Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[gamaji]

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[Huzaifa]

Guys @Salza @RescueRanger It’s 7:30, where’s the press conference?

Ary has a time of 9:15 set for it to start on YouTube

 

[CombatCorner]

PAF probably got a couple hits in, credit to their Chinese BVRs. But India wasn’t aiming for a fight with the PAF. The mission was simple, hit specific terror camps, not escalate into a full military clash. Once Pakistan responded, India replied. That’s basic escalation logic.

The Rafale getting hit? Sure, embarrassing. But from India’s point of view, this was a first, striking deep inside Pakistan proper, not just Pakistan Azaad Kashmir. And it wasn’t some military dictatorship ordering it.

What stands out is how selective India was. Looks like only camps with confirmed intel were hit. Probably to avoid unnecessary escalation. But since Pakistan seemed more focused on claiming an airforce 'win’ than worrying about a few terror camps, India could’ve easily gone for the probable ones too.

And let’s be honest, hitting major Pakistani bases didn’t seem all that hard. India probably chose not to go for the overkill, deliberately holding back to avoid pushing things further.

Meanwhile, back home, the rest of India apart from the border states barely flinched. It was mostly something to discuss over chai. We were literally finalizing the UK trade deal at the same time — arguing over whisky tariffs and visa quotas for yoga instructors. That’s the advantage of scale.

Still, credit where it's due, the boys at PAF held their nerve, got their moment, and gave their press team something to work with. Can’t fault them for making the most of it.

Yup, I love me , who do you love
OK India first fired and hit some civilian infrastructure including Mosques, Pakistan went after the attackers and shot down some of them, still Pakistan never retaliated. The loss of air assets really hurt India and while realising that the IAF cannot deliver , it sent swarms of drones in effort to harrass Pakistani public. When most of the drones got neutralised without achieving the objective, India as a last resort started sending ballistic missiles not sparing civilian airports. Thus Pakistan had to response , remember Pakistan mainly used long distance rockets and Artillery.
Imagine if Pakistan had resorted to firing it's ballistic or cruise missiles.

 

[White Privilege]

PAF probably got a couple hits in, credit to their Chinese BVRs. But India wasn’t aiming for a fight with the PAF. The mission was simple, hit specific terror camps, not escalate into a full military clash. Once Pakistan responded, India replied. That’s basic escalation logic.

The Rafale getting hit? Sure, embarrassing. But from India’s point of view, this was a first, striking deep inside Pakistan proper, not just Pakistan Azaad Kashmir. And it wasn’t some military dictatorship ordering it.

What stands out is how selective India was. Looks like only camps with confirmed intel were hit. Probably to avoid unnecessary escalation. But since Pakistan seemed more focused on claiming an airforce 'win’ than worrying about a few terror camps, India could’ve easily gone for the probable ones too.

And let’s be honest, hitting major Pakistani bases didn’t seem all that hard. India probably chose not to go for the overkill, deliberately holding back to avoid pushing things further.

Meanwhile, back home, the rest of India apart from the border states barely flinched. It was mostly something to discuss over chai. We were literally finalizing the UK trade deal at the same time — arguing over whisky tariffs and visa quotas for yoga instructors. That’s the advantage of scale.

Still, credit where it's due, the boys at PAF held their nerve, got their moment, and gave their press team something to work with. Can’t fault them for making the most of it.

You targeted innocent civilians in the dead of night, destroying masjids and homes. This is your intel and target selection. We hit back at your military and that is when you tried to attack back but messed it up as well.....

 

[liuzhengdong]

PAF F-16 being given a water cannon salute after a victory lap .

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The information I got is that the United States has banned Pakistani F16s from attacking Indian fighter jets within Indian territory and they can only be used for national air defense.

 

[PakSword]

Diplomatically this will be the biggest blow for India from all this. After Clinton US and world forgot Kashmir, not it is in Trumps sights and Pak and India hyphentated again. Just imagining the heart burn this will give to Indians gives me a big smile

And Trump doesn't like being ignored.

 

[HAIDER]

Victor Gao is the Pakistani foreign minister and spokesman? .

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He is confronting all Western and Indian media and defending Pak position ....where are all silly PMLN officials etc.
China is defending on the foreign policy front and on the military side too.

 

[PakAl]

Everyone is going back to their normal lives but those who lost their loved ones will have their lives changed for ever. If a full India Pak war starts, millions will die from both sides.

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[pashtunkoum]

Can anyone tell me more about the Fatah missiles we used that brought them in panic mode?

Are these indigenous ?

 

[Path-Finder]

PAF probably got a couple hits in, credit to their Chinese BVRs. But India wasn’t aiming for a fight with the PAF. The mission was simple, hit specific terror camps, not escalate into a full military clash. Once Pakistan responded, India replied. That’s basic escalation logic.

