every red line, they attacked our major airbases throughout the entirety of our country, deep inside our country and above all they attaked our major cities Lahore, Karachi, RWP, Islamabad, Peshawar, Bhawalpur everywhere... Our tit-for-tat response should have struck their cities deep inside india like Mumbai, Kolkata etc. We never even dared to touch their redlines. They struck our major airbases, central air command bases, norther air command bases, so finally after 4 days we started our retaliation and struck their empty airstrips near our border (all within 120 km range). We never struck deep inside india on any major indian airbase. We never struck any major indian city deep inside india.

Difference is obvious we got hammered for 4 days, india crossed every redline. we never touched their redlines. We got brilliant pilots, brave soldiers but we have leadership crisis. India was emboldened to attack us at our major cities only because they saw lack of leadership in Pakistan.

I have always said that Pakistan military capabilities are immense. Our soldiers and battlefield commanders are battle-hardened and brilliant. We could have stopped this gross violation of our nation at day 01 by giving timely response. We let them hit us and we eventually gave a mild response that did not included any projectile going towards indian major cities or any major airbase deep in india. Our strike was symbolic and non-escalatory. These are realities on ground. If we had not a lack of leadership then it was impossible for Bharat to ridicule our sovereignty like that. Hindutva only listens to strength.

You can see maps below and understand that they struck at entirety of Pakistan and our response was limited to border areas and empty airstrips near loc.

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Bottomline is, my heart bleeds that we let Hinduva terrorist state to attack our major cities without consequences at their own major cities only because of incompetence & total lack of our leadership.

Lahore, RWP, Karachi, Bhawalpur = Mumbai, KolKata, New Dehli, Hyderabad.

They attacked our major cities and crossed this redline. We did not attacked any of their city.

They attacked major airbases deep inside Pakistan. We didn't even touched any indian airbase deep inside india. We only hit empty airstrips across border.

Our only success which was brilliant was our pilots shooting down indian jets and that's all.
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I have refrained from saying much of what you have said here. Although there is one key detail that you haven't accounted for and that's time.

India took nearly two weeks strategizing and calibrating their response. In essence, Pakistan was operating two weeks behind India. We came out ahead in the first round by sheer brilliance from our servicemen on the front lines. They changed the ROEs and that was unexpected. It turns out they judged the situation correctly.

It also did not help that our decision makers have been more inclined to offering peace overtures without anyone taking a hard line. Where did all the hawks go? This has created a vacuum and allowed India to violate norms ("Red lines").

I'll have more to say on this but now is not the time.
 
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they want to bleed Pakistan by tousand cut i mean extending fighting time .
 
A young man has been martyred due to Indian firing at the Pakistan side of Kashmir .
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Cash gk said:
Two more pilots are in Pakistaní custody Al Jazeera news one of them is a woman
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I suspect if we got and arrested indian pilot. Then perhaps its the deal to not announce that and not show her on the media. As otherwise, Modi will require some more face saving to do. So indians might be telling our stupid regime to keep it under the rug and secretly gave her back. Given the state of our lack of leadership we may not even announce this and do exactly what indians wanted.

Ideally, we didnot struck back at indian major cities as they did. We did not struck major indian airbases deep inside india as they did. Atleast we should have enough bargain to show any captured pilot.

Indian Hindutva govt is popular with masses behind them, they got media which tell them to be aggressive (unlike ours which tells us to accept all the beatings without giving any retaliation). Their people know how to look strong like Doval, Jaishankar, modi himself. We got shehbaz and his team who only knows how to look weak. So I am not surprised that if we don't announce some of our victories deliberately to please indian regime.
 
Cash gk said:
Pakistan army has captured Indian army posts in Indian occupied Kashmir
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That's welcome news if verified, but ceasefire is looking bleak, as I said before it's just a breather Modi is a madman who won't accept defeat so easily.
 
gamaji said:
I was not happy with this 'pause' in the fighting. Now that Indians have thrown it into a trash can, Pakistan needs to start the next phase in its hammering Modi's ass. This time it should be first the economic infrastructure and then New Delhi. It is a God-gifted opportunity for Pakistan. Fully utilize it. In-Sha-Allah.
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Agreed go for Mundra port and reliance industries refinery.The two biggest financiers of modi need to Pay a price for supporting this lunatic
 
Hussain said:
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@Raj-Hindustani @Vkdindian1 @Thinking

What a shame!
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Delhi couldn’t stabilize the board. Not one concession was extracted from Islamabad. Pathankot still smolders. The grid still flickers.

Pakistan didn’t flinch. It didn’t fold. It escalated, absorbed, and redrew the board.

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Reality of Lindians
 
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