Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Some bastard had filmed a Pakistani HQ9P Battery uploaded on SM - the video had meta data which once extracted provided the viewers with exact coordinates accurate to within 15-30 meters with a 5% error margin.
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I have blurred these images for obvious reasons - but this shows why it is important NOT to film operational military vehicles during times of conflict. Thankfully where this batter was there were no reported strikes. Please be careful.
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The filming was so detailed with the camera operator zooming in and out and recording from different angles that this was not an innocent person recording army equipment out of curiosity - this was hostile surveillance.
maybe the military should devise a framework with civilian authorities to keep the public away from these places in time of conflict. if they can institute lockdowns in COVID and shutdown entire cities due to protests, they are more than capable of keeping people away or at least limited to their houses.

and maybe no internet and network coverage in areas of deployment....
 
They can order as many they like, fact is we know how to get rid of thier S400, by then we should have a better AD, and with J35 inducted it's going to be a nightmare for IAF.

I have heard Pakistani army has captured Indian checkpoints into IOK, is there any intention of returning them back to these Bhartoids.
Yes bro At loc we are inside 8 10 12 KMS at working boundary we are inside 15 to 20 KMs and at International border (Bahawalpur) Alhamdoliilah we at 20 to 35 Km inside.
 
Why am I not surprised - India a nation of liars can't digest the truth.

Hindutvas can't digest the truth, world has realised they live in thier own fake Bollywood world and after humiliation suffered at the hands of Pakistan nobody will take these jokers seriously anymore.
 

Pakistan’s use of J-10C jets and missiles exposes potency of Chinese weaponry​

Shooting down of India’s planes by Beijing’s customer Pakistan would mark the first time the fighters and their PL-15 missiles have been used in combat

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China's J-10 fighter jets of the People's Liberation Army air force. Photograph: Athit Perawongmetha/Reuters
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As India and Pakistan traded missile strikes over the weekend, and the world watched with horror as the two nuclear-armed neighbours erupted into open conflict, military analysts spotted something curious. Pakistan, it seemed, had used Chinese jets to shoot down India’s planes.

Last week, India launched missiles at Pakistan, in retaliation for a militant attack in Indian-administered Kashmir in April that killed 26 people. The conflict escalated with mutual strikes and drone attacks.


Pakistan claimed to have shot down several Indian air force fighter jets with Chinese-made missiles fired from Chinese-made J10-C jets. The Pakistani foreign minister Ishaq Dar told parliament the Pakistani-flown fighters had taken down India’s French-made Rafales. Dar said he had informed the Chinese and they were pleased. China’s social media celebrated.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...turned-from-brink-of-war-to-ceasefire-in-days
The use of J-10Cs by Pakistan would mark the first time the Chinese planes – and the PL-15 missiles they were carrying – have been used in combat anywhere in the world, giving military analysts a rare glimpse of their capabilities, and China’s military, the PLA, a crucial test case.

“Any state producing or buying weapons is keen to see how the product does in real conflict. Tests and exercises can tell most about capabilities of weapons, but the ultimate test is often combat,” said Siemon Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri).

China is a crucial ally of Pakistan. Sipri estimates that it is Pakistan’s biggest military weapons supplier, providing more than 80% of its stock from fighter jets to navy vessels and missiles.

Andrew Small, a Berlin-based senior fellow at the German Marshall Fund, said China gets particular benefit from seeing its weapons used against western equivalents. “It gives them a chance to assess their performance under far more complex and challenging conditions than usual, and with Pakistan this is not just about the fighter jets themselves, it’s about the missiles, the radar systems, and the whole technology spine of the Pakistani military, from electronic warfare capabilities to satellite systems.”

It’s not just western arms that China’s planes are being tested against. India has the support of both China’s biggest rival, the US, and its closest ally, Russia, which supplies 36% of India’s arms imports.

But analysts says it has provided a wake-up call about China’s military capabilities as it threatens to annex Taiwan.

“We may need to reassess the PLA’s air combat capabilities, which may be approaching or even surpassing the level of US air power deployments in east Asia,” Shu Hsiao-Huang, an associate research fellow at the Taiwan defence ministry-linked Institute of National Defense and Security Research, told Bloomberg.

Under the rule of Xi Jinping, China’s military has been modernising and expanding, with a goal to be capable of an air and land invasion of Taiwan by 2027.

Hu Xijin, the former editor of the nationalistic Chinese state-linked tabloid Global Times, said the incident showed Taiwan should feel “even more scared”.

