Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Taimoor]

This..

You are terribly mistaken. Its easy to imagine things while sitting in Pakistan, rest of the world operates at different pace and narrative shaping is not for slow movers. Our boomers are stuck in 80s and 90s doctrines.

 

[Meengla]

I am happy waiting. Took months for PAF to show the airstrike videos on IAF bases after Balakot. If they are holding back stuff, am certain there is a VERY good reason

The guy you are quoting is on my Ignore list as are several others since this conflict began 3-4 weeks ago. I have not read his post but I would guess this guy's post is casting doubts about Pakistan's military successes. And that wouldn't surprise me one bit because there are some Pakistanis of a certain political leaning who can never be satisfied until their Great Leader is out of prison and made the Prime Minister again. My own younger brother in Karachi said yesterday something like 'The Pakistani Army has taken a lot of losses and are not reporting the losses'. I don't communicate with my brother about politics and the current conflict anymore because that will only widen the divide.
It is very good the mods here are not allowing open political discussions as that doesn't belong to this thread, but they in their round about ways, keep sowing doubts about Pakistani Army. They are definitely in tune with the Indians!! Such cultists!

 

[Yasser76]

You are terribly mistaken. Its easy to imagine things while sitting in Pakistan, rest of the world operates at different pace and narrative shaping is not for slow movers. Our boomers are stuck in 80s and 90s doctrines.

Yes, but you dont give evidence that can compromise capabilities or make life difficult for allies, that is not narrative building, that is shooting yourself in the foot. PR wise ISPR did a great vis a vis Indian counterparts

 

[Maarkhoor]

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[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

This video by Ate shows some significant damage from their Brahmos strikes, and both this video and the one by Blinkov suggest it was a close call...more about mistakes by the indians rather than anything else that led to them losing so many aircraft. There is a reason why the expressions on the Pakistani pilots are quite solemn, it might not be such a cakewalk next time...the PAF and military can't be complacent, serious lessons need to be learnt and measures taken to rectify mistakes and gaps if Pakistan intends to keep its edge.

not quite, they are not mere observers. Rather, they are 'performance' observers.
Agents have quite limited vision!

 

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[Taimoor]

Yes, but you dont give evidence that can compromise capabilities or make life difficult for allies, that is not narrative building, that is shooting yourself in the foot. PR wise ISPR did a great vis a vis Indian counterparts

You have very low standards my friend if you are impressed with the powerpoint.

 

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yes, for instance, local tribal mindset and instinct to -react.

Karachi Stock Exchange attackers got gunned down in mere 10 mins with head shots, by a police force!

 

[r3alist]

Yes, but you dont give evidence that can compromise capabilities or make life difficult for allies, that is not narrative building, that is shooting yourself in the foot. PR wise ISPR did a great vis a vis Indian counterparts

In reality, I am sure that the presentations were intended to be in part psyops, in part a good amount of truth and evidence to backup things, and for sure some misdirection and tall claims just to keep some sort of ambiguity or guessing on the other side.


What, I suppose is encouraging is that, the more nuanced presentation friendly approach is something most will not be used to seeing, and we can see even from 2019 that there is a clear evolution, so this seems to be an area which has been invested in and has potential to improve more and more

 

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[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

One thing is clear from the May war between India & Pakistan: Indians would never dare question the quality of Chinese technology. Losing 6 frontline planes including 3 Rafales has seriously bruised the psyche of the Indians. Modi ordered IAF to be grounded after the first night of attacks. No one could have imagined this. The Indians are now forced to concoct so many coping stories it’s hard to keep track.

Whatever they did so for the IAF has gone down the drain. Garbage IN, garbage OUT.....

My gut feelings is they'll now try to do patch works that will aggravate the conditions further.....

 

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