Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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I had posted this video yesterday, which is an Indian channel and best sums up India's foreign policy quagmires and failures. Basically, Modi was a 'DeRh Hushyaar' (Too Clever By Half) who thought hugs from the American Presidents over the decades would be enough. But now Modi has absolutely undone much of the gains of the shrewd Indian diplomacy from the mid 60s through mid 2010s, thus wiping away half a century of the hard work by various Indian govts.

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No tariffs by India on the US and Trump blocking US companies like Apple from manufacturing in India for the US market. Trump is undermining India’s dream of becoming a manufacturing power like China in a real way.

This is the other fallout from this conflict, the limitations on Indian growth Trump is imposing, not out of animosity towards India but to rebuild American manufacturing.

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Btw, this comes at a time when the US will have more cards and will try to exact more concessions from India.

Immigration is being tightened in the collective west, and big tech companies are moving away from bringing in coders much less H1B coders. Modi’s options of economic growth are slowing.

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To be fair to the COAS, now it’s on to the economy. If his team can get the economy going, it will be like Deng’s famous quote, white cat or tabby cat, as long as it catches mice. This is probably how most of the public feels, despite their desire for a dignified democratic system.
 
It was actually our proxy PM frontman, Manmohan Singh, who steered us into the US orbit with his nuke deal with Dubya's USA

Manmohan and Vajpayee were leaders of stature and visionaries in contrast with Modi. And, no, they didn't 'appease' Pakistan but they were pragmatic and wanted peace. They followed the previous leaders like Indira Gandhi to make relative peace with China while also, at least since the early 90s, got closer to America. Smart strategy and worked well for India as the Indian economic growth and threat perception from China decreased.
Modi has ruined all that by unnecessarily heating the frigid mountains of the Himalayas. China had not much interest in confronting India but was provoked by Modi's 'muscular' foreign policy. Those of us who have a long presence on PDF know how the Indian members used to ridicule Pakistan's reliance on China. It is all there in the old PDF's posts pre 2016 era. But Modi changed all that.
 
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means they were already shitting their pants before their tandoori operation which they knew would fail. The guy is already shaking while talking. LOL
 
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They call him Shaheed.

Why are they using ISLAMIC terms? Oh, I forgot, centuries of Islamic domination still resonates.
 
Haath Kangan Ko Aarsi Kya, Padhey Likhey Ko Pharsi Ka

Mat Aana Muin Utha Ke, Warna Phir Muin Ki Khani Padegi - Waise Tumhe Toh Aadat Hai Beizaati Karwane Ki, Neend Nahi Aati Hai Uske Bina...
So, you are having a good sleep after getting danda up Modi's a$$ last week?
 
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No tariffs by India on the US and Trump blocking US companies like Apple from manufacturing in India for the US market. Trump is undermining India’s dream of becoming a manufacturing power like China in a real way.

This is the other fallout from this conflict, the limitations on Indian growth Trump is imposing, not out of animosity towards India but to rebuild American manufacturing.

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Move as much manufacturing to Mexico, Central America, South America and Canada as possible. That would be an American 'patriot' response, IMO. The militaristic view of the Monroe Doctrine is archaic: There needs to be a fresh look at that doctrine: The Economic Monroe Doctrine.
But its off topic here.
 
This is a chess game! after abhinundan episode! its better to Reject (we have non!) let them come up with it.

this way there is no international pressure! India would be require to approach bilaterally or via red cross. then there is no hidding!

by the way after so much hoo haa in social media. just gain some browniee points why did not india Godi Media bring the said missing person? bring it and earn a victory in information warfare? why not single proof of life? why? its in there favor? do not worry we shall say as we said we did not have any PILOT?

so win win? show the proof of life? if they haven`t i have hear there are 2 x pilots dead on there side? that under wraps as well. (Bhattinda Rafale pilot is surely dead!) a sqn ldr.

poor guy shot in a$$ while on landing pattern with gears outs (190km kill)
Agree. If the pilot ejected and was captured by Pak forced the wreckage must have fallen inside Pakistan or AJK with a .0001% chance of a very high altitude/mach speed ejection over IOJK/India which like you mention would have little to no chance of survival. RIP

I wish we would get to know how SPECTRA was spoofed. I bet frenchies are shitting bricks atm and SAGEM is cursing French gov for not letting it collaborate with Pak to build JF17 EW/Weapons suite.
 
I’ve written my article. The implications are far greater than what we are currently seeing. They conducted their test—and failed. They thought they could beat Pakistan and then prepare themselves for China. But the Americans have now realized that they couldn’t even overpower Pakistan, a much smaller country. So how will they defeat China? The implications India for this failure are already beginning to show.
 
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