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And this was Indians who were chicken out. I thought our side going to chicken out but our political leaders were begging it. There's no question about that, but it was miltryside the dangerous Air Force
Absolutely — this has been their consistent strategy: to target Pakistan’s key strategic and surveillance assets using proxies and covert operators. The attacks on PNS Mehran (2011) and PAF Kamra (2012) are clear examples. In both cases, high-value assets like the P-3C Orion maritime surveillance aircraft and Saab 2000 AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning and Control) systems were damaged or destroyed. These weren’t random terrorist attacks — these were clearly coordinated efforts aimed at blinding Pakistan’s eyes and ears, our most critical force multipliers.
This history explains why India and its allies have always seen AEW and EW platforms as a threat — because they shift the balance of conventional deterrence. Even now, during the recent air confrontation, they pushed their S-400 systems forward specifically to neutralize these assets, but failed. PAF’s electronic warfare and air superiority doctrine held firm. Their systems were hacked, their units at Adampur and Bhuj were rendered non-operational, and a no-fly zone of over 700km (combined land and sea) was established by PAF. That’s unprecedented.
So yes, "Active RAW operatives were and are participating in acts against Pakistan." This is not speculation — this is historical pattern and recent reality.
For the first time, our conventional deterrence has been proven, and that has expanded our nuclear threshold. This is a strategic win that few saw coming. I completely support the call to honor ACM Babar Sidhu with the rank of Marshal of the Air Force — he and the entire PAF have proven that they are no longer a supporting arm. They are now the frontline of our national defense. I think they will try again. Same Manor because they tried the jet fighters and missiles to destroy those assets. But they will use another proxy wars against these weapons. Pakistan must protect those weapons at any cost
Alhamdulillah — we witnessed this turning point in history with our own eyes.
India now so pissed that everyone is calling them equal to Pakistan. Their superiority complex is hurt. In fact it is insult to us. We are the descendant of Muslim empire, those who rule them, but we never said that we never prouded even that we ruled subcontinent for centuries.
Yes, one F-16 was lost due to fratricide but the pilot survived and was rescued . 11 Soviet aircraft were downed but in addition a number Afghan Air Force planes were downed or forced to land intact inside Pakistan. The "Abhinandan" of the era , the most famous shoot down and pilot capture was Alexander Rutskoy a top Soviet pilot and senior commander flying a Su-25. Rutskoy was shot down on. August 4, 1988. Oddly enough this incident wasn't publicized at all even though Rutskoy spent many months in captivity as a prisoner of war.PAF has a superb pilot training programme
Also additional to the above, we gave the USSR a ass beating in air combat during the Afghan war
I think it was 11-1, and the 1 was shot down by mistake by ourselves
Dear Dragon Striker!,under-states heavy 'accentuation' of the weapons used and over-estimates achievements. enough said!
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