Part of China’s contingency planning is an expectation that the US military and potentially others would be involved in defending Taiwan.

Yun Sun, director of the China programme at the Stimson Center, said the two combat theatres were not directly comparable, as a Taiwan invasion would probably involve more input from the navy, marines and army than this month’s limited conflict between India and Pakistan.

“And technically, India did not use American weapon systems during this round,” Sun said. “But the surprising victory of Chinese J-10 and PL-15 [missiles] will force people to reconsider the military balance of power in the event of a Taiwan contingency.”

The apparent success of the J-10C against the Rafales also boosts China’s reputation as a manufacturer and seller of weapons. While China is the world’s fourth largest arms exporter, more than half goes to Pakistan and the rest is mostly to smaller developed nations. It must work around US sanctions.

The share price of Chengdu Aircraft Corporation, which makes the J-10Cs, soared on the news.

Small said Pakistan was often seen as a showcase for Chinese weapons.

“A good performance demonstrates to others the benefits of maintaining a close partnership with Beijing as PLA capabilities advance, especially given the rumours that China provided Pakistan, one of its closest strategic partners, with versions of the PL-15 missiles that have a longer range than the usual export variant,” he said.

Wezeman said the shooting was too limited to draw a lot of firm conclusions about the state of China’s military, which has also been mired in corruption scandals in recent years.

“That said, the clash seems to support a general assessment that Chinese weapons are proving to have become a match for western weapons.”

China’s military and government have neither denied nor celebrated the J-10C claims. The foreign ministry said when asked that it was “not familiar” with the J-10C situation.

But on Tuesday China’s vice-foreign minister Sun Weidong met with Pakistan’s ambassador to China, Khalil Hashmi. “China welcomes and supports Pakistan and India achieving a comprehensive and lasting ceasefire,” a foreign ministry statement said.

“China is ready to continue to play a constructive role in this regard.”


 
Yes bro At loc we are inside 8 10 12 KMS at working boundary we are inside 15 to 20 KMs and at International border Alhamdoliilah we at 20 to 35 Km inside.

Masha Allah that's the best news, I hope they don't hand back these Checkpoints, Blood thirsty Bhartoids will definitely attack again, Moti jee is a desperate man now the elections are around the corner.
 
As you may now We are inside Indian claimed territory at Chumb.
Yes around Barnala area .. Indians had higher ground... Mfukers would be bombing right into my field... But Thanks to Almighty now they are pushed back further... Can't share anymore details though ..
 
maybe the military should devise a framework with civilian authorities to keep the public away from these places in time of conflict. if they can institute lockdowns in COVID and shutdown entire cities due to to protests, they are more than capable of keeping people away or at least limited to their houses.
Yes I agree but the problem is - these things are strategically placed - and they are designed to be mobile - however for instance in the west post 9/11 SAM batteries were installed in key cities in strategic locations in civi areas - the public knew about them but didn't flim them or share them because they were told if you did you would be arrested and because lets face it education helps.

You can use LE to create cordons etc but that would attract more attention, nothing is stopping people from recording from their rooftops - look at this:
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Another one - on SM - person is hiding behind a wall and recording Pak Arty placement - why hide, why record in such detail if you are innocent? I will tell you why because these people are working against the state! They know exactly what they are doing.

This is why I personally think we need to do the following:
1. Educate people on correct use of social media during war/crisis - this should be an advert on TV, Social Media, Radio, YouTube and banners everywhere, first day of any crisis/conflict - this ad should run alongside safety advice.
2. Educate people to identify misinformation/disinformation and how to prevent spread of fake news.
3. Inform people on how to report suspicious behaviour to the competent authorities.
4. Failing all this - wherever our strategic kit is - just disable 3g/4g in that area and throttle downstream/upstream for one night by working with ISPs - keep 2g and GSM band open for telephone calls and SMS.
5. Develop our own internal social media application similar to various Chinese specific ones that can only be accessed by Chinese mobile numbers just as 小红书 - I know beeper exists for government employees but it needs to be expanded to citizens of Pakistan.
 
Yes around Barnala area .. Indians had higher ground... Mfukers would be bombing right into my field... But Thanks to Almighty now they are pushed back further... Can't share anymore details though ..
I am at LOC near Tata Pani and fire soon be started here at my positions we are on higher grounds and peaks.

Just pray.
 
As I am suspecting India building at border to counter attack land forces to INTL border and at LOC.

Yes, It has been in discussion since last night...few commentators is predicting 10 to 12 days. One more incident in Kashmir and they will use the pretext of "New Normal".
 

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