Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Are you the same Sabre from defencetalk.com?
SABRE said:
Pravin Sawhney. He is former Indian Army officer. IMO, he is one of the very few true defence analyst in the region with keen insight into operational perspective. Has a deep knowledge and understanding of India, Pakistan, China militaries. Also tries to be impartial to the best of his abilities. Praises Pakistan where praise is due, criticises India where critique is due.

He is part of the ForceIndia news magazine, & has his own vlog. Was banned during the war for his impartiality and rational thinking, which did not settle well with the government. He gave interview to Karan Thapar on TheWire, leading to TheWire also getting banned.
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I was the first one to say, S400 has been knocked off and 5 rafaeles were down, yesterday. Before, all this balloney imagery came out. It really doesnt require much to work out what has happend, franly.
 
M. Sarmad said:
Ah yes.... India was terrified of Munir. So much so that they began blocking our waters openly—something they had never dared to do before. Then came the suicide drones, the BrahMos salvos, the strikes on our airbases, even attacks on mosques and madrassas that killed 40. .. Sure, sounds like fear ..

Everyone knows why Gen. Munir lost public support, too much political meddling and a blatant disregard for the basic rights of anyone who didn’t toe the line...But that’s not what this thread is about... So instead of throwing around “Indian sponsored agent” labels and scoring cheap political points, how about we focus on the real threat we’re facing right now?

And just for the record—those you’re busy accusing of doing India’s bidding are the very ones who’ve been actively countering Indian propaganda for the past four days. It’s the same PTI that organized over a hundred rallies across the country today, in support of Pakistan and the armed forces, at a time when the boot polishers and Noon League brigade were nowhere to be seen. Can we, for once, set petty politics aside and focus on the very real threats we’re facing as a nation?
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Hold your horses dude, you are getting too emotional. Remember, It wasn't Asim Munir but Mr Bajwa who did all the dirty work. Munir simply continued what was already there. And don't get me started on democracy, etc., and this is coming from someone who use to be a STRONG supporter of Khan.

And as far as PTI countering Indian propaganda and what not, everyone with a gram of patriotism did this. As someone here said very clearly, if someone is yellow, then that someone is a Ghaddar. So I am glad that PTI showed that they were not Yellow; good on them.

I hope IK is released but NOT in Pakistan. If he cares for this country, he needs to go overseas for a very simple reason. THERE ARE INTERNATIONAL FORCES WHO HAD PLANS TO ELIMINATE HIM AND CAUSE SEVERE CIVIL UNREST IN PAKISTAN. So I hope that some sanity prevails and IK goes overseas to his kids and spend the rest of his life with them - he is 72 already.
 
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If India had to do a response press conference of yesterday Pakistani presser. That's a victory of Pakistan on itself.
 
RescueRanger said:
Have you seen the images of our Shaheed and what the indians are doing to them online?

You can show humility- I am showing humility - but a stone is answered with a stone. I will not be neutral. We will rub their noses in it. They raised their filthy eyes at our nation, martyred our innocent children.

Meanwhile people here were still doubting what we did and what we didn't... This is a victory from ALLAH!
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Yes, they are a belligerent and arrogant qom, no doubt they will abuse our martyrs.

But even still, that behaviour does more harm to them than to us.

They are a nation that gladly destroys itself with only a little nudge needed from us.
 
Xiaolong said:
Pakistan has proven that we can teach India a good lesson in conventional warfare. My hypothesis is India and USA want to achieve many goals with this propaganda . 1) Give some kind of face saving to Modi. 2) Prove that Pakistan don't have capability to fight a long conventional war. 3) Portrait that Pakistan nuclear isn't in safe hands and can be used very easily. 4) So, USA can continue sanction our missile program with a justification.
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If India and US team up against China, I think recent developments have proven with Pakistan in the mix, there is a strong possibility of humiliation.

Chinese need to give us more goodies. We will handle the marketing. 😎
 
Cash gk said:
Chinese strategic expert Professor Victor Mao (often referred to as China’s unofficial spokesperson) said:

China should be grateful to Pakistan and the Pakistani military, who have established the credibility of Chinese defense technology on the global stage. They have opened the door to China’s ‘superpower’ status. This debate is going to advance much
further.”
Please send this message on the front page. This is historical message.
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He is 100% spot on. By shooting down Rafale, Pakistan has probably repaid the loans for CPEC because they amount of Chinese weapons sale will go through the roof.
 
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