Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

No DG ISPR press conference? Something is a miss tbh. Did the civil leadership do the ceasefire deal without armed forces consent?
 
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Beyond Indian borders Indian media / ‘news’ outlets are a joke & this Vantage is no exception. Watch the recently animated and comical Indian hosts dancing around maps of Pakistan telling their people that Lahore has almost fallen, Rawalpindi has been flattened and Baluchistan has broken away - 🤡 show just like their Air Force🤣
 
As per the claims, It crashed inside our territory
Hope it’s true but Doubt it. Otherwise we would have shown the footage in wall to wall coverage, or at least there would have been chatter. Let’s wait till the dust settles.
 
Where is ISPR since our retaliation began? They should be the ones raising the issue of ceasefire violation by Indians.
They are playing wisely, forcing a ceasefire. We have leverage here.

If they don’t comply, The press conference would humiliate Indian Military with nothing held back.

If they do comply, Press conference would put curtain on somethings.
 
No DG ISPR press conference? Something is a miss tbh. Did the civil leadership do the ceasefire deal without armed forces consent?
Interesting POV. If true, could have severe consequences, especially for top leadership.
 
1. Pakistanis need to forget about the rumored pilot, whether if she is here/wasn't captured, captured but returned -- at this point is irrelevant considering we are facing a fresh round of attacks by the enemy. The focus should be on that!

2. While the enemy regrouped knowing that it would break the cease fire, we did not get that opportunity, this is conflict -- its not meant to be fair. Hence, we've got to be on our toes -- from this point, this is round 2. We've got to forget about the initial thrashing we've administered and focus on the task at hand.

3. The reason that India is backing from this ceasefire, is that they've nothing concrete. The only semblance of face saving they have is the last strike they conducted on our airbases. Aside from that, PAF has dominated the IAF 5:0, PA has intercepted most of India's drones and Pakistan has conducted strikes in to India as well. Not to mention, the wild claims the Indian media has made that has somehow turned the sane part of the Indian janta against them (them = the media).

4. The details of the cease fire have not been revealed, but going by what we know, Pakistan has not gained on the strategic level. Our victories are mostly on the tactical level. We haven't been able to do anything about the IWT, or the article 370. So while opening fire opens up the gate of suffering for both populations across the LOC and the international border, it also gives PA/PAF the opportunity to conduct another thrashing upping the ante because as demonstrated, the only time that India was willing to sit on the table was after a full fledged thrashing by Pakistan. Clearly, that wasn't enough for a lasting impression.
Just how in the world were you expecting a ceasefire to accomplish anything on #4?

This has nothing to do with the ceasefire. Those discussions will go on for yet another eternity. It is wishful thinking on either side to suggest other can be forced into a desired outcome. Pakistan and India are not going to get cowed down by each other. They will have to get "tired" of this and then realize, talks is the only way out. The world has experience with that. You will see that happen with Ukraine, Russia soon enough. France and England fought each other for 100 years in which 3.3 million lost their lives and then landed on a table for talks which led to peace.
 
Interesting POV. If true, could have severe consequences, especially for top leadership.
This buzdil civil leadership did not want to retaliate in the first place. The army had to force them to do everything: NSA, press conference with ishaq dar etc.
 
Guys any brief update for last 5-6 hours? Just woke up.
 

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