The Rafale getting hit? Sure, embarrassing. But from India’s point of view, this was a first, striking deep inside Pakistan proper, not just Pakistan Azaad Kashmir. And it wasn’t some military dictatorship ordering it.

What stands out is how selective India was. Looks like only camps with confirmed intel were hit. Probably to avoid unnecessary escalation. But since Pakistan seemed more focused on claiming an airforce 'win’ than worrying about a few terror camps, India could’ve easily gone for the probable ones too.

And let’s be honest, hitting major Pakistani bases didn’t seem all that hard. India probably chose not to go for the overkill, deliberately holding back to avoid pushing things further.

Meanwhile, back home, the rest of India apart from the border states barely flinched. It was mostly something to discuss over chai. We were literally finalizing the UK trade deal at the same time — arguing over whisky tariffs and visa quotas for yoga instructors. That’s the advantage of scale.

Still, credit where it's due, the boys at PAF held their nerve, got their moment, and gave their press team something to work with. Can’t fault them for making the most of it.

what India has done is set a new parameter which will not benefit either side. this may seem like a new providence of striking Pakistan for anything that happens in IIOK or else where in India. But now under the new norm Pakistan will be able to score hits which under the old doctrine was purely of defensive posturing. Because the door now swings both ways. Time will tell if this new norm benefits in the long run. Personally it will be disastrous for both sides.

 

[Jango]

According to U.S. officials, it was serious intelligence that triggered urgent de-escalation efforts. Add to that reports suggesting India was genuinely rattled by Pakistan’s response.

Let’s see how it all unfolds... "if" they choose to reveal what was really happening behind the scenes...

As for Pakistan’s performance.... that’s not even up for debate. The world’s already talking about PAF taking down Rafales. That alone speaks volumes. Some things don’t need defending, they just echo on their own...

I've seen posts/rumors/comments on Twitter from the same CNN journalistic group that the shocking intel was in fact that India is going to bomb Chaklala and other bases.

No idea if true or not.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

Them… we (most of us) are the descendants of the converted ones my friend. We are not foreigners but the descendants of the Indus Valley civilization. 5000 years of history. Please maintain perspective.

Besides, we accepted and spread the Deen gradually and peacefully. If demographics hold, in 50 years, Muslims and Hindus will be evenly populated in South Asia. Don’t focus on conversion, leave that to the All Mighty. Focus on bettering our economy and our skills to achieve the GDP per capita so that in due time we will be a match for them on every level, and they will be forced to live with us in peace.

This isn't exactly True most current pakistanis ancestory is a mixture of invaders and indigenous if you go back to antiquity

 

[Meengla]

This is not over yet, that is why. It will come out to open, just as did Swift Retort details came out weeks and months after the event.

Yes.
And, unlike 2019, this time Pakistan will humiliate India through media in every way possible. You see: In 2019, there was the naive hope that India would use that crisis to get back to talks, such as along the Musharraf-Manmohan dialog. Pakistan had an Army backed Prime Minister then whose instinct was to have peace. But Pakistanis underestimated the forces behind Modi and we saw that after the Feb. 2019 skirmishes, the honorable return of Abhinandan to India, India instead started the legal occupation of IoK in August 2019 and since then started the Israel-like policies of 'settlements' into IoK.
Going forward, Pakistanis have realized that Modi's policies are not just for electoral gains in India: The policies have deep ideological roots of civilizational conflicts along the lines of the Zionists. And that's why I have been saying in this thread: Indians are the Zionists of Asia!

 

[Path-Finder]

Trump drops nuke on India..... tweet ...Trump focuses on Kashmir resolution ..

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Thats what India does not want! I bet there is regret now going to Trump for trying to de-escalate.

 

[Vapnope]

Yes.
And, unlike 2019, this time Pakistan will humiliate India through media in every way possible. You see: In 2019, there was the naive hope that India would use that crisis to get back to talks, such as along the Musharraf-Manmohan dialog. Pakistan had an Army backed Prime Minister then whose instinct was to have peace. But Pakistanis underestimated the forces behind Modi and we saw that after the Feb. 2019 skirmishes, the honorable return of Abhinandan to India, India instead started the legal occupation of IoK in August 2019 and since then started the Israel-like policies of 'settlements' into IoK.
Going forward, Pakistanis have realized that Modi's policies are not just for electoral gains in India: The policies have deep ideological roots of civilizational conflicts along the lines of the Zionists. And that's why I have been saying in this thread: Indians are the Zionists of Asia!

Thank you for saying this. I hope all pakistanis can read and understand the last line in particularly.