Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

I hope that is the case, but the Taliban could be the Frankenstein monster we created... seems like we never learn from the mistakes of the 80s and 90s.
J10C and JF17 and even our F16 are enough to make the taliban shake in their pants. They will cave for sure if we stop their "transit trade" and squeeze them with China's support. I'm sure this is coming for them very very soon.
 
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What a telling exchange




It makes him feel good



So it must be true
 
Interesting reading the criticisms of Pakistani military, which are obviously few in the overall context. My opinion is that their field performance, optics, narratives, feedback were all excellent.

Yes, lessons must be learned in an operational sense as we simply did not have the resources to counter certain threats. Maybe we were "lucky" to a degree that many Brahmos missiles missed. Perhaps they will counter our surveillance next time so we cannot listen in to their chatter - that gave us a huge edge in A2A combat. Somehow we need to maintain that.

If I was to make a single criticism, it is the repeated effort to point out that: "we locked more jets and could have shot more down but showed restraint".

For all the praise and admiration I have directed towards our military, I'm afraid this is hands down complete garbage and self-detrimental.

We said the same thing in 2019 - perhaps, just perhaps someone in the overall meta back then did  appreciate that, and maybe it helped de-escalation efforts back then.

But to repeat that mistake in this 2025world of unchecked aggression and Trumpenomics is a huuuuge error on our part.

2 possibilities, both equally erroneous:

1. We lied about additional lock ons, simply as propaganda to spread fear in the IAF. Why lie about this? They will return and follow their escalation plan, wwhether or not we can convince them about locking 5 extra and showing "mercy".

2. We truly locked 5 extra and showed mercy. In this case, again, genuine showing of mercy to a numerically superior and aggressive enemy is ridiculous in tactical and strategic terms.

To add, clearly we DID lock and fire at some additional targets as 1 unexploded PL15 is found.

In summary, we gain NOTHING from repeating this "mercy" process here in the world we currently live in (whether it is propaganda or genuine). Next time, lock and drop. No hesitation please.
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I am puzzled by India's propaganda that the so-called unexploded PL15 is only the booster phase of the rocket, and the warhead has already exploded. In our own published book, the truly complete PL15e is like thisScreenshot_20250516_230420_Weibo.jpg
Can a missile that is 4 meters long and weighs over 400 pounds be rolled on the ground by Indians at will? The news from India has always been a mockery to the people。In addition, even the PL15E has a range clearly stated in military publications as exceeding 145 kilometers.
 
Former Indian diplomat to Burkina Faso literally just said he does not care if they are being killed by ISIS till ISIS gets nuclear weapons aimed at Pakistan.


Where are all those people who used to do self immolation lamenting that India employs better merit in her foreign policy deputations.
 
J10C and JF17 and even our F16 are enough to make the taliban shake in their pants. They will cave for sure if we stop their "transit trade" and squeeze them with China's support. I'm sure this is coming for them very very soon.
Did the Americans beat the Taliban with A10s, Apaches, Spectre gunships, F15s etc? lol :)
 
Another form of defence, is actually having a more globally integrated economy, to the extent that you have real partners, with real industry, invested within Pakistan, such that if India wants to for example attack Karachi or Lahore, it also has to consider perhaps upsetting some of its key allies

But what if India's one of current motives is to prevent Pakistan from its economic advancement by escalation? Pakistan has just started to come out of a near 'default' economy. And that brings the 1997 Anthony Hopkins movie 'The Edge' to my mind: The bear is hounding the two men and won't even let them fish so that they can eat. The guy had to kill the bear.
Indians rightly see Pakistan's economic recovery as a threat in itself.
 
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We need to stop this political circus going in country right now and start plugging the loopholes in our defences.

Also, we need to make sure that there will be no dithering and reluctance next time in our counter offensive.
 
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This video is the epitome of cope.

I lost half of my neurons watching this 🤯
 
But what if India's one of current motives is to prevent Pakistan from its economic advancement by escalation? Pakistan has just started to come out of a near 'default' economy. And that brings the 1997 Anthony Hopkins movie 'The Edge' to my mind: The bear is hounding the two men and won't even let them fish so that they can eat. The guy had to kill the bear.
Indians rightly see Pakistan's economic recovery as a threat in itself.
Well the motive is for sure a constant economic strangulation, and currently they are insisting on Pakistan going back on the grey list

However, Pakistan can seemingly do the most damage to itself on the economic front, India is just twisting the knife

I feel that the reality is that the U.s condescended to India's shrill Pakistan blame for everything narrative because they wanted India to be a more effective front against China, however now that it's apparent that India will not be that America is not willing to indulge the anti pakistan narrative as much, after all why should it if that means that Pakistan goes so deep with China that America no longer has any utility to Pakistan.

Therefore, I really don't understand and infact respect Indian strategic thinking, where they actually think that they can effectively trick and con America into supporting India to be a serious bigger power, without giving anything proportionate back.
 
What do you guys think? When are they going for the next misadventure ?

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